I suppose not many people do farms there because of security problem as we know the the local population is only 500k n the illegal one is 3 million.
Its not safe unless u have a good security. Secondly if one can't see or observe or check the farm often then it very hard to control n the success rate is low. Its just like a business if the boss no aroun only comes once a month or once every 2 mths then susah lah go bankkrupt soon.
Thats is y lots of business not only swiftlet farm failed because the owner is always not there. U can attend to it once a mth provided is has been successful.
Lot of ppl will tell u i only attend to my farm once in 2 mths that is for farm that is already producing few kgs n .Unless u employ some to take care, provide he can be trusted. Otherwise hell sell all nest on yr bhalf.
I have met some very successful farmers who never attend to their farms n knows nothing about farming , this r those so called invester who has plenty of cash n don't know wht to do wth it. They just spend the money n let someone handle it. If there r lucky they make it but if not then they get burned. They r there to make money but totally have no interest in farming n about A.F
Like lighning , which cut of electricity/ Sound Mp3 or Cd jam/ tweeter short/ etc.
Yr farm going to be no sound , no humidifier for 2 mths how? even u have got cctv direct to internet whose going to fix it do they have the skill? Then u may need to fly there.
So conclussion not feasible unless I am from there n I JV with relative n train them to handdle it otherwise "sorry" chinese got one saying in cantonese "Ng suk Ng chou"
Correct me if I m wrong, U said yr farm in P.indah has 200 birds? That mean easily u would have closed to 50-100 nests which equevalent to almost a kg then
its consider successful. Then u shouldn't sell it away. But thru my n some sifu observation there r hardly any farm there has more than 20 birds.
So that is my humble opinion for far reached loacation
Added on June 19, 2007, 11:22 pmThat is creative putting diff tweerter. Let me know which place got more shit!
Swiftlet farming now like the Kopi Tiam business every wants to do.
Some rich some ok some morgage to do it. At the end the successful ones r the swiftlet products company n the consultant ha ha ha
My advise for new comer " make sure u learn as much as possible b4 u venture this will help u in selecting location, designing farm, using right sound, selecting appropriete products for farm,etc thus help in creating a successful farms"
Don't rush
Added on June 19, 2007, 11:37 pm85% of sound in exchange deal r Junk . If it works nobody want to exchange.
Most owner of cd doesn't know what the sound was? mating sound? chick sound? figthing sound?etc. Most don't have experience to differentiate it.Putting the wrong sound chase away the birds.
Even some cds bought from reputable consultant do not work, I am sure some of u out there agree wth me. There r only 10% workable cd in the market n the good ones r kept as tresure by those who has experiece n know how to differentiate it.
There r so many bad deal in exchange
Added on June 19, 2007, 11:56 pmThis was posted on crystalswiftlet by a new member. I think it may be good for those who want to do bird sound test.Hi swifbuild,
We are not really cash loaded. Just that my partner have a piece of land in Kuala Pilah which we thot of using it. We try to maintain to the lowest workable cost for the farm. We are evaluating to see whether it'll be more cost-economical to build a 2-3 storey wooden farm house or to convert shoplot.
We did a bird-call test at 2 locations yesterday. 1st we had it tested at Pulau Indah about 7:15am. Within 5 minutes there were about 7 birds responded. Then, we continue to monitor it and the max within the half-hour test, there were about 15 birds responded. But they were just circling in the air about 10 feet on top of my car. Never come too near. 2nd test within the vicinity (about a block of shoplots away) at about 10:30am. This time it's only 7 birds responded. Is these 2 tests considered good or no good. I surveyed the area and found that about 20 farm houses within walking distances. I am not sure whether the population of the swiftlets is enough for the 20 farms. Do you think it's a good location to consider to convert the shoplot to a farm?
Another tests we did at a kg. in Kuala Pilah. The 1st test was at 2:30pm. Waited for 1 hour only can see 3 birds responded but circling in the air about 20 feet or more above my car. 1 of it actively responded but never came too close. The other 2 was circling for awhile and left. The 2nd test was at about 4:15pm. Within 5 min, 1 bird responded. This bird came very close to the car. As low as the height of my tyres. We were sitted at the bushes beside the car. It almost crashed on us. In another 15 min time, another bird came but circling in the air far up for awhile only...maybe about 1-2 min and left. There are no farm house in this area yet. If we start, I believe we can be the pioneer. But is it safe to start in an untested area? Only to a max of 3 birds responded...does it consider there is a colony of swiftlets here? Do you think it's the timing issue on the test which is in the noon time where all the birds were away? I am planning to do another test at a different timing this weekend at the same spot. What time do you think is ideal for the test? Will keep you all posted.
Thanks
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For yr Info P.Indah is a disaster place. Many farms there abandoned. Most farm owner swear by it . There hardly 10 birds per farm. Most of them lost money n never recovered the investment some hundred of thousands other ten of thousands.
I bet u didn't know about it. Most veterans in this field knew.
This is one of the skills that one has to learn before investing their money. Otherwise burned like stock market " not all stock make money some cause u bankrupt". Not all farms make money some spends 1/2 million or more after 5 yrs abandoned. 85%
or more farming failed in Malaysia immaterial how much u spend n which consultant u pay.
If u choose a rural area far from town which has no farm the success rate is 50/50 .U may ended up just having 20 birds . Then predator like owl,eagle,etc. All these chase away birds that is y most farms r in town . But then again in town yr farm has to be the best of the best otherwise how can u attract yr neighbor birds.
For bird sound test the rule of thumb is that below 20 birds the plan of building farm should be discarded. Above 20 barely pass but takes long period to attract birds unless u intended to wait 5-10yrs (no guarantee) .50 above u can confidently go ahead n now its solely relied on how u designed(skill) yr farm. If yr design r not suitable again then u fall back to the 85% side ( failed).
In swiftlet farming always think of the concept of 85/15%.In all angles, 85% farms failed 15% succeeded. 85% consultant "tak boleh pakai" 15% really got the skills. 85% Cd sound r rubbish n Junk ,15% really attract birds n the list goes on.
That's y I said if u r loaded just bang n hope u r on the 15% side.
THERE R SO MUCH MORE TO LEARN b4 u INVEST!
Good luck!
Swifbuild
hi swifbuilt...i saw many bird around my farm due to one thing ...my cd perhaps...n got bird stay and i said before only 30 or less after 8 mths... bird a lot but mostly are tennager bird..hahaha!!!
yupp i have problem with security and also electrical...i solve it just last mth by putting solar energy and long run save money.
I am starting a new farm in Miri next month...hopefully this one more better, n by the way swifbuild, Pulau Indah.....place need timefor it to grow, Only for investor who can wait .....TrY good cd , that's wat i recommend, n you can see the result....
Last month everyday i drive almost 3-4 kilometer away from my farm....around 5 pm then i on my cd, loud and then when more then 30-50 bird come .....i drive back holding my tweeter on one hand and let them follow me...it works....try.
and see. It really help from...11 bird nest to 26 in one mth.
Mar 25 2007, 01:37 AM, updated 17y ago
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Ask question from them they will ask you to pay RM5K-RM10K consultation fee.
PD ones doesn't need license at the moment but still I think they are coming up soon. 
If u wan the number, I'll have to dig it up for u.
But what to do? Hire consultant more expensive. My 2nd renovation is not in the same room. It's next door room separated by a wooden partition. Can renovate siap-siap then only open up the wooden partition to make it bigger area. BTW no cement will be used in the renovation. The place is downstair cement upstair wooden old shop lot.
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If not 2-3 tweeters also good enaugh.
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