Hi every one ,

I am new here , so happy because I found a forum that every one is talking about the swift . I am ne w in swiftlet farming and heard a lot of people keep on telling that if u wish to have a succesful farm house your sound is the most important and some is telling the smell is important .

So here I would like to ask those who are experience which is important in attracting the bird ?The sound or the smell ??

Thanks seeseng,

Thanks for your quick reply . At this moment I plan to involve in this field .As for your info my relatives do involve in this field but unfortunately he failed to archive great result, so this moment I am helping him searching for help from this forum.

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Added on July 12, 2007, 3:47 pmhi seeseng ,

I read the article that you and swiftbuild and other members do cd exchanging may I know how to do this and can I take part ??

This post has been edited by kseng_99: Jul 12 2007, 03:47 PM

It had operate for a year but there is still no bird.I do purchase some cd from eka do you think is it good enough

At this moment bird is flying outside some have been going in but still not staying .

I am definately agree with that juz like chinese there are hokkien and other different type of chinese but if for A.F how sure we ar in using the sound that is suitable for each races so far as I know there are 4 kind of subspecies in AF is this true ?

IS that one kind of good sound will work for all 4 kind of subspecies in AF

Swiftlet farming is not as easy as you think any more , most of the people simply jump to this business without thinking three times because after hearing people collecting money just as simple as digging the gold and of course most of the times we heard people say once we got a pair to enter that it will be enough slowly it will increase but How slow????

In now days if you still wish going in to his business , my friend I honestly advise you to think for 5 times before going in and I have some experienced would like to shared a long . I have a friend who already in this business for almost 20 years of course he is very successful most of the times people just wish to steal his bird from his house and 8 years ago a guy who is know as a consultant and people just called him ‘Bird King’ also think like this he started to build his bird house beside my friend building and he fail to attract even one pair of bird at the beginning so modification had been done for almost 6 times he renovate his building and finally until today he only get about 100 plus nest so he goes out and tell people that he manage to get about 10kg of bird nest per month. How I now his production because my fiend worker just enter his house before coz this guy who claim him self as the ‘Bird King ’ ask my friend worker to give some idea on his bird house.

There are a lot of this story repeat and repeat most of the time people do get some bird or maybe their bird house just stop to increase after few years may be it just settle down at 100 plus nest that you will faint coz by a house for only 100 nest you are hard to ‘cari makan ‘ than if you are lucky enough than it set down at 1000 nest that I wish to congratulate you but trust me the percentage to archive this is very very low

So my friend if now days you wish to build the bird house for your children or grand child than you may go ahead but remember you must have enough money to do modification if your bird house are not successful don’t spent them once ,If not you will really suffer ,so think few times I am not here to afraid you but some times don’t simply heard people saying how good in this business but you still have to know the risk in this business. The money where you already putting in is hard for you to earn back .Think twice before going in besides if your self really have that kind of technique and knowledge about this bird , if you need other people hand so your money will be going out like water so is better don’t go for it try find other way to invest beside this field because it is now very hard for you to get a pair of bird.

Maybe go for doing the bird nest processing in Indonesia

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Added on August 28, 2008, 9:04 amOr if think that it is too far away maybe at this moment is better to keep the money at your own pocket .Coz any think seem to be to hard and too risky no matter doing bird house or oil palm plantation .So is better to keep yr money at the bank at this short moment any wait for another oppurtunity to come over compare to simply throw away the money in various kind of unprofitable business althought money minght be eat up by inflation but still better to lose the money .Keep yr money wait for other opputunity .

This post has been edited by kseng_99: Aug 28 2008, 09:04 AM

I also know quite some people also in this field , but truly this field is not the business for people to get easy money any more.

If you said about consultant. Do you really know what is the meaning of consultant ? As for my fiend who is so succesful in this field also dare not to claim him self as consultant . According to most of the bird house operator I know and from the info I get , now days in Malaysia there is really hard to get such people can claim them self as consultant

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Added on August 28, 2008, 6:22 pmBear in mind after you jump in to this business there is no more return point for you anymore let said really after you had did the renovation to yr shop house in to bird house thant finally you are unsussesful that you take some consultant to give you idea and the finally stage you fail also so are you willing to spent a sum to recover back the shop house so finally it will just become an empty shop lot which is meaningless , even worst if you build bird house at your agriculture land , So thick twice before jumping in.

If you said you jump in this field in early days and archive a great succes in now days I wish to congratulate you but the same oppurunity is 100% won't repeat for the newbie in nowdays

This post has been edited by kseng_99: Aug 28 2008, 06:22 PM

You are correct life is without easy money not sure you agree or not the bird popullation today will never beat the number of bird house which is coming up people who put their money in this field for sure have to suffer for few years working as voluteer but for now days maybe not few years maybe you have to work hard for whole life and only can seen the return during their grand child.

For consultant do you think every consultant have the requirement that can be full fill most of them in record mention about succesful bird house how many or how much building they have build but do you know the standard of succes they are using maybe succes they will said a pair of bird or maybe 10 nest for a 3-4 years bird house .And even some consultant are all bull shiting .

So in now days it is hard to ask people to go for this field anymore even go for magnum 4d you still have 1/10000 chances to win but bird house now days you need really good technique .

It is totally different for 10 years ago , so for newbie pls pls think few times before you jump to this field I am not stoping you if you really plan a return that you can obtain for another 10-15 years time but if you wish go for easy money and 3-5 years you can have good income than you better go to other field .

I can tell you one of my relatives own 6 unit of bird house , 5 of them already operate
almost 10 years and each of them can be harvesting average 700-800 pieces of nest per monthand he started the no 6 bird house 4 years ago now only maintain at 100++ nest ,various of technique had been house but still same .Luckily he is wealthy still can tahan but how about newbie . The story seem boring but need to inform the people don’t every day just said this business is how good and ask people to put in their money it will make the newbie suffer only.

You mentioned your town where is it ,I just wish to have a look, how good is there but truly I can tell even how good is your place I also won’t start my bird house now especially at this moment..

Sorry I will not be there , If U wish to talk about bird house or anything is welcome to PM me