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 V1. Swiftlet Keeping-EVERYTHING About The Industry, Techniques, Tips, Tricks, Complaints etc

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TSseeseng
post Apr 20 2008, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(hin24098 @ Apr 20 2008, 07:17 PM)
Hi all swiflet Master. thumbup.gif
I am Andy ,Newbie in swiflet farming field,My first swiflet house just open ceremony 1 month ago.the result seems look pretty good with every morning has Max 1k pair above or Min 3 to 4 hundred swiflet play around  and go into my swiflet houses depend with weather.
So SIFU,
How i can determine those swiflet are stay into my swiftlet houses are not without check with open then swiflet houses,Due to my swiflet hotel still new in order not to scare the swiflet and also produce unnessary  human smell. :stars
And then, what time swiflet will fly into the swiflet houses for stay?.
Because refer to swiflet book.,normal 6 pm to 7:30 pm.
but with what i observed ,still has lot swiflet play around when time almost 8 something.... icon_question.gif 

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Early morning bird count when they start coming out for breakfast. If lazy can you handy cam. Accuracy will be affected if some exit birds start to play re-enter to the BH.
Shit spot couting is another alternative but need to enter farm. For a month old virgin farm time 11am to 2pm is not a problem since no afternoon baby feeding. This method is sort of agak-agak only the number of birds. Small shit spot counted as 1 bird. Bigger spot like roti canai size counted as 1 pair. Going home time average 7:30pm depending on how dark the sky.
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post Apr 21 2008, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(seeseng @ Apr 20 2008, 08:33 PM)
Early morning bird count when they start coming out for breakfast. If lazy can you handy cam. Accuracy will be affected if some exit birds start to play re-enter to the BH.
Shit spot couting is another alternative but need to enter farm. For a month old virgin farm time 11am to 2pm is not a problem since no afternoon baby feeding. This method is sort of agak-agak only the number of birds. Small shit spot counted as 1 bird. Bigger spot like roti canai size counted as 1 pair.  Going home time average 7:30pm depending on how dark the sky.
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last yesterday night, time already 8 .10pm but i still can saw a group of AF still play around in small "bakau" jungle near my BH area.
So Seeseng,
those Af can i say is wild ? and how can to attract it to stay into my new BH? rclxub.gif
Refer to my Con-sultan mentiond,this kind of swiflet are very hard to attract into to you BH. is right? ohmy.gif

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TSseeseng
post Apr 21 2008, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(hin24098 @ Apr 21 2008, 10:08 AM)
last yesterday night, time already 8 .10pm but i still can saw a group of AF still play around in small "bakau" jungle near my BH area.
So Seeseng,
those Af can i say is wild ? and how can to attract it to stay into my new BH? rclxub.gif
Refer to my Con-sultan mentiond,this kind of swiflet are very hard to attract into to you BH. is right? ohmy.gif
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Time is not a problem there will still be swiftlet activities if the sky still bright. If it's already total dark I doubt those are AF in activities. There are 3 species of swiftlet that will respond to external chirp sound playing. All AF stay in BH and caves all consider wild. No AF residence on trees lah unless those lost or late come home can't find way home one.

Those already built nests in other BH will not likely migrate to yours unless disaster happen the the existing BH. Your BH can only attract new young birds. Lonely birds and couple birds that haven't built their first nest yet. If that group confirm AF and can try to lure the young birds from there. Did your Con-sultan mention why it's hard to attract those birds? Must confirm they're AF or not lah if not waste time only. Observe their activities what are they doing there. Selling umbrellas on rainy days will be good business.
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post Apr 21 2008, 12:15 PM

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Hi guys. I'm new to this topic and still learning. I'm interested about this business but in my opinion it's risky and involves a lot of money. I just want to know whether it is suitable to build a bird house on my land which is at Sungai Merab (Border of Putrajaya). I'm currently planting gaharu and would like to look for another business/agriculture project. Check out my gaharu thread smile.gif.
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post Apr 23 2008, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(amirbashah @ Apr 21 2008, 12:15 PM)
Hi guys. I'm new to this topic and still learning. I'm interested about this business but in my opinion it's risky and involves a lot of money. I just want to know whether it is suitable to build a bird house on my land which is at Sungai Merab (Border of Putrajaya). I'm currently planting gaharu and would like to look for another business/agriculture project. Check out my gaharu thread smile.gif.
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To determine your land is suitable for swiftlet farming you will need to conduct a few bird call tests and count the number of birds that got attracted when bird calling. Are there any swiftlet activities around the land? Any pass by your land at 6:30pm to 7:30pm?
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post Apr 23 2008, 06:48 PM

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but bear in mind that the bird call test jt is a indication of hat place hav AF.........
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post Apr 25 2008, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(seeseng @ Apr 23 2008, 05:27 PM)
To determine your land is suitable for swiftlet farming you will need to conduct a few bird call tests and count the number of birds that got attracted when bird calling. Are there any swiftlet activities around the land? Any pass by your land at 6:30pm to 7:30pm?
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I think so. During that time, when I was on my way to my land I could see a lot of birds flying around near the electric generator. I think around thousands. I don't know whether it's swiflet or something else. But that place is a few kilometres from my land.

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Dyong
post Apr 25 2008, 05:34 PM

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Is it true that Birdnest Processing involves bleaching of nest to crystal White/ Cream?
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post Apr 25 2008, 07:48 PM

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if u knw the technique of processing, it wont involve the bleaching agent. For experince buyer, they knw whether thw nest is involve the bleaching agent.
,ormally if u want to buy the nest n u not really experince u can visit they factory n u will find out any bleaching agent in use.
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post Apr 26 2008, 10:06 AM

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i have never seen a (real) black colour nest. is it true that there are black colour nest ? all my nest are cream and white colour..
got an email from someone showing a black colour nest and showing how they bleach the nest ... I think the email is a fake one..

who want's to have a look can email me..


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post Apr 26 2008, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(seeseng @ Dec 1 2007, 12:27 PM)
The one I'm selling has a 3m sensor cable so the sensor can be nailed up on nesting plank for most accurate result. Auto power-on after power failure. So far no complaint from owners. A few positive feedbacks. They said no more soaky wet floor like wet market.
For sure this is more expensive than timer controlled. On rainy days and very dry weather timer will give you over humid and under humid. These are the specs of the hygrostat / humidistat / humidity controller:

1:Operating Voltage:AC220V/50Hz ±10%(be narrated when order)
2:Consume power: <3VA
3:Load current: 2A(max 10A resistance load)
4:Relay contact dot max current:10A/220VAC(resistance load)
5:Set range: 10%RH---95%RH
6:Measure range : 2%RH--99%RH
7:Precision: +/- 3%
8:Measure range: 0--80℃
9:Sensor application range: 0~80℃
10: Sensor wire length : 3 m
11: Application range: <95%RH(non dew)
12: Storage range: 0--70℃
13: Storage range: <95%RH(non dew)
14: Dimension: 135X68X45mm
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Hello SeeSeng,My name is Sam and new here.I am interested to buy your hygrostat,please advise price and stock availability.cheers
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post Apr 26 2008, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(cheewooi79 @ Apr 25 2008, 07:48 PM)
if  u knw the technique of processing, it wont involve the bleaching agent. For experince buyer, they knw whether thw nest is involve the bleaching agent.
,ormally if u want to buy the nest n u not really experince u can visit they factory n u will find out any bleaching agent in use.
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doh.gif yawn.gif shocking.gif <<eye rolls>>
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post Apr 27 2008, 02:32 PM

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jongkolkhoo
the nest u saw is "mao yan" which is produces by a. maximus. becos of the feather nearby the leg, every time the bird doing nest, the feather wil stick to the nest.

Normally ths type of nest need bleaching agent to clean. So try not to consume
swifbuild
post Apr 27 2008, 03:21 PM

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farming is fun if you do it correctly

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post Apr 29 2008, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(seeseng @ Dec 1 2007, 12:27 PM)
The one I'm selling has a 3m sensor cable so the sensor can be nailed up on nesting plank for most accurate result. Auto power-on after power failure. So far no complaint from owners. A few positive feedbacks. They said no more soaky wet floor like wet market.
For sure this is more expensive than timer controlled. On rainy days and very dry weather timer will give you over humid and under humid. These are the specs of the hygrostat / humidistat / humidity controller:

1:Operating Voltage:AC220V/50Hz ±10%(be narrated when order)
2:Consume power: <3VA
3:Load current: 2A(max 10A resistance load)
4:Relay contact dot max current:10A/220VAC(resistance load)
5:Set range: 10%RH---95%RH
6:Measure range : 2%RH--99%RH
7:Precision: +/- 3%
8:Measure range: 0--80℃
9:Sensor application range: 0~80℃
10: Sensor wire length : 3 m
11: Application range: <95%RH(non dew)
12: Storage range: 0--70℃
13: Storage range: <95%RH(non dew)
14: Dimension: 135X68X45mm
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Dear SeeSeng,
I banked in the $$ yesterday already.Please acknowledge when recieved.


Cheers
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post Apr 29 2008, 09:24 AM

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currently i have a 2 ekar land which is commercial land. but there isn't anyone interest on my land,mayb it is too far or wat. opposite my land,there is 1 guy also have a swiftling farm? it is good for me to build 1 more opposite him? if yes, can know how much is the constuctation fee for the cost of the building and all the equipment? cos i plan to propose this to my father. thank you very much.
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post Apr 29 2008, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(GameMonster @ Apr 29 2008, 09:24 AM)
currently i have a 2 ekar land which is commercial land. but there isn't anyone interest on my land,mayb it is too far or wat. opposite my land,there is 1 guy also have a swiftling farm? it is good for me to build 1 more opposite him? if yes, can  know how much is the constuctation fee for the cost of the building and all the equipment? cos i plan to propose this to my father. thank you very much.
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Construction of buildings now are very expensive ,steel price very high.According to source,a 30' x 80' four storeys plain building could cost easily 350k -400k.
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post Apr 29 2008, 11:13 AM

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DiY it is easy...

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post Apr 29 2008, 03:08 PM

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throw in 1 firework n they r gone forever
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post Apr 30 2008, 09:27 AM

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i will advise

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