BCO_SP,

I think the situation of the location of your proposed birdhouse is similar with mine. I try to overcome the lower height of the single storey BH by adopting the higher Box Type Entrance with "OPEN TOP ENTRANCE", I hope this choice of mine can work. Maybe Seeseng & other Sifu can give us their comment & opinion, tnks in advance.
As i find out earlier, more attn is advisable to put on the daily tempreture diffrence n make it a point when designing your BH.
Anyway BCO_SP, what is Tanah Lot, is it a land title?
Thnks.

So how is the sound effect?attract any bird?

Hi Logmac,

My land is in lots, with separate land titles for each lot,
unlike some areas where one title of a big piece of land held by one owner who breaks up the land into parts and
sub rents or sells lots from that particular land grant

Anyway, Logmac as per what i know, u're from Penang right...
So, as u said yr BH somehow quite similar to mine to be,
does that mean it's also a single storey wooden house on a land in PG?
So did u appoint a contractor to build yr open top entrance design?



I'm gonna try do the bird call test first at my area and see how's the response
I'd probably try my best to follow seeseng's footstep, DIY
I was actually fascinated by all his stories, read all of it
From the first step he started to renovate his shophouse

Thanks for yr reply, Logmac
Do keep in touch...

Before all the converting plans and day dreaming, you must have complete records of the site. i.e direction of the sun of different time of the day, direction of birds out for food in the morning, direction of birds flying home at 7pm to 8pm. If the area is a swiftlet central then all those no need. If no, better do them. Bird call test must be done before dreaming of house full of nests. Best time should be 9am-10am and 3:30pm to 4:30pm. Worst time is 11am to 2pm. This time frame if anybody can conduct a successful bird call is very unusual. Even in bird central this time frame birds don't want to responce to sound. DO NOT conduct bird call after 5pm. No "business" man. Yesterday myself just made a stupid mistake by conducting a bird call forgotting the time passed 5pm. Was a failure even at a good site.

So now ECER know already birdnest can boost economy,the next thing we need to pay tax,license,etc

http://www.malaysianinsider.com/mni/swiftl...cer-states.html

Hi. Seeseng
Regarding your time frame of bird call test, can we just run it just like any existing BH from +/-7:30am to pm?
How to determine the path of birds going out for foods in morning, direction of birds return if we don't know/or do not have BH at all?
What is the meaning of bird central (central of populated BH area or .....?)

Appreciates any advise

Thank U

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Added on April 3, 2008, 12:53 amHi. BCo_SP
No objection 2 yr orchard visit, however i do have 2 consult my partners consent cos it is a jv land, it is a mixed orchard land planted with durian, banana, cempedak & etc but not very well maintained, (must be very2 well prepared b4 u enter the bush!) We used a small portion of it to build a 2 storeys Bh, also a single storey house for parnets weekend/free time hangout place. Too bad at present, no income from BH which nested only 2 lah!!!! ..... Only got spendings that has to be beared by whoever is up there. If anyone on this forum has any advise or idea on how to improved performance on BH on hill or even the better use of the orchard would be much appreciated. Banyak terima kasih !!!!

This post has been edited by lyf5354: Apr 3 2008, 12:53 AM

hm.. i thought its illegal to do swiflet business at housing area coz of the noise and dirt?

if neighbour complain then authorities will come and check.

The time frames I mentioned was for swiftlet passes by and vegetation areas. Swiftlet central the time is different for the evening session. Do you have the time to wait there and observe from 7:30am to pm? No need to waste time. Time like 11am-2pm sure no bird. After 5pm bird call is waste of time. The purpose is the see how's the population activities in your area. For return home direction at 7:30pm or before dark look up in the sky. The flock of birds fly at 1 direction. Don't see any bird? Don't do it.
Bird central= Area where at 4pm you look up in the sky easily few hundreds to few thousands birds around. For sure there're many BH there.

Hi lyf5354,

Thanks for yr reply to my last Qs
I did read somewhere that if there r too many tall trees around, difficult for the swiftlets to have a clear flight path
Anyway, i don't know bout the status in yr orchard
Well, 2 bird nests is still better than none....hehe

Anyway, best of luck to improving populations to yr birdhouse

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Added on April 3, 2008, 10:57 pmHi Seeseng,

Thanks for yr last advice and suggestions regarding bird call timings etc
Will bear in mind the times when dird will not respond to the calls



This post has been edited by BCO_SP: Apr 3 2008, 10:57 PM

Hi, Seeseng & all

Thanks for advice seeseng. My BH in orchard does have bird flying path right accross. I guess u r right, after 5.00pm even we see lots of swiflets flying pass BH, but they seem deaf even if we were to hingher the volume !! Birds do come during 8.30am-10.30am, 3pm-4pm but it seems that lots of them just circle around BH during the above period of time, some will go in & out, at the end most up them will fly up-up & away.! What is the problem? Is it normal? This Bh only nested 2 after 7mths, any ways to speed up progress?

Thank u.

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Added on April 4, 2008, 9:57 amHi. BCO_SP & seeseng
Read ur massage. we have cut down all the trees around the BH & single storey house which is just next to it, so i think flight path of birds should be no problem. Maybe it could be the temperature difference within day & night from +/- 32~c - 22~c. light intensity in BH is alright also. what do u think seeseng?

This post has been edited by lyf5354: Apr 4 2008, 11:23 PM

Instead of finding way to speed up the progress why don't find out the problems that slow down the progress? How long average time a bird go in to explore the farm and come out? I suspect there's internal design problem or tweeter configuration problem. What type of entrance you're using and what size?



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Added on April 9, 2008, 7:09 pmMr Yeo, i will be in trengganu soon, i owe you one cd and one tweeter, am i rite, and seeseng, i had just call you.......plesase remove this remark immediately, all thing can be clear with one call's away. Thank you for your co-operation.

Any unsatisfied with my service, please give me a call. Thank you.

sincerely
Kelvin Heng

This post has been edited by KELVINHENG: Apr 9 2008, 07:15 PM

is there any BH in Klang ?
i stay in Klang.
kinda interested in tis farm.
4.8k/kg !!!
enuf for me already ...

hi,
KELVIN HENG

I called you last week regarding the bird flea (the small flea that is not flying) and hope you can advice on where to get the solution. you can email me (jongkolkhoo@gmail.com) or sms me at +66872825515 (thailand).

thanks..

Hi,
4.8k/kg sounds excellent, but unfortunately it is not so easy & need few years of patient as well. There are many BH in Klang.

Keep dream on lah. To get 4.8k/kg you'll at least need super size cup shape nests very white colour very less feather grade. Nests in Klang can hardly achieve that quality due to air pollution.

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This post has been edited by KELVINHENG: Apr 18 2008, 10:21 PM

Hi all swiflet Master.
I am Andy ,Newbie in swiflet farming field,My first swiflet house just open ceremony 1 month ago.the result seems look pretty good with every morning has Max 1k pair above or Min 3 to 4 hundred swiflet play around and go into my swiflet houses depend with weather.
So SIFU,
How i can determine those swiflet are stay into my swiftlet houses are not without check with open then swiflet houses,Due to my swiflet hotel still new in order not to scare the swiflet and also produce unnessary human smell. :stars
And then, what time swiflet will fly into the swiflet houses for stay?.
Because refer to swiflet book.,normal 6 pm to 7:30 pm.
but with what i observed ,still has lot swiflet play around when time almost 8 something....

Many thank
Andy

This post has been edited by hin24098: Apr 20 2008, 07:24 PM