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 V1. Swiftlet Keeping-EVERYTHING About The Industry, Techniques, Tips, Tricks, Complaints etc

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swifbuild
post Sep 19 2007, 05:20 PM

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walet.................................af.....................

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TSseeseng
post Sep 19 2007, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(swifbuild @ Sep 18 2007, 05:25 PM)
You are right! WHO NEED license! You ? ME? Ghost? Ha ha ha ha.....
License to do what? to make what? to breed what? to manufacture what? to trade what?

There are no such license in-Acted......


Added on September 18, 2007, 5:36 pm

Seeseng ,

Too many cooks spoilt the food.Now too many farms liow!  So must have the defensive strategy. Like Pak Hen said,

Hypnotic strategy only you have no other have it so you don't have to worry about yr birds
flying to next door farm. I guess u clearly understand what I said. It is your trasure that you have worked hard for you should benefit from your harvest of ripe fruits.

My fren's farm started (stand alone) hundreds of birds came .Amazing,amazing. So if you do it the right way the success  rate is high....very high one, higher than....shaking head Pills..ha..ha..ha.
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The so call license is like protection money lor. Until now which department should be incharge of collecting this type of protection money still unsure. Everybody also want to eat the cake. When farming majority own by 2nd class people the first class people wanted to make it very hard to approve lor. Gangster movies also got do lah don't want to pay protection what happen? Fuyoh those uncles in uniform from garbage collecting and street sweeping department. Visit Malaysia Year 2007 also dare to tear off(roboh) a few million riggit worth new resort hotel in front of many foreign tourists' eyes. I don't think they do it because they're daring just maybe they're not using the spongy thing inside their head lah.

Preserving endangered species also need to pay? AFAIK they already collect tax from exporting of nests.


Added on September 19, 2007, 9:36 pm
QUOTE(fox1987 @ Sep 19 2007, 03:21 PM)
Hello all, I'm new here and I would like to know more bout swiflet farm.

Erm , I was just wondering how do we know wheather is it  A.F or swallow when it is flying high in the sky ? can we differenciate them by thier flying method ?

By the way For  a new farm normally how long does it take for the birds to make thier nest in the farm . Is it possible to opperate a swiflet farm without playing the music after the farm been ocuppy by the bird?


Added on September 19, 2007, 3:26 pmBy the way can I have a look at the actual A.F picture and the maxima please. Swiftbuild I was just wondering how do you differ the High quality Bird crips sound and the low quality ones? Can I have some sample please. Sifu can you teach me pls.
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Malaysia now got a lot higher population of AF than house swift. They got different flying pattern and different chirp sound. AF is dark brown house swift is black with white collar. All can differenciate with bare eyes. Just bare eyes cannot diffrenciate AF sexes.

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post Sep 20 2007, 07:55 AM

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Is it good for building new swiftlet farm nearby some 20 over successfull farm or is it better to build in the area where only 3 farms are there.Example the distance between farm 1 and 2 between your farm is around 5-15 km and is by the river and some forest.

Beside when building a swiflet farm is it true that we must see the population of the swiflet in that particular location in order to attract lots of house swiftlet to your farm .Correct me if I am wrong


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post Sep 20 2007, 05:59 PM

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walet walet;;;;;;;;o

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TSseeseng
post Sep 21 2007, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(swifbuild @ Sep 20 2007, 05:59 PM)
wanna ask you something yr Amp that you posted, does it has a small fan attached inside. I just bought 1 it has a fan attached.
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This is 2nd unit of the same amp I bought. Just brand name different. The big round coil weight most of the whole thing. 2.2kg. Very simple inside. Lots of empty spaces. Top and bottom of the cooling fin got ventilation.

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post Sep 21 2007, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(seeseng @ Sep 21 2007, 02:21 PM)
This is 2nd unit of the same amp I bought. Just brand name different. The big round coil weight most of the whole thing. 2.2kg. Very simple inside. Lots of empty spaces. Top and bottom of the cooling fin got ventilation.
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If i am not wrong this amp is quite good big coil, four transistor and heat sink.
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post Sep 21 2007, 04:09 PM

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good amp..................................ok pls try

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post Sep 21 2007, 05:37 PM

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[good amp for good nite sleep thumbup.gif

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post Sep 21 2007, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(swifbuild @ Sep 21 2007, 05:37 PM)
This is the Amp that  has a fan attached inside. Its cooling coil has 13 fins.It looked big and thick. It uses the Block transformer and yours uses the coil type do you know what the significant differences?

I noticed yrs got fuse and do you know what are those cubes (white color)at the back of the cooling coil? Mine has 2 yrs has 4. Ya, how much you bought it for?
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Oh, the white cubes in electronic we call it power resistence, Block transformer are cheaper than toroidal transformer and another thing is because we use amp to step up the sound quality so this amps with toroidal transformer can give a good and clearer sound due to less noise produce by the toroidal transformer compare with block transformer.
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post Sep 21 2007, 09:27 PM

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The amp I bought at RM115. Pasar road sure can get cheaper lah. Both amps features the same. Inside design also very alike. Just parts used a bit different. Major different should be the transformer. Mine is toroidal and yours is laminated steel transformer. Toraidal is better for audio amp but for swiftler farming purpose both LPPL lah IMO.


The detail can read at http://sound.westhost.com/xfmr2.htm

here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformer

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swifbuild
post Sep 22 2007, 11:50 AM

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doesn't matter what amp

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post Sep 22 2007, 11:50 AM

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Next time if i go back to my hometown i should bring back my diy power amps to test the sounds whether it is enough power to drive the tweeter or not.
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post Sep 22 2007, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(swifbuild @ Sep 22 2007, 11:50 AM)
Seeseng, Kent,

Thanks for the info. I tested both, Block transfomer and toraidal as I have both. LPPL YES! no significant different. Because we are using Piezo tweeter. For most distruction sound Hum and hiss where you heard clearly on Hi-fi Audio sytem when played with Piezo tweeter all the distrotion sounds are elliminated. That is  good about Piezo . In order to have good sound the tweeter play an important role I say probrably 70%. So good tweeter is the solution like those of Motorola but price is not cheap.

The Amp in the picture weighted 3.5kg. The weight came from Tranformer. For durability i think the Block transfomer is better. Any comment?
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Ya what is the Watt of your Amp?

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post Sep 22 2007, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(swifbuild @ Sep 22 2007, 12:06 PM)
Ya what is the Watt of your Amp?
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I'm not very sure about the wattage, should be below 100w is running using ic not transistor. Will give some picture if i got the amps with me.
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post Sep 22 2007, 03:19 PM

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good amp for good price

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post Sep 24 2007, 11:11 AM

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Hi folks,

I went to visit a farm that is under construction within a padi field(agricultural land) in Penang last weekend. The consultant(sounds experience after spending almost two hours with him) who was contracted to build this for a Malay said that it is good to buy a piece of land and build your own farm to avoid competition(of course it the bird call test has to pass first). And furthermore, we do not need to apply permit for the building. For the double storey farm he is building, the total cost about $130 including everything, like 15'x30' area. I wonder if what he said is right and if there is any other potential risks, like I heard one farm in Kelantan/Terengganu(?) build under an agricultural land was asked to be demolished at the mid of construction.

Share your thoughts? rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(swifbuild @ Sep 21 2007, 04:09 PM)
How much you bought it for?


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What is the watt of your Amp?
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post Sep 24 2007, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(frank123 @ Sep 24 2007, 11:11 AM)
Hi folks,

I went to visit a farm that is under construction within a padi field(agricultural land) in Penang last weekend. The consultant(sounds experience after spending almost two hours with him) who was contracted to build this for a Malay said that it is good to buy a piece of land and build your own farm to avoid competition(of course it the bird call test has to pass first). And furthermore, we do not need to apply permit for the building. For the double storey farm he is building, the total cost about $130 including everything, like 15'x30' area. I wonder if what he said is right and if there is any other potential risks, like I heard one farm in Kelantan/Terengganu(?) build under an agricultural land was asked to be demolished at the mid of construction.

Share your thoughts? rclxub.gif

Frank
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How tall is each storey the standalone farm? Using red clay brick or sand brick? Do they plaster the walls? Standalone farms do have some competition but it's a lot less than in swiftlet central lah. If nearest farm is within 2 or 3 kilometer radious most probably that's your competitor lah. Importantly need to check the land is a swiftlet vegetation area or pass by to go to their food source. Padi field for sure is vegetation area. Low land, short plants and swampy. Swiftlets prefer this than fruit orchard with tall fruit trees. Even abandoned padi fields a lot of swiftlets cari makan there.
Any structure that build on a land is a building. Even a standalone toilet consider a building. Under the law any building need a permit. But how many farm will apply for it? They will reject it anyway. In Terengganu so far only heard 1 huge standalone farm got saman and later on a notice to demolish. But in the end these stuff can be "settled" and currently the farm is completed and in operation. In Kelantan the local government really encourage swiftlet farming. Different party government mah. In Thailand the government even subsidised swiftlet farmers by partially funding them. Here? Dream on.
I will be helping a friend build a standalone farm in a fruit orchard after the monsoon season. At least 2 and half storey including a huge dog kennel on top.
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post Sep 24 2007, 02:12 PM

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[ha haha ha......................

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post Sep 24 2007, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(swifbuild @ Sep 24 2007, 02:12 PM)
I was wondering what kind of farm that would be 15x30'? Normally 1 class citizen would do that kind of size and regreted later. What about the foundation?  You may have the best location and land but may fail miserablely if the design of the farm is not properly done.
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15'x30' is a maybe a short signted people or budget limited design. Swiftlet farming is a very long term investment. First 5 years most of the successful farms can't earn back the capital yet. My store room farm also bigger than its 1 storey lah hehe. Is the 130K including planks installed? Here got a friend's standalone 30x100. 5 and half storeys. Full cost 250k still got small change. In my opinion the 15x30 will do ok due to the good area with good chirp. But it's a waste of land.

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post Sep 24 2007, 03:57 PM

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Thinking back, may be I underestimated the size, may be slightly bigger, could be around 20'x45'; double storey, 8 foot height per storey, and another few foot height for the cement floor, sorry for the short memory. tongue.gif

But my main question is if standalone farm in an agricultural land, does need permit to build or not. He said not necessary as it is not under the city councill's control. On the other hand, there are some in other state was asked to be demolished! cry.gif

I have a choice of choosing an abandon commercial lot in ulu area vs buying an agricultural land, and build a standalone unit. Which one is a better choice? Any idea? I thought an abandon commercial unit is lower profile comparatively.

On another note, is padi field a good food source for swiftlet? The field is so wide, hardly see any swiftlet at a glance. Is a nearby pond a must for swiftlet farming location?

Frank

QUOTE(seeseng @ Sep 24 2007, 03:35 PM)
15'x30' is a maybe a short signted people or budget limited design. Swiftlet farming is a very long term investment. First 5 years most of the successful farms can't earn back the capital yet. My store room farm also bigger than its 1 storey lah hehe.  Is the 130K including planks installed? Here got a friend's standalone 30x100. 5 and half storeys. Full cost 250k still got small change.  In my opinion the 15x30 will do ok due to the good area with good chirp. But it's a waste of land.
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