Haiz, jayraptor is right. Regret buying turbo car. My car turbo not only activated at high rpm, it is also subscribtion base! I have to go Maxis to buy Maxis One Hyundai Plan and put sim card in my ECU. Every month have to pay RM188 to use the turbo. I drove out of coverage then wastegate permanently open, no turbo! WTH is this???!!!

This post has been edited by constant_weight: Jul 21 2017, 03:39 PM

Ohh yeah, agreed with fong928, I have tried both Passat 2.0 and OpGT as well. Well, i like both. But my family prefer OpGT because the passenger seat is much comfortable and bigger space than Passat. For me I not really look at the RV as long as the car feel comfortable and meet my expectation.
At this price range, quality and performance, where else can you get. Now 50/50 to buy one.

I believe rv is not the main concern for a car enthusiast / lover....good choice qq

You guys came at the right time to cheer wkc5657 up after his mythical claims got busted. Worst day of his life when owners of turbocharged engines proved him wrong. Compared to you and dares, he twisted story really fast after caught red handed. Without 2 of you here, he won't post anymore.

As for the vvti, toyota researchers done testing on timing chain vs timing belt on its first experimental vvti engine designed for the Altis 2001. The result, vvti operates better with timing chain. You can compare toyota timing chain vvti vs rival cars with timing belt operated VVT, that's why Toyota could tune higher yet getting better FC.

you want to say all cars interior smell the same?

You're mixing up wkc5657 claims and twisted my points. If you're here to support that loser, help him to post points on Korean cars against Japanese rivals. There's nothing wrong with turbo as long as the type of turbo is good, tuning is optimum and the base engine is good. In thinking of opening new thread for new Kia Rio 1.4L

Aww... The cry baby is happy after the 2 brothers of yours come cheer you up.
1) older generation 5AT lacks technology to build bigger stronger gear to match manual transmission, the auto 5th gear is smaller than its manual counterpart 4th and 5th gear. That is adding 1 smallest gear at the back. Anyone knows this metaphorically. Unless your brain cannot compute and take it literally. Like when people calling you otak kering or otak udang, you think literally where got your brain dry or prawn in brain.

2) the 50kg difference in original lancer GT 2007-2012 kerb weight 1398kg vs p1 lancer 2.0 1355kg, I have posted the specs from Malaysia and Thailand model which kept your 2 brothers quiet and more anxious to know where is it. I chose not to tell them so that my friend's original lancer GT remain precious and special since no lancer can convert into lancer gt.

The Koreans afraid that new rise Sonata will scare people away from buying car with such short lifespan. So the Koreans said it's a facelift, look interior ugly centre dash still same, this is FL. Anyone can tell the front , rear are totally different. FL normally come up with just different lights, grille, bumper at most. Not until whole front and rear unibody also different, that is not facelift but redesigned. Vios 2003 vs vios dugong, both same chassis, do you call that facelift?

My comment on turbocharger activates, you know I am referring to the wastegate valve. This is the general term used in automotive when explaining to public that mostly don't understand what is wastegate. Beginner level automotive book and technical person would use such word instead of jargon. Which is why the maxus g10 owner understood what I said, he done the test and put you to shame. So how come he knows and understand?

There is no chart that can show fixed turbocharged engine torque. Your first test vs 2nd, 3rd, 4th and so on will give you different reading especially on a car that is moving on the road. The wastegate valve opens at fixed rpm eg. Twinscroll turbocharger at 1200rpm, yes it'll open whenever reaching 1200rpm. The max torque however varies at no fixed rpm which is why turbo engine specs put 1200-4000rpm depends on situation. Any turbo engine specs chart that show flat peak torque from wastegate valve open rpm 1200-4000. If you read the chart as fixed peak torque, then you're not reading the chart correctly.

Wah u very smart ah... Clap clap clap

yo what weed you smokin'? kind to share some?

I am compelled to ignore the rest of your "lecture" to point this out.

Do you know what happens when the wastegate open?

Common man, he is the smartest guy on Earth. Why an Earth u ask such question?
He knows timing belt slips all the time that causes vvti not efficient, but u expect him do not know how a wastegate work?
U can do better than that bro

Just wanna make sure it's not a new invention ma, wastegate that open to "activate" tebo.

Who knows it's a new tebo design by him, the turbine is on the other side of the wastegate

Jadi kipas dah . Lol

Wastegate doesn't activate turbo, what were you thinking. The word waste already clear means thrash to dump excess air out. It's the valve in plenum that opens where air is drawn in by the spool on intake side. This valve opening is what people said turbo activates. Still want to help that korean fanboy?

OK so

- turbo wastegate is used to dump excess air.
- There is a valve in the plenum that opens and closes the turbo intake side, which activates/deactivates the turbo.

Got it

wkc5657 k3nnykl82 u sellman got pay attention in class anot!?



This post has been edited by dares: Jul 22 2017, 01:24 PM

Why keep twisting what I've posted? You too kiasu to accept wkc5657 failure? You guys said wanted to help Korean cars defeat Sebastian Japanese rival, so where are your contribution to spoon-feed the dying Korean sales? I'll start new thread for Kia Rio, you 3 stooges if so clever, try to post proper comments to challenge instead of irrelevant twisting others comments

I where got twist. You tell me which part I twist.

Oh.. itu macam, excess air
Oh.. so the waste gate open close is when turbo activate..

Thank you teacher Jay.. no hao bang oh

I suddenly got the the correct word popping in my mind after further reading.

You say its a statement is an absolute understatement (pun intended), the appropriate word should be a DECLARATION. And since it is incontestable, impenetrable, consistent in spirit and in word and above all known engineering laws, it rises to the level of STATUTORY DECLARATION

The level he defend it, can almost be sworn upon.

Man, we need some serious legal advice

So finally, i got it. So meaning to make layman non engineering people understand, you use falsehood as a means to metaphorically let people understand geh??!! Wah...ethics....

1) Conventional torque converter automatics derive drive ratios through combination in engaging of multiple shift element groups of compound planetary gearset. 1 additional drive gear ratio is really not a simple as +1 physical gear. It is so difficult to understand that even real transmission engineer will need a piece of paper to draw out and laydown the calculation.

This is for those that are truly curious (i know you won't read) :

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2014/12/s...ion-power-flow/

2) Proton did make inspira with lancer chasis components, but is the interior materials exactly the same as lancer? The wheels size pun tak sama....

3) I guess lexus also "lied" to the whole world on the GS :



Oh ya, 1 more thing regarding the 2003 vios and dugong vios, dugong vios has 50mm more wheelbase. Mana ada sama chassis? Can you fact check? Do you want to do this to yourself? Embarrass yourself again?

"valve in plenum that opens where air is drawn in by the spool on intake side"

Isn't this throttle butterfly??

Then throttle butterfly at intake buat apa for turbocharged car if the wastegate works like described?

Got mixed up with diverter/BOV which also nested at the intake? But this one for different purpose leh??

Unless his turbo got another separate air intake source la.....

Even the throttle butterfly valve comes after the intercooler, not before the turbo.

We misundersood liao, it'a actually a brand new engine technology patented by Prof Jay

- Has a Plenum BEFORE the turbo
- Plenum has a valve that opens and closes to the turbo
- Has a wastegate that "dumps excess air", whatever that means. Or he simple renamed "BOV" to "wastegate".

Prof Jay what is the name of this new engine ah?

Did I twist any of your words? if yes pls correct me ah

This post has been edited by dares: Jul 22 2017, 05:12 PM