Was looking for cordless power drill for some drill on tile to install curtain rails, some hanger on the door/ wall perhaps maybe some concrete or drill some mosaic / tiles . Now looking on Bosch GSB120-LI.. Does it able full fill my work easily..?

Just get the corded Bosch GSB10 RE is good enough for everything DIY at home.

Sure it will do the job. Just use tile bit for tile and masonry for wall for best result.

Talking about wall, I meant cement layer brick wall. Concrete is something different. It is not easy to drill with this impact drill. As you know concrete is mix of cement and gravel stones. If the drill bit lands on hard stone, you need more than sweat to drill through if it moves. Concrete need rotary hammer type

If you are not much into concrete but more on house wall (not beam or column), then the one you choose will be just fine. Do consider GSR 18V-50 too. More up to date brushless motor but about twice the price.

Ok noted
Actually I also considering the GSR 18V-50 as they now doing promotion with Extra battery and Bosch drill bits for RM420..
For tile drill, usually choose which mm is the best? About the wall plug wood or plastic better?

This post has been edited by shyan90's: Aug 19 2020, 11:56 AM

Plastic or wood(?) does not matter I think. I think the plug is made of jute until now plastic become common.

My plug fit nicely with 6mm concrete drill and so I have the 6mm tile bit as well.

Ok (y) Now stuck between GSB120LI, GSR18V-50 and GSB180LI XD
GSB120LI battery seems cheaper in case I want to replace in future.
GSR and GSB shares the same battery but performance dunno which is better and best for bucks XD

It is said that

Model no's - GSR means the tool is drive and drill, while GSB means its these and hammer mode. However the GSR18V-50 data mentioned about impact drilling

I'm no Bosch expert here. I know we have people well verse on Bosch, but I'd choose 18V system.

Do't need to think much. In future you would not replace, but buy additional


Let see what others said.....

Ya la..that is why GSR18V-50 has hammer mode i also feel pelik..haha..so now is battle of 12V and 18V XD

Your wall is made of concrete/AAC blocks (usually condos) or clay/sand bricks (usually older landed)

good for brick wall only, not good for concrete, you take 5-10 mins per hole security will come and check on you.

The hole need to match your screw size and wall plug size. typically 5.5mm or 6.0mm. Wood better.

Plastic one easy to pull out whilst wood one expands like a faux sleeve anchor and gives a stronger bite.

GSR = R for reversible
GSB = B for bang (impact function)

the hammer mode is weak and only for brick walls. Rotary hammer strongly recommended for concrete wall.

How to tell the difference?

Rotary hammer usually use SDS+ (slotted) drill bits.
Spec sheet will indicate impact energy in Joules.
Starts from 149 for corded no name ones, 3xx for corded stanley SHR263, around 4xx for bosch GBH180-LI or 2-24/makita HR2470/hitachi [tool only for cordless - no battery/corded]. Hitachi one only rm345 hitachi rotary hammer

Impact drill/"drill w/hammer mode" stuff usually much cheaper (from 40 to 300 bucks) and use round shank bits. Spec sheet will say many tens of thousands of bpm (beats per minute).
18V tools are more useful coz more powerful, but if you're only using the drill driver for LIGHT DUTY wood/metal/small wall plug on brick walls, you can consider 12V coz its lighter.

Can also consider getting one corded rotary hammer [value for money powerful for concrete] + one cordless drill driver [for use as cordless screwdriver].

This post has been edited by ceo684: Aug 19 2020, 04:25 PM

The wall I not sure is made of concrete/AAC blocks... How to tell the differences?
The Looking for cordless cause easy to bring here there.. I mainly use to drill some hole for TV bracket, cloth hanger behind to door and maybe in some tiles to install some toilet cabinet.
Just worry that GSB120LI able to do this work but take alot effort...GSB180LI for sure better choice and around 100 extra compare with GSB120LI..

I think I would agree on ceo684's suggestion to get 1 corded RH + 1 cordless drill driver. I bought a 720W impact previously and was drilling holes fairly easily until I met with concrete. The elbow greese you need to put into it I tell you, will make you tired with just 2 holes. Somemore if you want to drill at hard to reach places like curtain rails. I think with the above configuration you can get both for < RM700 for a Stanley.

**Btw any pros can comment for Stanley?

https://www.12rent.my/cat-power-tools.cfm

First note: I'm no pro

I have mixed brand like Makita, Bosch, Dewalt, Stanley and Black and Decker The good thing about Stanley is that it has 2 year warranty. Even Bosch is only 1 year for most if not all (no idea)

Stanley not started as power tool company by the way. When merged with Black and Decker who also owned Dewalt, the name is no more cheap> So now warranty is like this:

Black and Decker -- 1 year (DIY)
Stanley -- 2 year (Serious DIY)
Dewalt -- 3 year (Pro)

Stanley brand is so good that many other companies pay to use Stanley name. So many tools or equipment are not even made by Stanley but still have to follow Stanley standard. For example the pressure water cleaner. Stanley pressure water is actually made by AR Blue Clean (Italian company if not mistaken). It has 2 year warranty but if you buy AR Blue Clean brand, the warranty is only 1 year

Most wall is red clay brick, cement brick or AAC block. If you share wall with neighbor, special brick is used that withstands higher temperature.

AAC block (though called concrete) is not a load bearing material. It is even softer than normal brick. You can even screw direct on it. Concrete is normally the beam and column of the house.

I'd go with the 18V which has more power. Since it is multi purpose and can be used as driver, being battery operated is something handy. If you need a rotary hammer in future a cheaper corded model is suffice since it is more occasionally used (unless you become pro)

Ok If that is the case I might just buy GSB120LI for normal drill (Wall,Brick and etc definitely not fan hock and etc.) and corded rotary hammer for serious drill!!
Thanks bro!

Just to share my recent experience of using Bosch GSB 120 Li Gen2 cordless drill. I had just finished a project which is build by using Balau timber. I had a hard time drilling pocket hole, screwing pocket hole screws and normal scews (pre-drilled hole) on these Balau timber. Can feel heat is generated fast from the drill The 1.5Ah Battery only can last around 20-25times of drilling. the holes diameter is 4mm and 10mm, with 38- 50mm deep. Guess the the 30Nm from GSB120 Li is quite not enough to handle dense hard wood. Now begin to consider to get a GDR 120 impact driver which can produce up to 100Nm. It can help to save time in switching between drill bits and screw driver bits

I never like screwing fasteners using a drill driver. The torque that your wrist experienced once the screw is tight is just tiring. But having an impact driver would spoil you tho.

Anyone can comment on Bosch's impact drivers? Online reviews tent to place it lower than its competitors (even their GDX is under performing). But not really sure these comparisons are really significant in real life applications.

Yes there are several video on performing real task and Bosch has never perform well when the top drivers trading places.

I guess the final decision is which battery system you are on, not much of which impact driver is the best

I'd say each brands performs better in one area and not doing well in others.

Hmmm I actually seldom use the drill driver more than setting 5.
90% of the time just gentle screwing at minimum setting 1 will do. It preserves the screw heads

From your description I think you need to look into impact hammer for high torque application but Bosch not really the best for impact driver. Can check out youtube reviews, those are more practical comparison.

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