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foofoosasa
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Apr 16 2019, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(GenY @ Apr 15 2019, 09:12 PM) As of today, my portfolio's "gains" have rebounded nearly 50% from the Dec 2018 lows. Still haven't reached the Jan 2018 peak, but it'll get there soon, hopefully. Do note that I use margin and warrants. But it's now getting hard to find bargains. Q for PChem today but didn't match. Some of more "respected" i3 guys like Opensys and George Kent, but both are not my cup of tea. I like China ETFs, but those listed in Bursa are illiquid. Really not sure what to buy. Any suggestions? Biggest threats are still: 1) failure to reach a deal to end US-China trade war 2) Malaysian politics can always buy foreign ETF like US and china. open with local broker to trade foreign stocks. US-China trade war I don't think will impact local market a lot. Maybe start eye some blue chips like GenM?
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SUSGenY
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Apr 16 2019, 08:33 PM
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Already own US and China ETFs in my cash a/c. Robotics and AI ETF gooding I'm shopping for my margin a/c, which is restricted to Bursa counters. Many Malaysian blue chips suffer from "political risk". I'm looking for small and medium caps. If I have a choice, will avoid local stocks altogether. QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Apr 16 2019, 12:01 PM) can always buy foreign ETF like US and china. open with local broker to trade foreign stocks. US-China trade war I don't think will impact local market a lot. Maybe start eye some blue chips like GenM? 
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djhenry91
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Apr 16 2019, 09:18 PM
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small and mid cap can la.. temporary janji bukan blue chips sudah la
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nikewee
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Apr 16 2019, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Apr 16 2019, 09:18 PM) small and mid cap can la.. temporary janji bukan blue chips sudah la dj belum masuk market lagi a? or havent update? or wait for 1600
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Krv23490
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Apr 17 2019, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(GenY @ Apr 16 2019, 08:33 PM) Already own US and China ETFs in my cash a/c. Robotics and AI ETF gooding I'm shopping for my margin a/c, which is restricted to Bursa counters. Many Malaysian blue chips suffer from "political risk". I'm looking for small and medium caps. If I have a choice, will avoid local stocks altogether. Nice! I am eyeing FIVG ETF as well. But have not really entered any niche ETFs so far
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SUSGenY
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Apr 17 2019, 06:16 PM
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Can do research on disruptive technology ETFs as well, like DTEC and ARKK QUOTE(Krv23490 @ Apr 17 2019, 12:53 PM) Nice! I am eyeing FIVG ETF as well. But have not really entered any niche ETFs so far
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djhenry91
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Apr 17 2019, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(nikewee @ Apr 16 2019, 09:28 PM) dj belum masuk market lagi a? or havent update? or wait for 1600  huh me ar...sometime fifo sometime contra sometime stuck..i duno lo..see lo..i not stock god haha
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B33Ri
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Apr 17 2019, 07:45 PM
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New Member
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KLSE sliding badly 😥😥😥
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danmooncake
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Apr 18 2019, 04:07 AM
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KLCI 1year -11.03% YTD -4.12%, almost back to 5 year low. Entire 2018 earnings - despite GDP growth, Malaysia stock market: Negative. Are we in recession?
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foofoosasa
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Apr 18 2019, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Apr 18 2019, 04:07 AM) KLCI 1year -11.03% YTD -4.12%, almost back to 5 year low. Entire 2018 earnings - despite GDP growth, Malaysia stock market: Negative. Are we in recession?  I dont have any data proof. Just feeling from business surrounding and see from klci. Unemployment going up, npl from banks go up and generally most bursa counter goes down in term of profit. So i guess technically yes hmm...
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cherroy
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Apr 18 2019, 10:09 AM
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20k VIP Club
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Apr 18 2019, 04:07 AM) KLCI 1year -11.03% YTD -4.12%, almost back to 5 year low. Entire 2018 earnings - despite GDP growth, Malaysia stock market: Negative. Are we in recession?  Recession? No. Slow down? Yes. The current down trend may provide good opportunity to accumulate for long term. Value starts to emerge. At least some stocks are reasonably price (especially some glove stocks that with high PE previously) Bank stocks yield starts become attractive etc.
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danmooncake
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Apr 18 2019, 10:11 AM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Apr 18 2019, 10:01 AM) I dont have any data proof. Just feeling from business surrounding and see from klci. Unemployment going up, npl from banks go up and generally most bursa counter goes down in term of profit. So i guess technically yes hmm... I think maybe just investors confidence low now. The new govt still on path of austerity like behavior - saying no to spending, but got little choice on some of the major projects like ECRL. Sounds as if they turn this around but if they don't do it, also lose money. BNM still keeping OPR rate same level when prices were high from two years ago. Not sure if businesses want to expand if everything is doubt. Maybe KLCI will drop to 1500 before the central bank will act.
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mmusang
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Apr 18 2019, 11:01 AM
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theedge post this. might be one of the reason for slowdown TheEdge» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
KUALA LUMPUR (April 17): Malaysia could face an outflow risk of about US$4 billion by passive funds and an additional US$2-4 billion by active funds, should FTSE Russell drop Malaysian bonds from the World Government Bond Index (WGBI), says Maybank Kim Eng.
"This means a total outflow risk of US$6-8 billion, or about RM24-33 billion by our estimates," Maybank analysts Winson Phoon and Se Tho Mun Yi wrote in a note today.
The analysts said the final decision on whether to include or exclude Malaysia from the list may come following the annual review in September 2019.
A Survey by The Edge Malaysia
"If FTSE Russell decides to remove Malaysia from the WGBI, foreign selling will likely concentrate in MGS (Malaysian Government Securities), as currently the WGBI index excludes GII (Government Investment Issue), although the GII curve will inevitably be affected if foreign selloffs weigh on the MGS curve," they said.
The analysts also noted that the risk of Malaysian bonds being excluded from the WGBI seems "more likely than not", unless fundamental changes are made to improve Malaysia's market accessibility level.
They explained that the criteria used to assess market accessibility of a country include market, macroeconomic and regulatory environment, foreign exchange (FX) market structure, bond market structure, and global settlement and custody.
"Having said that, the index provider indicated that they will continue to engage with local regulators and market participants to assess the potential changes, hence there could still be room for manoeuvre," the analysts added.
However, the analysts said jittery sentiment on MGS could stay given the uncertainty and the material impact of being excluded from the WGBI.
They noted that since March, Maybank has lowered its MGS outlook from mildly bullish to neutral as yields have reached its targets. Maybank has also retained its mildly bearish forecast for the 10-year MGS yield forecast at 3.90% by end-June 2019, given unattractive yields.
"Malaysia's exit from the WGBI is not conclusive, but active funds may offload some positions in advance. Actual removal from the index would result in additional outflows, especially from passive funds and likely further cheapening of the MGS curve," Maybank added.
On Monday, global stock market indices provider FTSE Russell placed Malaysia's market accessibility level in its World Government Bond Index under a review considering a downgrade from the current level of 2 (highest level of accessibility) to 1, due to concerns about market liquidity, at the end of the review period in September.
The downgrade may make the Malaysian local government ineligible for the index that helps with exposure to wider global investors.
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nikewee
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Apr 18 2019, 11:08 AM
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1610 and lower coming... suddenly I miss #apamalubossku
in this situation he sure will jump out and give confidence boost to every local or foreign investor...despite in big debt >.<
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danmooncake
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Apr 18 2019, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(nikewee @ Apr 18 2019, 11:08 AM) 1610 and lower coming... suddenly I miss #apamalubossku in this situation he sure will jump out and give confidence boost to every local or foreign investor...despite in big debt >.< We need to watch for more fireworks opportunity once it break 1600 and drop down like a rock. Cheap sales coming.
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nikewee
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Apr 18 2019, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Apr 18 2019, 11:27 AM) We need to watch for more fireworks opportunity once it break 1600 and drop down like a rock. Cheap sales coming.  maybank break 9.00 if break 1600 i gonna close eye close platform close lowyat, my weak hand will automatically press S S S when see my - 22% coming back
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danmooncake
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Apr 18 2019, 11:59 AM
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About a year ago, KLCI was at 1895 around this timeframe, the govt was cheering we got strong economy. Now, it's at 1610, almost at bear territory - govt says we got no money and sovereign bonds will soon be delisted from the major index. This post has been edited by danmooncake: Apr 18 2019, 01:26 PM
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foofoosasa
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Apr 18 2019, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Apr 18 2019, 11:59 AM) About a year ago, KLCI was at 1895 around this timeframe, the govt was cheering we got strong economy. Now, it's at 1610, almost at bear territory - govt says we got no money and sovereign bonds will soon be delisted from the major index.  KLCI drop 15 percent but how about other small medium cap? Some drop 30 to 50%. Our klci artificially supported by big institution. Wait more p&l announcement for coming quarter, more counter will feel pressure.
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yhtan
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Apr 18 2019, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Apr 18 2019, 04:07 AM) KLCI 1year -11.03% YTD -4.12%, almost back to 5 year low. Entire 2018 earnings - despite GDP growth, Malaysia stock market: Negative. Are we in recession?  slow down in term of growth Maybank has been hit by Hyflux case and PBBank sell down by some notable fund, i suspect could be norway pension fund who decided to restructure their portfolio and retreat from Malaysia market
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zDarkForceSz
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Apr 21 2019, 05:05 PM
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Yawnsss.... Mari share some interesting counter. Market so boring...
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