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badrang
post Jan 5 2009, 11:16 AM

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Hi all...

Im new guy here..
Just to share my planted tank update..

Tank size = 1.5ft
CO2 = DIY
Plant type = Dunno much shakehead.gif

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And some of my 1.5 red arowana and parrot pic tongue.gif

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post Jan 5 2009, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jan 4 2009, 03:35 AM)
back from yumcha, saw my SAE lying dead on the table outside the tank...

any of u guys got case where fishes alwiz jump out from the tank??... my previous casualty was rummynose tetra.... sad.gif
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SAE always jump out, but again water quality can be 1 of the reason too. once ur rummynose fish nose is not red, water quality is something wrong smile.gif

QUOTE(Pucca @ Jan 4 2009, 11:13 AM)
what soil do you use? i would like to start CRS as well smile.gif
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africana smile.gif but amazonia give a better contrast to crs.

QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Jan 4 2009, 07:10 PM)
haha .. i go search for it almost every week with the money in my pocket .. i dont want skinny2 dw .. want to find big big long long ones for my future tank ...
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heheheh really depance on luck tongue.gif i always go aqua world, once there is new wood in. we all rush over to pick 1st tongue.gif nice rock n wodd very fast kena sapu:P and normally they delived on weekday blush.gif

QUOTE(Pucca @ Jan 4 2009, 07:48 PM)
anyone want to donate some mosses for me ?
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hehhe just sent out some.. hv to wait it to grow loh

QUOTE(Angel86 @ Jan 4 2009, 09:39 PM)
Anyone joined or sent pictures of their tank for the ADA 2009 international planted tank competition?
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yes thinking of it.. see if my tank is ready that time lah

QUOTE(SilverSpoon @ Jan 5 2009, 01:30 AM)
Hi Everybody~

This is a very interesting thread.
I just want to know what type of small fish have the longest lifespan?
I heard from my friend said that keeping fish is pointless as the small fish die very fast due to their short lifespan.
Is it true?
PLease advise.

Thanks. smile.gif
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some small fish is about 1.5 yr, worth to keep or not. depance on if u r into fish smile.gif

QUOTE(badrang @ Jan 5 2009, 11:16 AM)

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the plants are glosso, fern. the other one should be type of nana?


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post Jan 5 2009, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Jan 5 2009, 01:22 PM)
some small fish is about 1.5 yr, worth to keep or not. depance on if u r into fish smile.gif
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Wow, 1.5 yr is good enough, coz my friend told me they only survive for few months only.
Anyway, any suggestion on what type of fish to keep?
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post Jan 5 2009, 03:12 PM

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ur friend keep in bare tank? or planted?
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post Jan 5 2009, 05:53 PM

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haha catacombs, you SAE don't want to be in your tank, so it suicide.
still remember last time i bought 2 otto, both of them died after 1 month, don't know why.
then now my SAE, both of them is getting bigger compare to last time i bought. luckily both of them didn't attack my other fish.
i got one CAE, it quite troublesome cause sometimes it keep kacau, like attack my clown fish.

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QUOTE(badrang @ Jan 5 2009, 12:16 PM)
And some of my 1.5 red arowana and parrot pic  tongue.gif 
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nice arowana u got there !

QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Jan 5 2009, 02:22 PM)
africana smile.gif but amazonia give a better contrast to crs.

heheheh really depance on luck tongue.gif i always go aqua world, once there is new wood in. we all rush over to pick 1st tongue.gif nice rock n wodd very fast kena sapu:P and normally they delived on weekday  blush.gif
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yeah .. i guess it right .. tongue.gif .. i wonder how much bag i will need for a 8footer .. sweat.gif sweat.gif

where is aquaworld ?

QUOTE(zoejehuty @ Jan 5 2009, 06:53 PM)
i got one CAE, it quite troublesome cause sometimes it keep kacau, like attack my clown fish.
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clown fishhhh ????? shocking.gif
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post Jan 5 2009, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Jan 5 2009, 03:12 PM)
ur friend keep in bare tank? or planted?
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He kept in bare tank only.
Does the plant actually help the fish to a longer lifespan?
Sorry, i know i'm noob rclxub.gif

Anyway, all the pictures posted here really kinda poison me into getting a planted aquarium with small fish in it. hehe...

This post has been edited by SilverSpoon: Jan 5 2009, 08:32 PM
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post Jan 6 2009, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(badrang @ Jan 5 2009, 11:16 AM)
Hi all...

Im new guy here..
Just to share my planted tank update..

Tank size = 1.5ft
CO2 = DIY
Plant type = Dunno much  shakehead.gif
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And some of my 1.5 red arowana and parrot pic  tongue.gif 

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wah... can give me some glosso??... i planning to rescape my tank with glosso after cny... i mean the melaka tank...

QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Jan 5 2009, 01:22 PM)
SAE always jump out, but again water quality can be 1 of the reason too.  once ur rummynose fish nose is not red, water quality is something wrong smile.gif
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but when i first introduce him into the tank, he seems to be fine... after an hour or so, he started feeding on the algae growing around the wood and plant...

after yumcha came back see him lying dead by the tank... cry.gif

ohya, my rummynose change color when i switch off the lights... when the lights switched on, their nose turned red and tail has clear black n white stripe... does lighting period affect water quality??... unsure.gif

QUOTE(zoejehuty @ Jan 5 2009, 05:53 PM)
haha catacombs, you SAE don't want to be in your tank, so it suicide.
still remember last time i bought 2 otto, both of them died after 1 month, don't know why.
then now my SAE, both of them is getting bigger compare to last time i bought. luckily both of them didn't attack my other fish.
i got one CAE, it quite troublesome cause sometimes it keep kacau, like attack my clown fish.
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my oto still surviving... but alwiz hide somewhere sleeping... didnt do his job well cleaning up the tank.. doh.gif
now without my SAE, i'm depending on my yamato to clean the tank... but they seem to be lazy as well... mayb they dont eat dat kinda algae....
i need my SAE back... cry.gif

QUOTE(SilverSpoon @ Jan 5 2009, 08:25 PM)
He kept in bare tank only.
Does the plant actually help the fish to a longer lifespan?
Sorry, i know i'm noob  rclxub.gif

Anyway, all the pictures posted here really kinda poison me into getting a planted aquarium with small fish in it. hehe...
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if keep in bare tank, small fish get kinda stressed coz dont have plants or bushes to hide...

join our planted tank clan lah... cost is rather cheap, if u know how to search around and maintain it at low budget... for mine, around rm150 is sufficient for a nano size tank (16"x10"x10")...

of coz if u wanna go into moderate or expert level, need at least rm500 above for a proper external water filter, proper substrate and proper co2 supply...
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jan 6 2009, 12:31 AM)
if keep in bare tank, small fish get kinda stressed coz dont have plants or bushes to hide...

join our planted tank clan lah... cost is rather cheap, if u know how to search around and maintain it at low budget... for mine, around rm150 is sufficient for a nano size tank (16"x10"x10")...

of coz if u wanna go into moderate or expert level, need at least rm500 above for a proper external water filter, proper substrate and proper co2 supply...
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I see, so the fish get stressed when there's no plant to hide huh? Wow... interesting.
Your nano tank seem to be the perfect size (16"x10"x10"), do you mind showing us your nano tank?

Do you mean RM150 including everything? drool.gif
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jan 6 2009, 12:31 AM)
ohya, my rummynose change color when i switch off the lights... when the lights switched on, their nose turned red and tail has clear black n white stripe... does lighting period affect water quality??...  unsure.gif
my oto still surviving... but alwiz hide somewhere sleeping... didnt do his job well cleaning up the tank..  doh.gif
now without my SAE, i'm depending on my yamato to clean the tank... but they seem to be lazy as well... mayb they dont eat dat kinda algae....
i need my SAE back... cry.gif
if keep in bare tank, small fish get kinda stressed coz dont have plants or bushes to hide...
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on off light don't effect the water, but if u run co2 with ur light. the Ph will be difference. and why ur fish face white white when off light.. hahah..very simple. when u wake up u go see mirror.. ur face also white white n blur tongue.gif same as them.. hehhee..

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QUOTE(SilverSpoon @ Jan 6 2009, 01:34 PM)
I see, so the fish get stressed when there's no plant to hide huh? Wow... interesting.
Your nano tank seem to be the perfect size (16"x10"x10"), do you mind showing us your nano tank?

Do you mean RM150 including everything?  drool.gif
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my tank not really nice.... i'm jz a beginner... mayb our taikor here can show u better ones...
but normally planted tank not suitable for nano size.... parameter unstable... limited space for ur creativity.... i have no choice coz my house got no place to put bigger tank.... sad.gif

well, not exactly rm150 lah... its better to exclude plants and fish because those u constantly buy whenever ur hand is itchy... haha....

it depends on how committed are u in this... there are vr vr low budget ones which doesnt really grow very nice... and high budget professional level which will make u feel wanna be a fish.... laugh.gif

QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Jan 6 2009, 02:05 PM)
on off light don't effect the water, but if u run co2 with ur light. the Ph will  be difference.  and why ur fish face white white when off light.. hahah..very simple. when u wake up u go see mirror.. ur face also white white n blur tongue.gif same as them.. hehhee..
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like dat also can relate... sweat.gif sweat.gif

i guess its true about insufficient O2.... their color really change very fast.... about 1 minute the nose no longer red.....
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post Jan 6 2009, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jan 6 2009, 08:33 PM)
well, not exactly rm150 lah... its better to exclude plants and fish because those u constantly buy whenever ur hand is itchy... haha....

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I'm thinking of getting a nano size because i have limited space too.
Is the plant need to be bought very often?
How much does the plant cost?
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post Jan 7 2009, 12:04 AM

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How much does the ADA soil cost?

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QUOTE(SilverSpoon @ Jan 6 2009, 08:55 PM)
I'm thinking of getting a nano size because i have limited space too.
Is the plant need to be bought very often?
How much does the plant cost?
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nola... if u hand not ithcy no need to change often lor... jz do trimming when they overgrown.... local aquatic plants available in LFS cost about rm1-rm3... excluding moss, which is about rm6-rm8 per packet....

nicer imported plants should cost more than rm10 per pokok.... i not sure about this coz i grow cheap cheap local plants only.... look damn fugly now... doh.gif

QUOTE(Pucca @ Jan 7 2009, 12:04 AM)
How much does the ADA soil cost?
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depends on how much u need.... biggrin.gif

for my budget setup, i'm using 4kg of aquasoil and 1 bacterball to promote beneficial bacteria growth....

professional level also has power sand, penac A, penac P, penac W, iron, tourmaline, clear super, etc.... i see also pengsan....

moderate level with proper complete ADA soil setup for a nano tank will cost u at least rm100 above....
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hi everyone,

i'm newbie in this planted tank..started my 4 feet tank a month ago..this morning doing some test on my water parameters, here u go the result :

Ph : 6.0
Ammonia : 0
Nitrite : 0
Nitrate : 50ppm

is it normal to get such high reading on nitrate level? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(SilverSpoon @ Jan 6 2009, 08:55 PM)
I'm thinking of getting a nano size because i have limited space too.
Is the plant need to be bought very often?
How much does the plant cost?
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no need to change plants , unless u wanna rescape. but again. the plant will 'not die' only if ur tank suitable for them smile.gif
plants can be few dollor to over RM100.. depance what u want.

QUOTE(Pucca @ Jan 7 2009, 12:04 AM)
How much does the ADA soil cost?
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I canot really remember the price..tongue.gif it come with 3liter n 9 liter.. soil is chepaer, power is mor expensive.. 9L is RM100+

QUOTE(aieti81 @ Jan 7 2009, 12:53 AM)
hi everyone,

i'm newbie in this planted tank..started my 4 feet tank a month ago..this morning doing some test on my water parameters, here u go the result :

Ph : 6.0
Ammonia : 0
Nitrite : 0
Nitrate : 50ppm

is it normal to get such high reading on nitrate level?  unsure.gif
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can share ur full spec? what soil u using? or a photo of u tank?
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Jan 7 2009, 09:51 AM)
can share ur full spec? what soil u using? or a photo of u tank?
Aquarium : W4ft x D1.5ft x H1.5ft
Lighthing : 4 x 36watts, 9 hours per day
Filtration : Eheim Pro II 2026 (Substrate Pro, Ehfimech, carbon, sponge)
Substrate: Aqua Soil Malaya, Aqua Soil Africana, Power Sand, 5 ADA nutrients, bacterball.
C02 : 2 bubbles per second.
Aeration : Control timer, 13 hours during night
Water Change: Once a week 1/4
Water Temperature: 26-27 degrees Celsius.

Fauna : 2xflying fox, 2xmini puffer, 1xSAE, 2xottos, 5xneon tetra


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post Jan 7 2009, 10:20 AM

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plants? what plants u have? low -tech or stem plants?

your tank around 194Liter water, your light is only 144W, light not very enough.

dosing any fert?

anyway with ADA soil, NO2 n NO3 is normal when ur tank is still new.

the other thing is dose fert, feeding

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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Jan 7 2009, 10:20 AM)
plants? what plants u have? low -tech or stem plants?

your tank around 194Liter water, your light is only 144W, light not very enough.

dosing any fert?

anyway with ADA soil, NO2 n NO3 is normal when ur tank is still new.

the other thing is dose fert, feeding
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not very sure the exact name, i'll try to upload some photos later..glosso for the foreground for sure and some nana tight to woods..noted that my lighting is not good enough since i saw that my glosso growing upwards..how many watts shoud I upgrade?

fyi, i'm not dosing any fert for this time beings..

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for 4ft, normally at least we put 6 X 32W, basic is 1Liter water 1W of light smile.gif


ok look forward for ur tank.. woo 4ft interesting smile.gif

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