what?
you and vince jog 5mins KO liau???

i dunno, it just happened.
I play a lot of basketball during highskool.
After graduating, metabolism slowed down.
when i finally decided to start jogging, i KO after 20 mins.
Slowly build up to 90 mins. HIIT helps a lot too.

Uh huh.. yeah.. Most of the time I stop is because of my back sore..

My back sore too when i run uphill,
i tried keeping my back straight but the pain is still there.
I dunno what's wrong, but i ignore it LOL..

last time my knees used to make me give up,
but i never stopped running. And now it doesn't
hurt anymore. I'm thinking maybe bcos those
parts were weak then ?

I don't know, man.. It's like I'm stomping/landing on the ground hard enough till my back hurts..

if that's the case, get better shoes

brrrrrrr... new shows again ...

hahaha, been really lazy, haven't updated monday's workout
I'm gonna stop doing pulldowns since someone told me it won't make me big.
Start doing T Bar Rows instead.

Breakfast (9 to 10am)
- some grapes
- 300ml HL milk
- milo
- pear

Lunch (12:30pm)
- 2 serving vege + 1 serving meat/tofu

Tea- Break (3pm)
- 2 pears

preworkout (6:40pm)
- 2pc Ayamas Fried Chicken

workout (8pm)


postworkout (10pm)
- whey x2 + glucolin x2 + water
- 1 chicken wing + 1 thigh stirred fried in soy sauce + some cauli flower.
- 2 tablet of fish oil before bed

You need some serious serious serious tweaking in your diet. If in the event you want to tell me you're on a cutting phase, that diet is still atrociously insufficient.

aww... i need to get more milk.

Fine, i'll tweak my meals today.

- i'll take whey for bfast
- and i'll take milk before bed.

other than that, i really don't know what to take at 3pm if it's something protein.
and syd got me to taking no carbs for pre *runs*

darky, help me by posting YOUR typical daily intake.

No carbs for pre IF you *ahem* carb-up every.. i dont know... 3-5 days? Which pratically beats the purpose of emptying the glycogen storage and switch to fat-burning mode since you're gonna refill it before you get to burn fat.

But then, you're having grapes and pears which technically aint allowed in a low-carb diet due to high fructose content (which again, refills your liver glycogen and signals teh body 'yup we hv enough carbs here, no need to switch to fat burning mode').

Carbs for pre & cycle every 10-14 days is fine as long as you're having clean, low fat carbs which I reaaaaaaally doubt you're doing anyway

Honestly, i think i'm better off taking no carbs for pre.
and syd, are u asking me to stop taking fruits?
i only take 4 biji grapes first thing in the morning to kickstart my metabolism.
5 minutes after that i'll be hungry like a dog.

btw, where have u been, syd?
haven't seen u around lately.

This post has been edited by King83: Apr 25 2007, 09:47 AM

No carbs pre? Wtf? You're not even going for keto right? I seriously feel like showing your post to TErry again. If i can't knock sense into you, maybe a pro bodybuilder can. Cos you really made him laugh yesterday with what you posted previously.

This post has been edited by darklight79: Apr 25 2007, 09:49 AM

show me ur typical daily intake already

This post has been edited by King83: Apr 25 2007, 09:52 AM

Later bro. I'm still fukkin tired. It's my holiday and there's a goddamn renovation going on at the condo above mine with all the drilling, etc. I just woke up to pop a lean burger patty into the microwave for some protein and i'm heading back off to sleep again.

ok, thanks bro.

and thanks for stopping by...
i never take ur criticism the hard way...
it's when u stopped critisizing that'll make me worry

I think its in one of the pinned threads of what you should eat, no?

you didn't tell me you knew chris IRL.
You only mimicked what he said

I dont know about you guys but pre carbs make me sleepy. It made jones sleepy too so he yawns a lot when warming up @ teh power rack xD.

In the morning I'd rather drink milked coffee and eat some serious protein rather than fruits.

I'm not saying dont take fruits. I'm saying real low-carbers arent allowed to take fruits. It has fibre and vitamin and bla bla bla bla and that's why they have to take serious fibre supplements and multivitamin to supplement things they cant take. But if you realize, you'll eat more veges on a low carb diet. I say tonnes of veges + fibre supp + a good multivitamin beats little fruits + little veges anyday

I have been very depressed lately. Taking a break from gym but am far from resting. Told ya April is a crazy month, right?

To tell you the truth, i was pretty horrified at your diet when i peeked in here. Ok, let's say forget about the issue of carbs preworkout (which i didn't say was not important since i don't know if you're going for Keto or TKD).

The rest of your diet. You have SERIOUS protein deficit. How the hell are you going to grow? A time release protein is so important especially on workout days. And you take just 2 fish oils prebedtime? You don't want catabolism setting in while recovery is of the utmost importance during that critical period. You grow when you sleep but what happens if you don't supply the body with proper fuel for growth? You shrink, period. Ok, later. I'm off to bed.

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Added on April 25, 2007, 10:05 amThe pre and post workout nutrition thread i posted:-

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/350964

Is by alan aragorn, a very well known bb.com member. And i can assure you he is not small at all. Read it again.

This post has been edited by darklight79: Apr 25 2007, 10:05 AM

ok, the last paragraph finally knocked some sense into me