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darklight79
post Mar 22 2007, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Mar 22 2007, 07:03 PM)
fook, yesterday no form... i phailed on so many things.

Breakfast (8am - 10am)
NIL muahahahahaha

Lunch (12pm - 1pm)
mixed rice

pre workout (6:30pm)
ayamas rice + 1pc fried chicken

Workout (8pm)
Squat
some bus3rd hogging the squat rack, so i had to resort to smiths
2x10 with 20kg (warmup set)
1x10 with 40kg
2x10 with 50kg- PR!

Pendlay rows
1x10 with 20kg + oly bar
1x10 with 30kg + oly bar

2nd attempt of the same weight above, i phailed, so i proceed to..
2x6 with 30kg + oly bar

Deadlift
1x10 20kg + Oly Bar (warmup set)
3x10 40kg + Oly bar

Wednesday is shoulders + leg day
Most of this exercises require machines with plates... i dunno how heavy they are, cos they are labeled 1 to 12 etc... PT also not sure but he said maybe 2.5kg each

Machine Shoulder (Military) Press (palms facing away from body)
1x10 (5 plates)
2x10 (6 plates)

Machine Shoulder (Military) Press (palms facing each other)
2x10 (6 plates)
1x10 (7 plates)

Standing Side Lateral Raise
3x10 on a pair of 8kg dumbbells

Upright Barbell Row
all this while i've been using 20kg weights + barbell.
Yesterday i upgraded to
3x10 10kg + oly bar -
PR??

that concludes shoulders... now for legs

45Degree Leg Press
Last week i did 3x10 100kg, this week...
1x10 100kg
3x10 120kg -
massive PR!!!

Leg Extensions
3x10 (6 plates)

Lying Leg Curls
1x10 (5 plates) (warmup)
2x10 (6 plates)

last set with above weight phailed again, so
1x6 (6 plates)

Lever Calf Raise
1x10 60kg (warmup set)
3x10 90kg -
PR!
post workout (10pm)
whey + water (before leaving gym)
small rice, 1pc fried chicken + 1 scoop of bean sprouts (murni)
*note to self*
DON"T SQUAT TOMORROW (friday) !!!
you're going for gathering the next day
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Wtf? Lol... ok, your real name is Greg, that's fine. I had a double take when i saw the journal title.

Anyway Greg, no breakfast on a training day, don't even bother lifting. I'm serious. Don't really have time to totally review your workout but you need to tweak your nutrition somewhat.

You need more than just ayamas rice and one piece of chicken. If you're planing to cut and try building muscle at the same time, OR trying to build as much mass as you can while keeping fat gains to a minimum, DO NOT BE STINGY ON PRE AND POSTWORKOUT meals.

Tweak this, your whey and water post workout, make it 2 scoops of whey, add in 2 tablespoons of glucolin (dextrose). Within 1-2 hours, have your post post workout meal.

ADD IT 400ML OF HL MILK AND A SCOOP OF WHEY before you sleep. You need some form of slow digesting protein to last you throughout the night, especially on workout day or you're gonna go so catabolic you'll feel like shit the next morning.

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post Mar 23 2007, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Mar 23 2007, 09:03 AM)
what do you mean post post workout? typo?
i think you're trying to say drink 2 scoops or whey + dextrose 1-2 hours after starting my workout? ok, got it.
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Exactly what i mean. Post workout is your protein shake immediately after your workout (the dextrose and whey shake) and post post workout is your solid well balanced meal which is within 1-2 hours after your post workout meal.
Dextrose (Glucolin) is a high GI carb like, which Eldan mentioned, is needed for an insulin spike post workout which is a precursor to GH synthesis = muscle =growth = good!


Added on March 23, 2007, 3:33 pm
QUOTE(King83 @ Mar 23 2007, 12:52 PM)
are u sure to take 2 tspoons?  blink.gif
won't get diabetes ah?
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You don't take glucolin any other time. Just post workout.


Added on March 23, 2007, 3:35 pm
QUOTE(King83 @ Mar 23 2007, 12:47 PM)
i still don't understand what this meant?
bfast to kickstart metabolism only mah...
if don't eat bfast, better don't lift???  blink.gif  shakehead.gif
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Exactly what i still mean. No breakfast, no lifting on that day. Stfu and listen.

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post Mar 30 2007, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Mar 26 2007, 01:26 PM)
postworkout (10pm)
- Darklight79's secret cocktail (wheyx2 + glucolinx2 + water)

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It's not my secret cocktail. I got that from a Canadian pro bb'er.

QUOTE(greatharold @ Mar 28 2007, 10:24 PM)
This is interesting.
Do you do any running(cardio) before weight lifting?
I realise you didnt include any abs workout, why is that?

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You don't run before any heavy weight training, period because all it does it sap away at your ATP. The theory of specificity applies here, if you're warming up for a particular exercise, do a warm up set for that exercise, eg. doing bench press, warm up with bench press, doing squats, warm up with squats, etc.

QUOTE(shinobikit @ Mar 30 2007, 05:25 PM)
just my curiosity.... during get-big.... masturbation allowed?
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I MASTURBATE DAILY AND I DO NOT LOSE SIZE NOR DO MY STRENGTH GAINS SLOW DOWN.

But it doesn't mean you have to masturbate one hour before weightlifting.
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post Mar 30 2007, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(jones007 @ Mar 30 2007, 05:51 PM)
and your d*** becomes bigger and biggeer. but u have to sacrifice your body. which will u choose smile.gif
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Stfu!

*Darklight slaps jones007 around with his giant pen!s*
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post Apr 25 2007, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Apr 25 2007, 09:10 AM)
hahaha, been really lazy, haven't updated monday's workout tongue.gif
I'm gonna stop doing pulldowns since someone told me it won't make me big.
Start doing T Bar Rows instead.
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Breakfast (9 to 10am)
- some grapes
- 300ml HL milk
- milo
- pear


Where's your protein? Just milk?
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Lunch (12:30pm)
- 2 serving vege + 1 serving meat/tofu


Where's your protein? What do you mean milk or tofu? Tofu has crap protein. Screw tofu, lots of meat.
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Tea- Break (3pm)
- 2 pears


WHERE is your protein?
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preworkout (6:40pm)
- 2pc Ayamas Fried Chicken


Where are your carbs? Oats? Rice? Anything?

workout (8pm)
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postworkout (10pm)
- whey x2 + glucolin x2 + water
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- 1 chicken wing + 1 thigh stirred fried in soy sauce + some cauli flower.


You're kidding me right? Chicken wing? Do you know how much fat is in chicken wings even thoguh it's steamed? It's more than 70% skin.

QUOTE
- 2 tablet of fish oil before bed


You're still kidding me right? WHERE is your protein?? Fish oil only? Where's your milk and whey?
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You need some serious serious serious tweaking in your diet. If in the event you want to tell me you're on a cutting phase, that diet is still atrociously insufficient.
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post Apr 25 2007, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Apr 25 2007, 09:46 AM)
Honestly, i think i'm better off taking no carbs for pre.
and syd, are u asking me to stop taking fruits?
i only take 4 biji grapes first thing in the morning to kickstart my metabolism.
5 minutes after that i'll be hungry like a dog.
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No carbs pre? Wtf? You're not even going for keto right? I seriously feel like showing your post to TErry again. If i can't knock sense into you, maybe a pro bodybuilder can. Cos you really made him laugh yesterday with what you posted previously.

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post Apr 25 2007, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Apr 25 2007, 09:52 AM)
show me ur typical daily intake already  notworthy.gif
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Later bro. I'm still fukkin tired. It's my holiday and there's a goddamn renovation going on at the condo above mine with all the drilling, etc. I just woke up to pop a lean burger patty into the microwave for some protein and i'm heading back off to sleep again.
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post Apr 25 2007, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Apr 25 2007, 09:57 AM)
ok, thanks bro.

and thanks for stopping by...
i never take ur criticism the hard way...
it's when u stopped critisizing that'll make me worry
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To tell you the truth, i was pretty horrified at your diet when i peeked in here. Ok, let's say forget about the issue of carbs preworkout (which i didn't say was not important since i don't know if you're going for Keto or TKD).

The rest of your diet. You have SERIOUS protein deficit. How the hell are you going to grow? A time release protein is so important especially on workout days. And you take just 2 fish oils prebedtime? You don't want catabolism setting in while recovery is of the utmost importance during that critical period. You grow when you sleep but what happens if you don't supply the body with proper fuel for growth? You shrink, period. Ok, later. I'm off to bed.


Added on April 25, 2007, 10:05 am
QUOTE(King83 @ Apr 25 2007, 10:01 AM)
you didn't tell me you knew chris IRL.
You only mimicked what he said  vmad.gif  vmad.gif
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The pre and post workout nutrition thread i posted:-

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/350964

Is by alan aragorn, a very well known bb.com member. And i can assure you he is not small at all. Read it again.

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post Apr 30 2007, 11:46 AM

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Greg, i got your text message. Yeah, why not? Go for the 5 x 5. You seem to have a pretty solid strength foundation. What are your poundages currently in the bench, squat, deadlift and rows? Be honest here alright? Cos it's important. I'm lazy to check through your whole journal.
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post Apr 30 2007, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Apr 30 2007, 11:52 AM)
bench - 50kg (110lbs)
Deads - 110kg (220lbs)
Squats - 80kg (176lbs)
Rows - 50kg (110lbs)

all are inclusive of the bar.
I'm thinking of maxing with those weights today on the 5th set.
You think i should reduce?
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The 5 x 5 is pretty simple but you gotta read everything. Starting out on that program means you have to reduce all your poundages by a certain amount and build up from there. They have an excel template to guide you through it. I suggest you read everything on the 5 x 5 properly because most people have the tendency to fuk it up due to improper reading and then start blowing it off as an ineffective program.

And i have to tell you that Keto/TKD doesn't work when you go on the 5 x 5.
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post Apr 30 2007, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Apr 30 2007, 11:58 AM)
yeah, i read that too... but it's ok for me i guess...
i already took oats for bfast, that's not keto/TKD/CKD anymore

i read everything already, even printed in out in case i forget in the gym.
I'll have a look at the template, thanks.
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I know it's gonna be difficult on the ego cause of the program requiring you to lower the poundages, etc. Believe me i know cos i didn't like it either but it was worth it. I improved in everything except the deadlift because i was already in the advanced stage of that particular exercise.
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post Apr 30 2007, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Apr 30 2007, 12:04 PM)
u certainly proved to me poundages means jack the past few days with u.
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Huh, meaning? I'm weak? sad.gif
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post Apr 30 2007, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Apr 30 2007, 12:18 PM)
u bench more than Terry lmao  flex.gif
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He has shoulder injuries from a very bad bike accident, and just because he because he doesn't bench more than me doesn't mean he can't and it doesn't mean he couldn't when at his peak. He just found out a way to maximize growth by focusing on the movement and going for maximum contraction.

Besides, i went pretty light on the bench press yesterday.
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post Apr 30 2007, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(Syd G @ Apr 30 2007, 12:26 PM)
Auw look at two of you bonding
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I'd rather bond with you dahling. I promise you an unforgettable experience.
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Meaning? .
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QUOTE(musclemass @ Apr 30 2007, 01:00 PM)
Cannopies has a fetish for dark nipples
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You're freaking me out. sad.gif

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