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TSRalys
post Apr 29 2017, 08:07 PM, updated 9y ago

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Hi all, currently is thinking of getting a used Evo x 2008 which now cost around 130k or getting a inspira 1.8 manual and convert it is better?

A second hand inspira manual can be get around 30k now, if add in the cost of engine and awd system would it be more expensive than an used Evo? Other than that, how much exactly the 4b11t cost? If buy half cut Evo x is roughly how much? Can't seems to find any information on the Internet regarding where to get it in Malaysia.

Hopefully can get some advice from all the sifus here, thanks
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post Apr 29 2017, 08:26 PM

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4wd conversion is illegal
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post Apr 29 2017, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Apr 29 2017, 08:26 PM)
4wd conversion is illegal
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Really? As I know it's legal to convert to 4b11t but it's illegal to convert to awd, if like that then seems like more dangerous like that.. Too much power for a fwd
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post Apr 29 2017, 10:18 PM

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If you really die2 want a sport car, just buy a used Evo X. Save hassle. If you plan to convert the whole part, end result might not feel the same too.
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post Apr 29 2017, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(Ralys @ Apr 29 2017, 08:07 PM)
Hi all,  currently is thinking of getting a used Evo x 2008 which now cost around 130k or getting a inspira 1.8 manual and convert it is better?

A second hand inspira manual can be get around 30k now, if add in the cost of engine and awd system would it be more expensive than an used Evo? Other than that, how much exactly the 4b11t cost? If buy half cut Evo x is roughly how much? Can't seems to find any information on the Internet regarding where to get it in Malaysia.

Hopefully can get some advice from all the sifus here, thanks
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My opinion is if you have to ask here, just get the evo.

To get close to Evo X experience, you would need to change
1. Engine
2. Transmission(even just FWD, stock transmission no LSD.) Not sure whether transmission will fit due to additional transfer case.
3. Suspension
4. Brakes
5. Rim and tyres
6. Seats
7. Body is not really similiar, evo is wider, will have to change some body panels or additional welds and it wont be easy.
8. AYC


Installing the 4wd system will not be easy and not legal.
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post Apr 29 2017, 11:06 PM

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Any Evo X owner can share the maintenance here? Best part is where to service and maintain this legend. Coz, recon always treat as an orphan.
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post Apr 29 2017, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(N1ck @ Apr 29 2017, 10:37 PM)
My opinion is if you have to ask here, just get the evo.

To get close to Evo X experience, you would need to change
1. Engine
2. Transmission(even just FWD, stock transmission no LSD.) Not sure whether transmission will fit due to additional transfer case.
3. Suspension
4. Brakes
5. Rim and tyres
6. Seats
7. Body is not really similiar, evo is wider, will have to change some body panels or additional welds and it wont be easy.
8. AYC
Installing the 4wd system will not be easy and not legal.
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Need to relocate the battery to the boot as well. This is by design to balance the whole car.
TSRalys
post Apr 29 2017, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(strawberry.my @ Apr 29 2017, 11:06 PM)
Any Evo X owner can share the maintenance here? Best part is where to service and maintain this legend. Coz, recon always treat as an orphan.
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This is my biggest concern as well, dunno where is the right place and cost to maintain the beast. After all, it seems better just get a real Evo biggrin.gif
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post Apr 30 2017, 01:11 AM

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Its not hard to maintain the car since parts is abundant. The problem is how fat and deep is your wallet.
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post Apr 30 2017, 05:56 AM

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QUOTE(strawberry.my @ Apr 29 2017, 11:06 PM)
Any Evo X owner can share the maintenance here? Best part is where to service and maintain this legend. Coz, recon always treat as an orphan.
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just a turbocharged 4 banger..how hard it is to service. Not like its a ferrrari 355 or exotic which require engine out maintenance.. doh.gif
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post Apr 30 2017, 07:24 AM

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QUOTE(strawberry.my @ Apr 29 2017, 11:06 PM)
Any Evo X owner can share the maintenance here? Best part is where to service and maintain this legend. Coz, recon always treat as an orphan.
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IIanm evo x uses shell v power Right? Or was it Ron 97?. Iiam Pdrm do not use this car frequently since the maintenance bill is quite high.

Both costly fuel with awd as well. Maybe it is better just to get the inspira and mod esthetically?
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post Apr 30 2017, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(xemoboyx @ Apr 30 2017, 05:56 AM)
just a turbocharged 4 banger..how hard it is to service. Not like its a ferrrari 355 or exotic which require engine out maintenance..  doh.gif
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If the turbocharger and twin clutch gearbox easily to source then not an issue for me. From my experience, stock tune is the best. If you simply mod with third party replacement and push the limit, good luck. Force induction is meant saving fuel and light weight your engine bay and at the same time giving power when you need it.
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post Apr 30 2017, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(xemoboyx @ Apr 30 2017, 05:56 AM)
just a turbocharged 4 banger..how hard it is to service. Not like its a ferrrari 355 or exotic which require engine out maintenance..  doh.gif
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Indeed, engine wise not much different with normal car but maybe by shorter mileage due to turbocharger (fully synth only though). The tediuos part for evo is to service their transmission system which can be quite costly compare to normal cars. 4 item of transmission care required as follows:

1. SST GB - SSTF (rm600++)
2. Centre Diff - LSD Oil (example price for 2 liter kazz approx. rm200 - can be used for rear Diff also)
3. Rear Diff - LSD Oil
4. ACD & AYC system for Centre and Rear Diff require AYC oil or SP III (normally less then rm100)

The parts only require close to rm1000 for evo X, some reputable workshop really overcharge the labor cost. need to choose wisely.

But this transmission service require for 20k km interval or shorter and it will be cheaper in cost if you opt for manual GB evo due to much2 cheaper normal gear oil.
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post May 1 2017, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(Ralys @ Apr 29 2017, 08:07 PM)
Hi all,  currently is thinking of getting a used Evo x 2008 which now cost around 130k or getting a inspira 1.8 manual and convert it is better?

A second hand inspira manual can be get around 30k now, if add in the cost of engine and awd system would it be more expensive than an used Evo? Other than that, how much exactly the 4b11t cost? If buy half cut Evo x is roughly how much? Can't seems to find any information on the Internet regarding where to get it in Malaysia.

Hopefully can get some advice from all the sifus here, thanks
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No matter what, legal or not, a converted Inspira/Lancer will never be as good as an original Evo. So if your target is to own a true performance car, the just buy the real deal, simple and proper. Even better still, buy the Evo IX instead of the X! biggrin.gif
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post May 1 2017, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ May 1 2017, 12:39 AM)
No matter what, legal or not, a converted Inspira/Lancer will never be as good as an original Evo. So if your target is to own a true performance car, the just buy the real deal, simple and proper. Even better still, buy the Evo IX instead of the X!  biggrin.gif
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The IX is better than the X? Saw many ppl always say it's better to take other Evo than x, may I know why u say so? Is it Becoz the 4g63t has better mod potential?
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post May 1 2017, 10:59 AM

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If you are located in KL PJ, most shops in Sunway can service the car.
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post May 1 2017, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(Ralys @ May 1 2017, 10:26 AM)
The IX is better than the X?  Saw many ppl always say it's better to take other Evo than x, may I know why u say so? Is it Becoz the 4g63t has better mod potential?
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Simply because it's still lighter and faster, still the true raw Evo as it's supposed to be, a street legal rally car! 4G63T is also already a well proven over-engineered 4 cyl monster and widely regarded as still the best 4 cyl turbo engine ever made. Oh and IMHO the CT9A generation still looks way much better too, the best looking of all the Evo generation. biggrin.gif You just look at the used car prices, Evo IX is still so expensive and actually now still about the same price as the younger X which depreciates much faster.
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post May 1 2017, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ May 1 2017, 11:24 AM)
Simply because it's still lighter and faster, still the true raw Evo as it's supposed to be, a street legal rally car! 4G63T is also already a well proven over-engineered 4 cyl monster and widely regarded as still the best 4 cyl turbo engine ever made. Oh and IMHO the CT9A generation still looks way much better too, the best looking of all the Evo generation.  biggrin.gif  You just look at the used car prices, Evo IX is still so expensive and actually now still about the same price as the younger X which depreciates much faster.
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4g63, ftw.... this beast is easy (not gona say cheap) to jaga here.... and god its a fast car... from the 6.5 all the way to 9, all 4 pretty good.
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post May 1 2017, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ May 1 2017, 11:45 AM)
4g63, ftw.... this beast is easy (not gona say cheap) to jaga here.... and god its a fast car... from the 6.5 all the way to 9, all 4 pretty good.
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Yup, it's very tough engine with very strong internals, pretty solid & reliable, just need a bit of care with the HLA.
Actually starting from the IV it's already pretty damn good car touching the supercar borderline with acceleration around 5 sec flat or even a bit under and incredible handling with the AYC introduction.
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post May 5 2017, 12:18 PM

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I not sure how many years ago. My friends told me that the sales person for Inspira asked if he wants to convert his Inspira to Lancer just additional add on RM2k

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