rule of thumb is if youre unsure, it is not halal

i got friends who no issue use cooking wine cause they knew most of the alcohol evaporated

but i also got friends who die die wont use cause the ingredient isnt halal in first place

cum?

senyap sahajalah. cakap halal punya ramuan.

technically, it's non halal. since the distillation process is the same.

and you can still get drunk on it, if consume directly. taste like shit though. 😁

but as mentioned up there, some take the view that as long as it's not intoxicating... so, ymmv.

just mention first, eat or no eat up to them

bait thread

  better dont la

better dont la.. my family is a bit ultra meleis

well, all i can say is...

i prefer mirin. sweeter. 😂😂😂

or dun put wine at all in the dish

so they can't komplen

if ask why tak sedap, u said coz no wine

your family never tried tapai durian before?

funny thing really.. tapai they makan... 

mirin and even kikkoman's soy sauce has a little bit of alcohol in it, i believe.

i wan ur cum personally 

can give it or not? I like to work for it though 

no haram

i dont care... i want urs 

dont worry i'll work hard for your pleasure 

hahahaha. sempat lagi ka?

well, to get rid of any possible guilty conscience, you can try looking for substitutes, i found a blog that suggested using light apple cider instead. but can't recall it at the moment.

Cooking wine certified as non-halal. But I use it anyway in my cooking as similiar reason as yours. We do learn science at school, should be no more alcoholic substance left as it evaporated over heat.

well for u and me ok la..but ultra conservative like my family..err not soo much 

Is it permissible to eat dishes cooked with alcohol? It is well-known that alcohol evaporates with heat.
Published Date: 1998-05-26

Praise be to Allaah.

It is not permissible to eat dishes cooked with alcohol, as ALL the alcohol is not evaporated with cooking or heat. Refer to the following, quoted from the famous Mayo Clinic:

[Begin quote]

Many people believe that because alcohol is sensitive to heat, it is eliminated with cooking. However, not all the alcohol content of alcoholic drinks is removed with heat; it depends on the type and time of cooking. For instance if you add beer or wine to boiling liquid, then immediately remove it from the heat, 85 per cent of the alcohol content will remain. If you light the alcohol, as in flambé dishes, 75 per cent will remain. Even after simmering the dish for one and a half hours, it will still have 20 per cent of the original alcohol content.

It is only if you simmer the mixture for two or more hours, (as you would with a wine-based beef casserole), that as little as five to 10 per cent of the original alcohol content remains.

Narrated Abdullah ibn Umar:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said: Allah has cursed wine, its drinker, its server, its seller, its buyer, its presser, the one for whom it is pressed, the one who conveys it, and the one to whom it is conveyed.

Grade : Sahih (Al-Albani)
Reference  : Sunan Abi Dawud 3674
In-book reference  : Book 27, Hadith 6
English translation  : Book 26, Hadith 3666

lol sucks dick but asks if cooking wine is halal.

you deserve a trophy mate

The correct word is Khamar, not wine. Take it literally. It is not equivalent to Wine anyway. The only similarity are distillation process.

Cooking wine certified as non-halal. But I use it anyway in my cooking as similiar reason as yours. We do learn science at school, should be no more alcoholic substance left as it evaporated over heat.

If you do learn science than you should know after 0.5 hour cooking, about 35% of the alcohol retained, and 25% of the alcohol retained even after 1 hour cooking.

The tapai with 5% alcohol content is halal but beer which has about the same alcohol content as tapai is haram. So who's to say what makes some alcohol-containing food halal while some others haram? I stop caring and just eat and drink whatever I want.

Totally haram due to incomplete removal/reduction.

Not to mention the fact that youve bought the cooking wine in the first place, which is intoxicating by itself.

bro... cooking wine taste like shit... i used em in my cookings lot of time... i never mabuk pn

Totally haram due to incomplete removal/reduction.

Not to mention the fact that youve bought the cooking wine in the first place, which is intoxicating by itself.
Naah. Tapai is definitely haram. Rokok also should be haram.
But like youve said, it doesnt mean shit.
Ignorance is bliss. Semua sarahan yahuudi and luminadi.

Lawak.
Who drinks alcohol beverages for the taste? They all taste like shit.

JAKIM's fatwa said tapai is halal tho I can't understand the reasoning they provided.

sos: http://www.e-fatwa.gov.my/sites/default/fi...i_alkohol_0.pdf

What does "alkohol itu bukan dihasilkan dari proses pembuatan arak" means? does they refer to fermentation process or what? And somehow I feel the fatwa on alcohol they provided in here is based on their discussion, not covered anywhere in hadith or quran.

So yeah ignorance is bliss, just consume what you feel like consuming

That is what happens when lawmakers dont have science degree.
Proses buat tapai tu sama je macam buat arak.
And it doesnt matter how the alcohol was made, the effect is the same on the body if consumed, intoxication.

If its a matter of amount, then cooking with alcohol shouldnt be haram. Drinking alcohol just a bit shouldnt be haram.

Fatwa my ass.

tidak mabuk tidak haram i think
because wine is not like babi
its just chemical
some ubat/dadah also not all bikin mabuk or whatever at certain dose according to the usage

yup i always think like this...
what doesnt make u mabuk thn all good

Cooking wine certified as non-halal. But I use it anyway in my cooking as similiar reason as yours. We do learn science at school, should be no more alcoholic substance left as it evaporated over heat.

You liberals are really proud that you don't follow the rules, especially when you get pujian and respect from kafirs. Religion is just a meaningless label that shows people where to bury you when you die. Meaning of Islam is to submit. The goal is acquire Allah's acceptance, not other humans.

Perhaps you should science harder. Hydrogen bond of ethanol and water is strong, it's not that easily evaporated and removed from solution.

Do what you want TS, but just remember, stuff that can cause inebriation are haram, in small or large amount. Misleading people on stuff you give others to people is just dishonest and wrong. In developed countries you can even be sued for that.

deswai i cant brain people to say that sushi usage a little
bit wine is haram. do they think people get mabuk eating sushi or they just think that any wine at any amount even a littlr bit is haram like pig? well most malay thinking like that

Pretty sure Haram... Some might say halal bcause the heat dissipates the alcohol... But....its the fact that an ingredient that was created to make people drunk was used.
Tapai pulut, ubi,.... Natto halal.... Because even though alcohol is present... The food it self was created not to make people drunk... Unlike beer... Which people create to make themselves drunk.
Just use substitute... Vinegar ada... Kenapa nk guna wine?.... Bajet high class chef.... Ptui....

Anyway TS's thread inspired me.. I think I will open a thread later.. about my mom's dish.. she's good at making pork trotters.....

Sorry.. non-halal.. come to think about it.. me being born in the year of the pig... is probably also considered non-halal??

Mythical AND magical..???

Pretty sure Haram... Some might say halal bcause the heat dissipates the alcohol... But....its the fact that an ingredient that was created to make people drunk was used.
Tapai pulut, ubi,.... Natto halal.... Because even though alcohol is present... The food it self was created not to make people drunk... Unlike beer... Which people create to make themselves drunk.
Just use substitute... Vinegar ada... Kenapa nk guna wine?.... Bajet high class chef.... Ptui....

Can't quite appreciate all these "food must be halal" for consumption rules..

After all.. everything you eat will go through the digestive system and eventually pass out of the body as faeces or urine.. no???

I reckon it's more important to abide by the 病从口入，以形补形 type of teachings.. which is that "you are what you eat.. your health depends on your diet.."

That is what happens when lawmakers dont have science degree.
Proses buat tapai tu sama je macam buat arak.
And it doesnt matter how the alcohol was made, the effect is the same on the body if consumed, intoxication.

If its a matter of amount, then cooking with alcohol shouldnt be haram. Drinking alcohol just a bit shouldnt be haram.

Fatwa my ass.

What is soylent green? Some kinda green veges??

No time.. sorry.

Spoiler

Human flesh?? That's called cannibalism..

Just wondering.. there's vegetarianism.. cannibalism..

What -ism do Muslims like??

Pretty sure Haram... Some might say halal bcause the heat dissipates the alcohol... But....its the fact that an ingredient that was created to make people drunk was used.
Tapai pulut, ubi,.... Natto halal.... Because even though alcohol is present... The food it self was created not to make people drunk... Unlike beer... Which people create to make themselves drunk.
Just use substitute... Vinegar ada... Kenapa nk guna wine?.... Bajet high class chef.... Ptui....

Serious question, did eating tapai or drinking tapai water make people become mabuk?

So you're saying that vinegar is an acceptable substitute for wine. Can you explain your thought process that reaches for that conclusion?

Not going to comment on the tapai and stuff. Those are gray area. And you know how Islam is with gray area.

From my understanding...

Alcohol... Is halal... Arak is haram... Arak is anything created for the purpose of making people drunk. 
I read this while i was researching on the consumption of natto... Cuz i wanted to eat natto... Cuz it's basically tapai soya bean...
That phrase up there is what i found while researching...
So in conclusion....if it was created for the purpose of making people drunk... E.g. beer, wine, sake, whiskey...etc. then haram

at this point yes.. my skills are equal to some high class chef 

Wonder have u try halal wine from nz?

Already try nothing special

My feren selling that b4

I look for it later the info

Depends on your interpretation.

And whether you is sheep.

Cuka ngan arak mana sama rasa...
Chemical composition pun dah lain.

Banyak la kau niat menghalalkan cara.
Kalau dah ada ethanol, gerenti memabukkan. Banyak tak banyak je.

Serious question, did eating tapai or drinking tapai water make people become mabuk?

From my understanding...

Alcohol... Is halal... Arak is haram... Arak is anything created for the purpose of making people drunk. 
I read this while i was researching on the consumption of natto... Cuz i wanted to eat natto... Cuz it's basically tapai soya bean...
That phrase up there is what i found while researching...
So in conclusion....if it was created for the purpose of making people drunk... E.g. beer, wine, sake, whiskey...etc. then haram

Yes it would.
Most people either overestimate or underestimate their "drunk threshold".
Tapai are perceived not to be intoxicating/memabukkan because of the relatively slow absorption due to consumption with solid food (the pulut/ubi). This would also kinda limit how much one can consume (who the fuck would want to eat a pint worth of tapai?).

im no sheep my friend... 

Depends on your family interpretation.

And whether your family is sheep.

Hence ts question.
He use cooking wine, not drinking wine.

Hence ts question.
He use cooking wine, not drinking wine.

Wine....

halal wine??? aint that just sparkling juice? 

Wine....

Actually for cooking purpose...

More like ribena but without sugar or alcohol

I try it few years back so mayb i'm wrong

I check again....there is a website too

name je bang...

same like hot dog... name je hot dog but it didnt contain no dog now is it?

did u know cuka made from alcoholic liquid?

already researched bang... thats why i told u... at this point my knowledge and skills are equal to some high keras chef

Not just good for cooking.. but if cooked with certain foods (like chicken..) very good for human health also..!

Which is another word for fermentation.

Nmpk? Quality je different.... Its still wine... X research?

From my understanding...

Alcohol... Is halal... Arak is haram... Arak is anything created for the purpose of making people drunk. 
I read this while i was researching on the consumption of natto... Cuz i wanted to eat natto... Cuz it's basically tapai soya bean...
That phrase up there is what i found while researching...
So in conclusion....if it was created for the purpose of making people drunk... E.g. beer, wine, sake, whiskey...etc. then haram

funny how people who never drink alcohol can talk crap like he knows everything...

oh wait.. Google kan ada.. epic lol

You're not referring to me are you??

Cos I have taken everything from beer to port to wine.. and even hot sake..

Ada fetish makan tahi... We who dont eat crap... Talk crap about them... The crap eaters probably say the same thing..

"funny how people who never eat shit can talk crap like he knows everything..."

Ada fetish makan tahi... We who dont eat crap... Talk crap about them... The crap eaters probably say the same thing..

"funny how people who never eat shit can talk crap like he knows everything..."

Ok.. sorry for my misunderstanding...

Anyway all these halalism rules are too complicated for my comprehension..

Come to think of it.. smoking cigarettes is also haram right?? Cos it involves fire?? What about cooking..?? Also involves heat and fire.. no?? Does it mean that halalism has to eat their food RAW??

Ok.. sorry for my misunderstanding...

Anyway all these halalism rules are too complicated for my comprehension..

Come to think of it.. smoking cigarettes is also haram right?? Cos it involves fire?? What about cooking..?? Also involves heat and fire.. no?? Does it mean that halalism has to eat their food RAW??

Some Islamic scholars do argue about alcohol content and purpose of certain stuff is made, yes, hence the reason tapai is permissible to certain scholars because it's not made for the alcohol.

In real life, ethanol is everywhere, even in fruit juice. But that doesn't make them haram. But I won't go so far as saying alcohol is halal

Do these Islamic scholars even know how to teach or train young kids??