So you're saying that vinegar is an acceptable substitute for wine. Can you explain your thought process that reaches for that conclusion?

Not going to comment on the tapai and stuff. Those are gray area. And you know how Islam is with gray area.

Cuka ngan arak mana sama rasa...
Chemical composition pun dah lain.

Banyak la kau niat menghalalkan cara.
Kalau dah ada ethanol, gerenti memabukkan. Banyak tak banyak je.

Hence ts question.
He use cooking wine, not drinking wine.

name je bang...

same like hot dog... name je hot dog but it didnt contain no dog now is it?

did u know cuka made from alcoholic liquid?

already researched bang... thats why i told u... at this point my knowledge and skills are equal to some high keras chef

Which is another word for fermentation.

funny how people who never drink alcohol can talk crap like he knows everything...

oh wait.. Google kan ada.. epic lol

Some Islamic scholars do argue about alcohol content and purpose of certain stuff is made, yes, hence the reason tapai is permissible to certain scholars because it's not made for the alcohol.

In real life, ethanol is everywhere, even in fruit juice. But that doesn't make them haram. But I won't go so far as saying alcohol is halal

Wait, do you actually think you're better because you don't drink?

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<deep breath>

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hahaa x sampai hati nk pnaggil my family as sheep

no matter how "taliban" they're still family...
i can afford to turn the other cheeks cause I do not let myself to be controlled by an ancient dogma and I dont feel like I'm better than anyone ..

unlike you, the perfect specimen of humanity 

if someone reported on this thread.. i know its gonna be you. 

typical action when your pride has been damage.. must've hurt rite..

agk2 diri tu rasa hina x kena tepek kt muka oleh lesser being ?

wine/alcohol by itself is not haram. It become haram when you drink it causing you to become intoxicated.

Its the effect of the substance that makes it haram not the substance itself. People always misjudge this matter by comparing alcohol to babi/pig. Pig are considered as "unclean/najis" unlike alcohol/wine is not considered as "unclean/najis".

If alcohol is najis then those people who eat tapai = eat najis & those doctor who apply alchohol on skin before injection = apply najis on you. And also every bread with yeast will also become "najis bread" because the yeast produce alcohol & CO2 after some time in the dough causing the dough become expanded when baked.

My personal opinion about using wine/alcohol in cooking fall on the grey area because you cant estimate how much exactly alcohol still left on the food and everyone have different threshold on alcohol tolerance, some people might get drunk easier and some people dont.

So when fall under grey area then better avoid it lah.