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Is cooking wine halal?, summoning ustaz /k
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Apr 29 2017, 07:05 AM
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QUOTE(Percival II @ Apr 28 2017, 07:27 PM) Cooking wine certified as non-halal. But I use it anyway in my cooking as similiar reason as yours. We do learn science at school, should be no more alcoholic substance left as it evaporated over heat. Perhaps you should science harder. Hydrogen bond of ethanol and water is strong, it's not that easily evaporated and removed from solution. Do what you want TS, but just remember, stuff that can cause inebriation are haram, in small or large amount. Misleading people on stuff you give others to people is just dishonest and wrong. In developed countries you can even be sued for that.
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Apr 29 2017, 07:13 AM
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QUOTE(h4r8_kIlLeR @ Apr 29 2017, 12:09 AM) Pretty sure Haram... Some might say halal bcause the heat dissipates the alcohol... But....its the fact that an ingredient that was created to make people drunk was used. Tapai pulut, ubi,.... Natto halal.... Because even though alcohol is present... The food it self was created not to make people drunk... Unlike beer... Which people create to make themselves drunk. Just use substitute... Vinegar ada... Kenapa nk guna wine?.... Bajet high class chef.... Ptui.... So you're saying that vinegar is an acceptable substitute for wine. Can you explain your thought process that reaches for that conclusion? Not going to comment on the tapai and stuff. Those are gray area. And you know how Islam is with gray area.
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Apr 29 2017, 07:14 AM
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QUOTE(adeline lee @ Apr 29 2017, 12:10 AM) Anyway TS's thread inspired me.. I think I will open a thread later.. about my mom's dish.. she's good at making pork trotters..... Sorry.. non-halal.. come to think about it.. me being born in the year of the pig... is probably also considered non-halal?? I was born in the year of the dragon, so probably I'm mythical
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Apr 29 2017, 07:17 AM
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QUOTE(adeline lee @ Apr 29 2017, 12:16 AM) Mythical AND magical..??? And mostly non-existent. But here I am foruming at midnight
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Apr 29 2017, 07:25 AM
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QUOTE(adeline lee @ Apr 29 2017, 12:20 AM) Can't quite appreciate all these "food must be halal" for consumption rules.. After all.. everything you eat will go through the digestive system and eventually pass out of the body as faeces or urine.. no??? I reckon it's more important to abide by the 病从口入,以形补形 type of teachings.. which is that "you are what you eat.. your health depends on your diet.." Well, if that's what you think, then maybe you should volunteer for the first lucky few testers of Soylent Green. After all, they just pass through you body. I'm in the UK
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Apr 29 2017, 07:34 AM
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QUOTE(adeline lee @ Apr 29 2017, 12:30 AM) What is soylent green? Some kinda green veges?? Ooooh...you should definitely Google that! And watch the film!
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Apr 29 2017, 07:45 AM
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QUOTE(fabularis @ Apr 29 2017, 12:39 AM) Spoiler » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « soilent green made from human meat Ah...forgot to say no spoilers. Although, scientifically it does make a lot of sense
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Apr 29 2017, 07:47 AM
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QUOTE(adeline lee @ Apr 29 2017, 12:43 AM) Human flesh?? That's called cannibalism.. Just wondering.. there's vegetarianism.. cannibalism.. What -ism do Muslims like?? They're just...Muslims. As long as it's halal then they'll consume it
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Apr 29 2017, 08:06 AM
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QUOTE(h4r8_kIlLeR @ Apr 29 2017, 12:52 AM) From my understanding... Alcohol... Is halal... Arak is haram... Arak is anything created for the purpose of making people drunk. I read this while i was researching on the consumption of natto... Cuz i wanted to eat natto... Cuz it's basically tapai soya bean... That phrase up there is what i found while researching... So in conclusion....if it was created for the purpose of making people drunk... E.g. beer, wine, sake, whiskey...etc. then haram Some Islamic scholars do argue about alcohol content and purpose of certain stuff is made, yes, hence the reason tapai is permissible to certain scholars because it's not made for the alcohol. In real life, ethanol is everywhere, even in fruit juice. But that doesn't make them haram. But I won't go so far as saying alcohol is halal
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Apr 29 2017, 08:11 AM
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QUOTE(h4r8_kIlLeR @ Apr 29 2017, 01:06 AM) Ada fetish makan tahi... We who dont eat crap... Talk crap about them... The crap eaters probably say the same thing.. "funny how people who never eat shit can talk crap like he knows everything..." Wait, do you actually think you're better because you don't drink? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha <deep breath> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Apr 29 2017, 08:12 AM
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QUOTE(adeline lee @ Apr 29 2017, 01:10 AM) Ok.. sorry for my misunderstanding... Anyway all these halalism rules are too complicated for my comprehension.. Come to think of it.. smoking cigarettes is also haram right?? Cos it involves fire?? What about cooking..?? Also involves heat and fire.. no?? Does it mean that halalism has to eat their food RAW?? What? No. Smoking is haram because it is of no benefit and harms you
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Apr 29 2017, 08:14 AM
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QUOTE(adeline lee @ Apr 29 2017, 01:12 AM) Do these Islamic scholars even know how to teach or train young kids?? I don't know. I'm a science scholar. Just sitting here and centrifuging the ethanol out from my samples
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Apr 29 2017, 08:17 AM
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QUOTE(h4r8_kIlLeR @ Apr 29 2017, 01:14 AM) Yes! Alcohol is everywhere... So I choose to follow the scholars that said "purpose of certain stuff" Yeah, but then again, that argument stops being true when you actually get drunk from eating tapai. Just like it's haram for people getting high from legit painkillers
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Apr 29 2017, 08:20 AM
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QUOTE(h4r8_kIlLeR @ Apr 29 2017, 01:15 AM) Lawak? Sobber man > drunk man The many pitfalls of riding a high horse.
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Apr 29 2017, 08:23 AM
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QUOTE(fabularis @ Apr 29 2017, 01:16 AM) do u know where can i find sodium alginate Do you want to buy or create some? Sigma's got some good stuff
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Apr 29 2017, 08:29 AM
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QUOTE(adeline lee @ Apr 29 2017, 01:24 AM) The fact that smoking is bad for health is actually quite new "knowledge".. promoted by Western medicine.. because (the way I see it) they don't know how to help folks with lung cancer or respiratory infections and diseases.. I mean.. from my observation (as I have never really tried it before..) smoking helps with the smokers' inhalation system..... And helps their thinking and responses... AND plenty of people smoked their entire life BUT lived to a ripe old age..... I really REALLY feel that there's just too many rules for the Musl*ms in our country to lead a more relaxed life lah..... Yeah you're right. Damn this Western medicine for prolonging lifespan and eradicating diseases. It helps with inhalation system? This is new. Of my many years of research in deep lung drug delivery, tonight's the night that's going to change the direction of my research Might as well throw a spanner to this centrifuge while I'm at it
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Apr 29 2017, 08:33 AM
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QUOTE(fabularis @ Apr 29 2017, 01:25 AM) oh lord... i want only small amount. like somewhere around 100g or so I've got some of this in my lab, but I doubt you'd want to put it in your cooking. It's got arsenic, cadmium and lead in it. If you're poisoning someone, let me know then
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Apr 29 2017, 08:38 AM
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QUOTE(fabularis @ Apr 29 2017, 01:30 AM) maybe she meant smoking weed? Why would people want to put things other than air in their lungs? Can't brain it. Smoking whatever, it doesn't do your lungs any favour. That heat from burning stuff alone hurts your lungs. Try sticking your head inside a preheated oven. It doesn't feel good, does it?
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Apr 29 2017, 08:41 AM
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QUOTE(fabularis @ Apr 29 2017, 01:34 AM) need em for cooking la bro  You might want this then
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Apr 29 2017, 08:48 AM
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QUOTE(fabularis @ Apr 29 2017, 01:39 AM) smoking weed is pretty good for you... i mean it does feel good for me at least hahaha I know. I would assume that you're a fairly educated, rational man and say this: If you want to change the world, maybe you can start with you. By stop smoking, you reduce your chance of having cancer. With that, you're helping reducing worldwide lung cancer incidence, which would allow scientists to focus on other hard-to-cure diseases, which would not require me to design this difficult delivery system, which would allow me to go home early and sleep
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