as someone who used to ride a first gen z250 with splash guard...imma tell u those things r useless hahahahah

following behind someone with/without one tells me otherwise. them rocks flinging off the tyres

Senyapnyer sini.

Scared myself by watching too many tank slapper videos and ended up buying a steering damper kit meant for a gsx-s1000, gambled it hoping it would fit my Katana. Managed to get it to fit and installed it slightly different than the manufacturer had suggested in order to ease access to the key. Overall very happy with the purchase and eventhough mounting to the tank is not ideal since the tank is mounted to the chassis with rubber mounts, it's solid enough and the damper is still able to work well.

First gear full throttle is less scary when the front wheel lifts and corners on real world roads with imperfections feels more confident as the bars are less affected by the road imperfections. Overall I'd suggest installing a steering damper if you can get one for your bike especially since they're so cheap for popular bike models. I bought mine on aliexpress and purchased the brackets and damper separately in order to keep purchase price inclusive shipping below rm500 per item in order to skip on tax. Build quakity is decent and if the damper fails maybe I'll upgrade to the RCB unit or a proper Ohlins/Hyperpro model. Most importantly I got the bracket

Tank slappers are usually caused by something else

you can't use the Ohlins, it's a twin tube, but you have a point, the brackets are usually harder to come by
for your case, I'd actually prefer using a damper mounted below the triples

skip those "in between" cheapo stuff, and save up for a real deal that you'd like, but a GPR will set you back around 4k IINM

short update, so I got a Honda maxi scooter
bila mau ride?

Ohlins also comes with the holder to spherical bearing, just mount direct. And yeah tank slappers are caused by external factors, I don't want to ever find out the factors that will cause it. I see ohlins around 2k and hyperpro around 1.5k. Just need to make sure the length is correct as my clearance with the bars are pretty tight



Didn't wait for the new Kymco x modenas scooter?



This post has been edited by Nightstalker1993: Oct 23 2023, 09:32 AM

I've had quite a few headshakes, not to the extend of tank-slapping, but some argued they are the same; I just let go and the bike corrected itself, then quickly pump the front brakes back to bite. One case was too light fork oil, another was a worn front wheel bearing, then wrong compression adjuster (too soft)... I've ridden with ultra low 22psi front tyre, also never shake, but that's after some fork upgrades, so it's a different scenario already

New scooters are too pricey, so I'll cut to the chase, some also mentioned X-ADV 350 will come, before they boil it down to X-ADV 250 to suit local license

Those the proper term for it is wobble and weave I think, somewhat different with tank slappers which are violent and often triggered by external factors such as a sudden bump on the road mid corner, which our roads are full of. So far hadn't experience any wobble but yeah, I don't wanna find out.

Usually you see videos of tank slappers, at least on sport bikes and not cruisers, the bike is otherwise normal and accelerating quickly then something happens and it immediately goes to full tank slapper.

bad front tyres sometimes, especially unevenly worn ones. It will manifest itself as a wobble then get progressively worst. Half worn knobby or semi will be worst at this.

But mostly when you wheelie and land the front with your steering a bit off to one side. Those unintended wheelies happens a lot more than we would care to admit. Even my underpowered Dominar will lift its front tyres if a little too exuberant on the throttle/clutch at launch. Let alone a litre bike.

Bad front forks will also do that as well, compromising front tyre contact.


FWIW, thats a really weird way to mount a damper though.

This post has been edited by jaycee1: Oct 23 2023, 10:37 AM

I test my bikes for w&w every so often, and let go of handlebars to see if the tyre will cause and steering wobble

weave is inherent with bikes design, I've seen that video, I think it pertains to the front shocks, and weight distribution, note how shifting the riders weight prevents it from happening. sometimes it's rear tyre wear also.

I'm dealing with one of my bike, weaving at high speed when turning. Imagine leaning over while turning, the bike will 'snake' in and out of the corner.... that's not fun. I've changed the rear tyre first, and swingarm bearing next if that doesn't remedy it

wanna ask you, D400 highway fuel consumption, 120kph roughly how much?
my scoot gets 20km/L

more on sport bikes because they tend to have more weight on the front and steeper geometry. But yes, it can happen to all bikes.

As i mentioned, a tank slapper happens when you lift the front off the ground (either a wheelie or a bad bump), and then you land at a slightly off angle , the bike then corrects and try to centre the wheel (in this case, over corrects to the other side) and it oscillates.

This post has been edited by jaycee1: Oct 23 2023, 10:43 AM

at about 120 GPS constant, i would say about 21-22km/L ish. This is with full 3 panniers. 120 GPS is about 128 on the meter@6500rpm. 7000rpm on stock gearing..which would take a slight toll on FC.

Range and fuel economy on the Dominar isn't great.


I've hit nearly 30km/L pottering around kampung roads in thailand @ 60-80 though. so yeah. at speed, The dominar is not frugal.


You got a Forza?

no, much older Honda SW400GT
it's around yours... 120 high way 7k RPM gets me 20kpl, 80~90 5k RPM is much more frugal ~30+kpl

Well I installed the way it's supposed to be at first, but can't stand spending 2 minutes to put in and turn the key each time. Same goes to removing the key as well.



20km/l, some newer cars have better fc

Axia? haha

I told people the amount to pay for bikes, they say 'might as well get a car'

automatic kan?

mt09 gets does about 4.5-5L per 100km aka 22-25km/L

do you guys use the bike meter function to calculate the fuel km/l or have any other device?

sometimes I wonder how accurate is the bike calculation for km/l on each bike

i do use Fuelly app on IOS to track the fuel km/l
on my bike does not have the function for fuel km/l, so i use app to calculate it.
but on my car is almost the same calculate show on dashboard and the app calculation.

Yep.
Big bikes are not cheap to run as most people think.. I go through 2 rears and half a front a year. The bulk of the savings for me is Toll and parking. Enough to ROI my dominar in 3 rears.


I'm getting. 18km/l on a yaris at 120 constant. 20km/L at 110. Go figure

Well we have the aerodynamics of a barn door. Plus I'm running risers...so I sit almost bolt upright. Yeah..so FC isn't much to shout about. I think the big bike with the best fuel economy will be the nc750x. That bike sips fuel.