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TSbasilisk
post May 9 2017, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(Mikahl @ May 8 2017, 11:59 PM)
I just ordered some Benelli stuff from a local taobao agent fr LYN, let's see how it goes  smile.gif
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this is first time order benelli stuff frm taobao?
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post May 9 2017, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(ciwi1166 @ May 9 2017, 10:05 AM)
it will come down to price, which is more competitive.

quality wise should hv no problem, coming from kawa and yama.
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over here is Msia, after gst price, not OTR

Z650 RM35609
MT07 RM36795

HLY even raise the price aft z650 announced, like they give a damn.

sure do ymh have a lot of supporters here. I think they dont even care

making ABS as an option for MT07.

z650 has ABS, slipper clutch, overall built and finishing seems better than the MT07 which

has alot of plastics covering the tank, etc.
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post May 9 2017, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ May 9 2017, 02:25 PM)
this is first time order benelli stuff frm taobao?
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Ya, agent said the items i ordered may take up to 2 months to arrive.
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post May 9 2017, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ May 9 2017, 03:15 PM)
over here is Msia, after gst price, not OTR

Z650 RM35609
MT07 RM36795

HLY even raise the price aft z650 announced, like they give a damn.

sure do ymh have a lot of supporters here. I think they dont even care

making ABS as an option for MT07.

z650 has ABS, slipper clutch, overall built and finishing seems better than the MT07 which

has alot of plastics covering the tank, etc.
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than up to you la which one u prefer...biggrin.gif

so far have not seen z650 otr yet. maybe u can buy one and review..smile.gif
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post May 9 2017, 07:53 PM

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TRK502 has fab looks for the asking price.

Massive fuel tank means this bike makes for an awesome commuter.

I have always thought Benelli parallel twins are the best sounding of all. It screams almost like an inline 4, and does not sound hollow and lumpy like other parallel twins.

Putting out 47 horses from 500cc is competitive.

UNFORTUNATELY....

... I have doubts about those 47 ponies when matched to the bike's 210kg dry weight. Add 20 litres of fuel, 3 litres of engine oil plus 2 litres of coolant, you're easily looking at 230+kg.

Add in the weight of side boxes, top box plus luggage... yeah... I think that engine will struggle if you expect superior squirt-and-go acceleration to match the Multistrada-esque looks.

NONETHELESS...

... it would still make a very decent commuter bike if you need to travel 60km every day to and from work.
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post May 9 2017, 08:02 PM

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The Benelli Leoncino on the other hand might be a better application of that 500cc parallel twin.

A hell lot less weight would definitely let those 47 horses shine.

That said though.... I just don't understand why the cinapeks refuse to use the 899 triple.

Or why Benelli Malaysia refuses to bring in the TNT600 GT tourer with the fukking awesome, cross country capable 27-litre fuel tank, and adequate 86 horses to shift its 240kg all-up weight over long distances.

It's a far better proposition than the TRK502.
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post May 9 2017, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(Mikahl @ May 9 2017, 07:39 PM)
Ya, agent said the items i ordered may take up to 2 months to arrive.
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using sea freight ? big stuff u buying biggrin.gif

but sea takes bout one month - west msia/KL smile.gif
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QUOTE(ciwi1166 @ May 9 2017, 07:50 PM)
than up to you la which one u prefer...biggrin.gif

so far have not seen z650 otr yet. maybe u can buy one and review..smile.gif
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for my preference i will go for MT07,

just ranting here, share some infos, and to create discussion biggrin.gif

in Msia, unless u r buying BMW, Ducati, it is impossible to test a bike...
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post May 9 2017, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ May 9 2017, 08:02 PM)


That said though.... I just don't understand why the cinapeks refuse to use the 899 triple.


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they won't be able to keep the price down.... biggrin.gif


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post May 9 2017, 09:58 PM

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speaking of triple, the other day heard a mt09 pass by and thought it sounded like a car, the exhaust note biggrin.gif


there is a difference between 4inline and triple sound. most recorded youtube vid can't tell the difference,

but these vids of dyno session by scorpion exhaust shows it clearly.

check out the header sound of the new z900 with standard exhaust. biggrin.gif






compare it with a triple.


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post May 9 2017, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ May 9 2017, 09:31 PM)
using sea freight  ? big stuff u buying biggrin.gif

but sea takes bout one month - west msia/KL  smile.gif
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Small items ony, brake lever and mirrors, but the seller's note mentions long process lead time (dunno why).
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post May 9 2017, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ May 9 2017, 09:39 PM)
for my preference i will go for MT07,

just ranting here, share some infos, and to create discussion  biggrin.gif

in Msia, unless u r buying BMW, Ducati, it is impossible to test a bike...
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I'll go with the MT07 too. Caught my eye when i went bike shopping few months ago, but she'll have to wait; still in the process of getting used to riding, plus still on L.

Read a few reviews comparing the MT07 against Z650, SV650 and Duke 690. Most said all were good bikes, with the MT07 being slightly favoured mostly.

As for the one-up category MT09, it seems that Yamaha has slapped on an engine that outdoes the body, making it too easy to accidentally pop a wheelie. I've not ridden one but i think I'll give that a miss for now. The MT10 also pretty damn sweet, but at RM115....?! Think not smile.gif
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post May 10 2017, 07:39 AM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ May 9 2017, 03:15 PM)
over here is Msia, after gst price, not OTR

Z650 RM35609
MT07 RM36795

HLY even raise the price aft z650 announced, like they give a damn.

sure do ymh have a lot of supporters here. I think they dont even care

making ABS as an option for MT07.

z650 has ABS, slipper clutch, overall built and finishing seems better than the MT07 which

has alot of plastics covering the tank, etc.
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QUOTE(ciwi1166 @ May 9 2017, 07:50 PM)
than up to you la which one u prefer...biggrin.gif

so far have not seen z650 otr yet. maybe u can buy one and review..smile.gif
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QUOTE(Mikahl @ May 9 2017, 11:25 PM)
I'll go with the MT07 too. Caught my eye when i went bike shopping few months ago, but she'll have to wait; still in the process of getting used to riding, plus still on L.

Read a few reviews comparing the MT07 against Z650, SV650 and Duke 690. Most said all were good bikes, with the MT07 being slightly favoured mostly.

As for the one-up category MT09, it seems that Yamaha has slapped on an engine that outdoes the body, making it too easy to accidentally pop a wheelie. I've not ridden one but i think I'll give that a miss for now. The MT10 also pretty damn sweet, but at RM115....?! Think not smile.gif
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Fiddled around both Z650 and MT07 last month at GT Max Shah Alam. I'll go for Z650. Personal preferences. Better sitting position than MT07. thumbup.gif

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post May 10 2017, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(Mikahl @ May 10 2017, 12:25 AM)
As for the one-up category MT09, it seems that Yamaha has slapped on an engine that outdoes the body, making it too easy to accidentally pop a wheelie.
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You can select the sissy mode on the handlebar to cut power and let the traction control prevent you from doing anything stupid with the throttle.

I almost bought this bike.... until I found out it has a puny 14-litre tank to feed the thirsty 850cc engine. That was a deal breaker for me coz I needed to do some serious commuting with the bike (my youthful weekend hero ratah korner antics are long behind me).

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QUOTE(haturaya @ May 10 2017, 07:39 AM)
Fiddled around both Z650 and MT07 last month at GT Max Shah Alam. I'll go for Z650. Personal preferences. Better sitting position than MT07.  thumbup.gif
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look wise,i choose MT07.

z650 looks like it has been over compressed. laugh.gif
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post May 10 2017, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(ciwi1166 @ May 10 2017, 08:37 AM)
look wise,i choose MT07.

z650 looks like it has been over compressed.  laugh.gif
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MT07 & Z650 are equally good. thumbup.gif Price different - not that significant.

All falls upon ones liking and personal preferences. thumbup.gif
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post May 10 2017, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(Mikahl @ May 9 2017, 11:25 PM)


As for the one-up category MT09, it seems that Yamaha has slapped on an engine that outdoes the body, making it too easy to accidentally pop a wheelie. I've not ridden one but i think I'll give that a miss for now. The MT10 also pretty damn sweet, but at RM115....?! Think not smile.gif
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I'm waiting for the 2017 mt09. Don't when will launch here.
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post May 10 2017, 06:26 PM

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On the topic of MT07, i understand the local models don't come equipped with ABS, ....is the ABS really gonna make a big difference? Some researchers in Australia think that ABS makes a 30 percent difference to your chances of an accident on a motorcycle.
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post May 11 2017, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(haturaya @ May 10 2017, 07:39 AM)
Fiddled around both Z650 and MT07 last month at GT Max Shah Alam. I'll go for Z650. Personal preferences. Better sitting position than MT07.  thumbup.gif
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Are you really going to go for it? May I ask why naked/standard? A lot of people go for naked/standard nowadays instead of sportsbike. I do not understand. Can you explain. Is it the riding position? If it is because of riding position why not cruiser then?
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QUOTE(basilisk @ May 4 2017, 06:06 PM)
Benelli, chances of getting a lemon is much higher maybe smile.gif

the competitor is CB500X,

Trk502 if not mistaken has ABS as standard.

price is RM28888, +gst is ~RM30621

cb500x abs + gst is RM35391

only less than 5k difference.

Weight, TRK502 is 235kg wet, cb500x is 194kg wet full tank.
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i will choose the CB500X anyday....

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