Yes, when we talk - we always talk stock.

If you want to add other information, better be detailed if not it's misleading.

Ok

Me beggars won't be choosy

If i have to up my budget then I'll go up to 5k

Add SSD to my build and u are golden. Go for Super Flower Leadex Gold 550W at RM429 too.

i m looking for best value/feature for am4 mobo. can you recommend gigabyte mobo that is suitable? alot of am4 gigabyte out there.

tristanx - would you mind to comment why MSI B350M Mortar - 480 is your selected choice? tq

This post has been edited by demetry: Apr 23 2017, 09:57 PM

Current model of gigabyte B350 range, got similar eletric component, different of price just different of feature, choose the one that features fit you.

But not recommend get over RM600 for B350, cause u just can top up to RM700ish for better Asrock X370.

The important of vrm just for if u want to oc and like to get more stability and lower temp, still there r theory that a electric part which use better quality component will result better lifespan.

This post has been edited by eDwanD: Apr 23 2017, 10:04 PM

mind to explain this onsemi,u prefer gigabyte mobo?

This is the company name which production the mosfet which used on motherboard, commonly the mosfet cost more expensive, the better brand and quality it should be.

At higher end mobo as biostar gt7, asus crosshair, asrock taichi, commonly they use infineon or texus instrument mosfet. An the power phase controller will using better one.

Lower tier of X370 mobo, use onsemi which us company, sinosem or nikosem which taiwan company, but they use more component and result you got more power phase for oc.

And at lower end of B350 range, commonly using nikosem or sinosem, the better one will using onsemi.

This post has been edited by eDwanD: Apr 24 2017, 01:20 PM

Sinopower is from taiwan.

i noticed msi board has displayport, i tot only GPU will provide displayport connection to your monitor?

AM4 chipset support AMD upcoming APUs as well, those APUs have built in graphic chip so you can output display without graphic card.

do you mean current b350 mobo has apu already? if not we can add apu to it

Coming soon. APU haven't come to market yet. The current B350 can support APU but most likely need a BIOS update to include new CPU microcode support. That's all. AM4 is AMD's 1 socket for all consumer desktop CPU. Not like last time got AM3 and FM2.

The only APU "available" for AM4 mainboard right now is the Bristol Bridge APUs which base on older pre-Zen architecture. It perform just slightly faster than older APU so not recommended to get those.. i don't think you can find one on the shelf anyway.

Oops, my bad @@ mistaken =w=

where can u get 2133mhz DDR4 as low as RM140/8gb stick?

I think i saw wrongly, its old price list

This post has been edited by eDwanD: May 6 2017, 06:24 AM

RAM price has increased drastically i think the chance is low

Nice community of enthusiasts here

Recently, I also want to make a rig with similar budget to replace my very old laptop... RM conversion to USD are too much for me to buy another decent laptop XD

Hence, I have to do my research for making rig, last time was more than 15years... hahaha... hiks... I'm getting old...

Regarding to this comment...
^most of the statements are solid. However, for b350 series of Gigabyte aren't that tolerant to heat unfortunately: https://youtu.be/ZGrxhf_xZWI?t=14m10s
Just get only if you get a good price and make sure get the one with heatsink unless only 4 cores processor used. if only based on VRM, I'll take MSI boards with 4+2 designs any day.

Concerning TS questions for mother boards: the sweet spot would be Asrock b350 pro4 priced around 4XXRM although it is only 3+2 VRM but it has all the necessary things like 2 x m.2 slot! specifically if your work requires a lot of disk space, you can just pop in NVME drive in the future once it is cheaper / you have the budget. Unless you plan to overlock 3+2 VRM would be just fine.

Additionally, waiting for another couple of months would be better options if possible. Until the support of the new architecture is stabilised. There are always "bugs" for new tech... specifically ryzen has significant changes compared to previous generation... I know shops will hate me by sharing this fact

Additionally, in order to put more oil to the discussion, memory quality (speed and latency) is important when you build Ryzen based rig for overall performance (either for gaming or productivity) due to it's Infinity Fabric architecture, and yet the BIOS for Ryzen is not yet optimal at this moment. The current high performance memory are settings are for Intel. This doesn't mean you can get high performance in Ryzen, "just" requires some manual settings to get it the performance otherwise it will be clocked at lower speed or higher latency. And only some mobos allowed to change this settings at the moment; mostly high end as far as I know: X370 based XD

Nevertheless, thanks for AMD for releasing Ryzen as it makes PC building more sophisticated and fun again!

But I've been using Ryzen setup for more than 2 months now leh, very stable. What else people want?

I'm quite sure the Asus VRM uses better mosfets that are more efficient than Gigabyte which is using mediocre/low end mosfets, similar in quality with MSI in their B350 mb's. Asrock may only have 3 power phases for the cpu but it doubled up all the components so the VRM will probably run alot cooler which is important since heat seems to be an issue for 6/8 core builds.