Guys, i already got the nvidia 1060, are you saying that the graphic card is not recommended to be with ryzen 1700?

He already has a GTX 1060. So now you can add an SSD and go with higher speed RAM.

Until someone can really prove that it is an Nvidia card optimization we can't actually say for certain it's an "nvidia card optimization for Ryzen" thing.

Intel and AMD Ryzen processors are not equal, you put them at same speed also that doesn't mean they're equal in any way.

Hitman for example, GTX 1080 on Intel processor gets almost double the average framerate on Full HD high details.

The clock speed difference isn't far but the gap is huge, it's more than optimization.

There's a reason why AMD through out the entire Ryzen Tech Day event talks very little about gaming, VERY.

i dont think the nvidia optimization have any influence, cause i check linus tech tips they bust the myth already.

nani .......
As much as I support AMD, there are things that I can't "accept" because of personal experience. He's not wrong but not all titles are such.
No, Ryzen X Nvidia is OK actually. You see even many titles the results are very close.

Also for cards like GTX 1060 and RX 470 - they work the same on AMD Ryzen setup.

Hardware Unboxed already did a testing on Ryzen x nVidia thingy and the conclusion was that no such thing as nvidia gimping drivers with Ryzen platform.

There was issue with SLI I think, but as far as single card goes, no such thing was exhibited.

It does. Else you can show link or youtube that SSD does not improve video editing.

Anyway for my budget I'm still better off with Ryzen CPU am i right?

Because i see for my budget i can only get core i5 or i7 but push my budget

more core, more power consumption?

Nope. You have to see other factors.

Ryzen 5 1500X (4 cores) = 65W TDP
Ryzen 5 1600 (6 cores) = 65W TDP
Ryzen 5 1600X (6 cores) = 95W TDP
Ryzen 7 1700 (8 cores) = 65W TDP

I think i wont be overclocking my CPU
If Intel I would have got non K i5 7600 / i7 7700

Hw much is 1500x? I think u gave a good full info to ts.

Video editing component with gaming component,, ts will need to push his budget to get high end pc dy Ask goldfries advice is most viable as he is already using both and tested all ryzen n intel based.

For my part, im just worried about cooling factor.

U know maybe i should save money wait for the new AMD Vegas???  GPU

I'm just pointing out the flaw in your statement ........
Ryzen 5 1500X (4 cores) = 65W TDP
Ryzen 5 1600 (6 cores) = 65W TDP
Ryzen 5 1600X (6 cores) = 95W TDP
Ryzen 7 1700 (8 cores) = 65W TDP
Even if you want to pick articles - you should note also that at this point they're all running at similar voltage and similar speeds.

This is why I replied to your post with "Nope. You have to see other factors."

You can't generalize more cores is faster.

Ryzen 7 1700 is 8 cores but 3.0Ghz while Ryzen 5 1600X is 3.6Ghz.

See the difference? You can't just say more cores mean more power draw, it doesn't work that way unless they're running on equal settings on other areas like voltage and frequency.

i m looking for best value/feature for am4 mobo. can you recommend gigabyte mobo that is suitable? alot of am4 gigabyte out there.

tristanx - would you mind to comment why MSI B350M Mortar - 480 is your selected choice? tq

mind to explain this onsemi,u prefer gigabyte mobo?

Sinopower is from taiwan.

where can u get 2133mhz DDR4 as low as RM140/8gb stick?

I'm quite sure the Asus VRM uses better mosfets that are more efficient than Gigabyte which is using mediocre/low end mosfets, similar in quality with MSI in their B350 mb's. Asrock may only have 3 power phases for the cpu but it doubled up all the components so the VRM will probably run alot cooler which is important since heat seems to be an issue for 6/8 core builds.

Nice community of enthusiasts here

Recently, I also want to make a rig with similar budget to replace my very old laptop... RM conversion to USD are too much for me to buy another decent laptop XD

Hence, I have to do my research for making rig, last time was more than 15years... hahaha...  hiks... I'm getting old...

Regarding to this comment...
^most of the statements are solid. However, for b350 series of Gigabyte aren't that tolerant to heat unfortunately: https://youtu.be/ZGrxhf_xZWI?t=14m10s
Just get only if you get a good price and make sure get the one with heatsink unless only 4 cores processor used. if only based on VRM, I'll take MSI boards with 4+2 designs any day.

Concerning TS questions for mother boards: the sweet spot would be Asrock b350 pro4 priced around 4XXRM although it is only 3+2 VRM but it has all the necessary things like 2 x m.2 slot! specifically if your work requires a lot of disk space, you can just pop in NVME drive in the future once it is cheaper / you have the budget. Unless you plan to overlock 3+2 VRM would be just fine.

Additionally, waiting for another couple of months would be better options if possible. Until the support of the new architecture is stabilised. There are always "bugs" for new tech... specifically ryzen has significant changes compared to previous generation... I know shops will hate me by sharing this fact

Additionally, in order to put more oil to the discussion, memory quality (speed and latency) is important when you build Ryzen based rig for overall performance (either for gaming or productivity) due to it's Infinity Fabric architecture, and yet the BIOS for Ryzen is not yet optimal at this moment. The current high performance memory are settings are for Intel. This doesn't mean you can get high performance in Ryzen, "just" requires some manual settings to get it the performance otherwise it will be clocked at lower speed or higher latency. And only some mobos allowed to change this settings at the moment; mostly high end as far as I know: X370 based XD

Nevertheless, thanks for AMD for releasing Ryzen as it makes PC building more sophisticated and fun again!

https://youtu.be/ZGrxhf_xZWI
You don't understand what I said, see the video which was posted earlier by hairy.
Asus mosfets are better quality and so the VRMs will run cooler than 4+3 Gigabyte. The soc side VRM doesn't have to supply much power so it is relatively unimportant.
Asrock has 6 phases for the cpu side VRM, theres more than 1 method of doubling. The cpu side VRM will run cooler because theres more components to deliver the power.
According to the this german review,
"They run all quite hot, the gigabyte B350 Gaming is the worst, over 110 degrees with a 1800X stock. Biostar up to 100, Asrock over 80. Best ist the Asus B350 with under 80"

Users are reporting >110C ~1.3-1.4V with Gigabyte. 110C might still be within spec but thats not good since there are other nearby components which will be affected badly by high heat. Typically motherboards will throttle or shutdown at around 125C for VRMs.

It should be quite obvious we are talking about current Ryzen cpus not apus.

You're incorrect, the previous video by buildzoid clearly says that the Asus has better mosfets and what he says is backed up by multiple reviews show the same model numbers so there is no dispute there. The Asus uses the 4c09b which has a better rating than the Gigabyte 4c10n for the high side mosfet. The low side have the same rating for both brands. I've already provided a link which showed a good review showing significant differences in temps. And many users have reported similar high temps.

You clearly missed the part in the video which shows that the Asrock has double the number of high side mosfets of Gigabyte and not just the inductors which will help bring the heat down. Asrock doesn't have a real 9 phase design but the components in the VRM power stages are 9 phase.

The point is not about long term heavy overclocking but your clumsy motherboard rating based on the number of phases.

I used the numbers given by the stock 1800x since if a motherboard cannot handle stock clocks, it will not overclock properly at all.