Have you even convert videos or play games before? 8 core or SSD with 6 core? Better GPU or SSD with weaker GPU?

Changing CPU and GPU is harder than add SSD by the way.


This post has been edited by TristanX: Apr 22 2017, 01:56 PM

All my video editing rig has SSD and HDD / SSHD.

HDD / SSHD for video storage.

Even for HDD right, the read / write speed is already plenty fast for video editing.

Rendering of video has all the while being CPU game. GPU is "iffy".

Would you buy SSD if you are limited by budget?

Nope.

I'm one of the (I think rare) people who still thinks that it's fine to run HDD setup.

My HTPC is using HDD setup, it's the best path to go when space is more important than speed.

If you have 1 rig to setup for video purpose - 256GB SSD vs 4TB HDD, I'll take 4TB HDD any day.

HDD is for my long term storage archive
Longer term will put on external

I transfer the footage i need to edit on to the SSD and do work there and render there

Anyway for my budget I'm still better off with Ryzen CPU am i right?

Because i see for my budget i can only get core i5 or i7 but push my budget

Its common for who done heavy workload, commonly go for large hdd.
At least, 1 SSD + 1 HDD should be for usage of workload editing + gaming + daily usage.
but at least 250gb SSD and above, 120gb is too less for doing job.

SSD give him speed for loading program, loading game, casual using as well, and also loads file for save time when editting.
But for purpose above, a 256gb ssd is minimum reqirement.
HDD indeed for storage, but who know TS will use for heavy video editting or just light project?

But according to ts, he stated that SSD, thats why recommend a SSD to his rig under his budget.

For is it needed 8 core? Some ppl wont mind for letting video rendering by afk a while, 6 core may benefit as well.

Rig suggest just a suggest, nothing is wrong or right, different user different need.

For me, i will go some parts in used condition, some part going speciall offer, more budget for better spec.

ryzen R5 1600 RM1020.00 / R7 1700 RM1599.00

(More core, better cpu power for editing workloads etc, especially in rendering time. But more core, more power consumption, may result vrm more heat if OC heavy)

any B350 mobo RM 450.00

(Quality of mobo, Gigabyte (4+3 with onsemi) > Asus (4+2 with onsemi) > Biostar (4+3 with sinosem) > MSI (4+2 with nicosem) > ASROCK (3+3 with nicosem, commonly better VRM give u better temp and stability when OC under high volt, still not recommended for OC 24/7 under 1.4v with ryzen 7 + B350 mobo, commonly give u about 100'c on vrm, got possibility toast ur mobo after long time run.)

DDR 4 8gbx2 RM 650.00

(There's are cheaper 2133mhz DDR4 as low as RM140/8gb stick, but u need check is it in QVL of mobo u choose to better run will with ur mobo. RM650 is 3000/3200mhz 8dbx2 kit that commonlay well run in any am4 mobo)

Samsung 850 evo 250gb RM 450.00

MSI/Sapphire RX570 4gb RM 975.00 / zotac gtx 1060 3gb mini RM 910.00

(RX 470 4gb give u more gaming guarantee with benefit of 4gb vram, becoz big title may consume more than 3gb. Still, as goldfries stated, NVIDIA cuda benefit you at Mercury playback, or get u self a used gtx1060 6gb with RM850 because this few month there are few ppl sell their gtx1060 6gb in this price, just take time to wait them )

leadex ii gold 650W psu RM 480.00 / Leadex Silver 550W - RM 360.00

(Tier 1 and tier 2 PSU different component, different PSU quality, not said the tier 2 psu is bad. just 1 cent more get you quality, more RM120 more space for future upgrade,better power supply,better secure better hardware lifespan in theory.)

nzxt s340 RM 340.00

Try asking idealtech, dotatech, topmaid, etechpc etc for a quote, if not wrongly there r at least RM100 discount when u buy ryzen+mobo+ram maybe more with full rig?

This post has been edited by eDwanD: Apr 22 2017, 05:21 PM

more core, more power consumption?

Nope. You have to see other factors.

Ryzen 5 1500X (4 cores) = 65W TDP
Ryzen 5 1600 (6 cores) = 65W TDP
Ryzen 5 1600X (6 cores) = 95W TDP
Ryzen 7 1700 (8 cores) = 65W TDP

I think i wont be overclocking my CPU
If Intel I would have got non K i5 7600 / i7 7700

This post has been edited by Lumiaaa: Apr 22 2017, 05:38 PM

That's what I always think too. Base PC performance first, SSD later.

I googled, and found that r7 1700 4ghz nearly same power usage with r7 1800x. Both r 65w tdp and 95 tdp.
r5 1600 4ghz with 1.44v still consume about 20w less than r7 4ghz.
r5 1400 4ghz with 1.40v consume less than 1600.

May explain? cause i thought if similar vcore, the power consumption is nearly same, but less core should lower power consumption than more core. as example of 1700 and 1800x, different tdp but didnt seems any big different when full load under ssimilar vcore.

Then a B350 will fit u in ur way. In same range of price, why not getting best electric component a mobo has.
Gigabyte has best vrm quality overall among those brand, more stability and better component, as i know onboard audio of gigabyte is better in this range.
Anyway, u may consider other mobo that fit u for feature or maybe outlook color theme or aftersales service?

Hw much is 1500x? I think u gave a good full info to ts.

Video editing component with gaming component,, ts will need to push his budget to get high end pc dy Ask goldfries advice is most viable as he is already using both and tested all ryzen n intel based.

For my part, im just worried about cooling factor.

U know maybe i should save money wait for the new AMD Vegas??? GPU

This post has been edited by Lumiaaa: Apr 22 2017, 07:07 PM

I randow pcik a review for power consumption, 1500x @4ghz/1.5v 182w, 1600x @4.1ghz/1.5v 222w, 1800x @ 4.0ghz/1.37v 276w (total system power undel prime95)

I found out that better tdp may cause better temp of cpu, but didnt get power cunsumption lesser, if cpu draw more power, will get vrm process more and heat produce from vrm will increase.

Asking goldfries than he can easily point out my mistaken/misunderstanding about my statemen, because i still in study about this that lolz XD

(Its a pain that no money and chance to try our any combination of pc component, so just can try find out more and more infoo by reading review etc)

If not urgent, just wait vega release and decide after that?

I also not much budget, thats why survey more and more, and find a sweet spot for my need. XD

Some parts as ram and casing, i just get the used unit for save up 20% of cost, and get cheaper 20% price for seasonic psu which still have 4 years warranty.
Grab myself an unit of ryzen 1700 by sweet price 1399 from seller in garage sales as well.

All i left just a gpu, at this moment,
the best gpu i would pay for RM1k range is, RM850 used GTX1060 6gb (commonly used within 6 month) >RM 950 for new RX 570 4gb > RM1.1k for used RX480 8gb

The next point is RM1.8k for GTX1070, but i would like to wait for vega, because if Vega is competitor of gtx1080 and more better performance/bucks, it should about range rm2k

This post has been edited by eDwanD: Apr 22 2017, 07:33 PM

Of course, that's overclocked state.

Let's talk about stock, the one I posted just now are all on stock. That alone tells you that more cores doesn't mean drain more.

Even the Ryzen 5 1500X / 1600X when overclocked to 4Ghz also can draw similarly to the Ryzen 7 models.

So in fact when you calculate how many watts per core, the Ryzen 7 with more core actually does better, which proves that more core doesn't mean drain more power.

Vega is at least GTX 1080 level. Won't replace RX 570 and 580.

I'm just pointing out the flaw in your statement ........

Ryzen 5 1500X (4 cores) = 65W TDP
Ryzen 5 1600 (6 cores) = 65W TDP
Ryzen 5 1600X (6 cores) = 95W TDP
Ryzen 7 1700 (8 cores) = 65W TDP

Even if you want to pick articles - you should note also that at this point they're all running at similar voltage and similar speeds.

This is why I replied to your post with "Nope. You have to see other factors."

You can't generalize more cores is faster.

Ryzen 7 1700 is 8 cores but 3.0Ghz while Ryzen 5 1600X is 3.6Ghz.

See the difference? You can't just say more cores mean more power draw, it doesn't work that way unless they're running on equal settings on other areas like voltage and frequency.

I see, my statement lack of something, the properly should write as

If oced to same core speed under same vcore, more the core, will consume more power. Its right that i should write properly, because will misleading @@

Thanks for reply, improperly statement was made by my careless@@

Under same clock speed and similar vcore, ryzen more core = watt/core sure is more efficiency, but still there r significant gaps of total power consumption between them.