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post Apr 22 2017, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 22 2017, 12:52 AM)
Just only few game, especially with dx12, u may get drop of fps due to nvidia card optimization for ryzen.
Until someone can really prove that it is an Nvidia card optimization we can't actually say for certain it's an "nvidia card optimization for Ryzen" thing.

Intel and AMD Ryzen processors are not equal, you put them at same speed also that doesn't mean they're equal in any way.

smile.gif Hitman for example, GTX 1080 on Intel processor gets almost double the average framerate on Full HD high details.

The clock speed difference isn't far but the gap is huge, it's more than optimization.

There's a reason why AMD through out the entire Ryzen Tech Day event talks very little about gaming, VERY.
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post Apr 22 2017, 02:03 AM

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QUOTE(avengers88 @ Apr 22 2017, 12:45 AM)
Guys, i already got the nvidia 1060, are you saying that the graphic card is not recommended to be with ryzen 1700?
Take it from me, who actually has 5 Ryzen processors and used with 3 Nvidia cards 1060, 1070 and 1080. smile.gif

1. There's nothing to worry about

2. As what eDwanD mentioned above, it's actually correct BUT not enough details provided. The performance drop happens
- only on certain titles
- gap varies from title to title, and varies from the resolution
- the gap narrows on lower end cards
- the gap narrows on higher gaming resolution

smile.gif Clearer now?

So no need to worry. It'll work just fine. If you use Adobe Premiere Pro you will benefit from the processor cores and the CUDA on GPU for Mercury Playback.

My current rig for video work and gaming is on Ryzen 7 processor, usually the 1800X and cards either an RX 470 or GTX 1070 but they get swapped around from time to time.
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post Apr 22 2017, 02:05 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Apr 22 2017, 12:15 AM)
Don't bother with SSD when your budget is not even enough for both decent CPU and GPU.
He already has a GTX 1060. biggrin.gif So now you can add an SSD and go with higher speed RAM.

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post Apr 22 2017, 02:38 AM

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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 22 2017, 02:24 AM)
Eh to~ he is not TS who open thread XD


nani ....... tongue.gif

QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 22 2017, 02:24 AM)
As much as I support AMD, there are things that I can't "accept" because of personal experience. biggrin.gif He's not wrong but not all titles are such.

QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 22 2017, 02:24 AM)
The only confirm is that combination of ryzen X nvidia is not as good as ryzen X ati if same range of gpu.


No, Ryzen X Nvidia is OK actually. You see even many titles the results are very close.

Also for cards like GTX 1060 and RX 470 - they work the same on AMD Ryzen setup.
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post Apr 22 2017, 02:39 AM

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QUOTE(pspslim007 @ Apr 22 2017, 02:30 AM)
i dont think the nvidia optimization have any influence, cause i check linus tech tips they bust the myth already. doh.gif
I no need to check Linus, I personally tested. biggrin.gif

Furthermore if software optimization is an issue, it shouldn't be affecting the framerates so badly, even at same clock speed.

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post Apr 22 2017, 03:56 PM

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All my video editing rig has SSD and HDD / SSHD. biggrin.gif

HDD / SSHD for video storage.

Even for HDD right, the read / write speed is already plenty fast for video editing.

Rendering of video has all the while being CPU game. GPU is "iffy".
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post Apr 22 2017, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Apr 22 2017, 03:58 PM)
Would you buy SSD if you are limited by budget?
Nope.

I'm one of the (I think rare) people who still thinks that it's fine to run HDD setup.

My HTPC is using HDD setup, it's the best path to go when space is more important than speed.

If you have 1 rig to setup for video purpose - 256GB SSD vs 4TB HDD, I'll take 4TB HDD any day.

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post Apr 22 2017, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 22 2017, 05:19 PM)
ryzen R5 1600                  RM1020.00 / R7 1700 RM1599.00
(More core, better cpu power for editing workloads etc, especially in rendering time. But more core, more power consumption, may result vrm more heat if OC heavy)
more core, more power consumption? smile.gif

Nope. You have to see other factors.

Ryzen 5 1500X (4 cores) = 65W TDP
Ryzen 5 1600 (6 cores) = 65W TDP
Ryzen 5 1600X (6 cores) = 95W TDP
Ryzen 7 1700 (8 cores) = 65W TDP
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post Apr 22 2017, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 22 2017, 05:45 PM)
I googled, and found that r7 1700 4ghz nearly same power usage with r7 1800x. Both r 65w tdp and 95 tdp.
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Of course, that's overclocked state.

Let's talk about stock, the one I posted just now are all on stock. That alone tells you that more cores doesn't mean drain more.

Even the Ryzen 5 1500X / 1600X when overclocked to 4Ghz also can draw similarly to the Ryzen 7 models.

So in fact when you calculate how many watts per core, the Ryzen 7 with more core actually does better, which proves that more core doesn't mean drain more power.

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post Apr 22 2017, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 22 2017, 07:22 PM)
Asking goldfries than he can easily point out my mistaken/misunderstanding about my statemen, because i still in study about this that lolz XD
I'm just pointing out the flaw in your statement ........

QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 22 2017, 05:19 PM)
(More core, better cpu power for editing workloads etc, especially in rendering time. But more core, more power consumption, may result vrm more heat if OC heavy)
Ryzen 5 1500X (4 cores) = 65W TDP
Ryzen 5 1600 (6 cores) = 65W TDP
Ryzen 5 1600X (6 cores) = 95W TDP
Ryzen 7 1700 (8 cores) = 65W TDP

QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 22 2017, 07:22 PM)
I randow pcik a review for power consumption, 1500x @4ghz/1.5v 182w, 1600x @4.1ghz/1.5v 222w, 1800x @ 4.0ghz/1.37v 276w (total system power undel prime95)
Even if you want to pick articles - you should note also that at this point they're all running at similar voltage and similar speeds.

This is why I replied to your post with "Nope. You have to see other factors."

You can't generalize more cores is faster.

Ryzen 7 1700 is 8 cores but 3.0Ghz while Ryzen 5 1600X is 3.6Ghz.

See the difference? You can't just say more cores mean more power draw, it doesn't work that way unless they're running on equal settings on other areas like voltage and frequency.
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post Apr 22 2017, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 22 2017, 09:10 PM)
If oced to same core speed under same vcore, more the core, will consume more power. Its right that i should write properly, because will misleading @@
Yes, when we talk - we always talk stock.

If you want to add other information, better be detailed if not it's misleading.
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post May 10 2017, 03:29 PM

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But I've been using Ryzen setup for more than 2 months now leh, very stable. What else people want? smile.gif
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post May 12 2017, 11:55 PM

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No bug. No bluescreen. No bootup issues.

All running perfect. I use Adobe Premiere Pro for video works with it. I play Overwatch, Heroes of the Storm and StarCraft II on it.

Zero hiccups till date, even with 1700 overclocked.

OK la, hiccup / bluescreen only during overclock test - that one don't count.
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post May 13 2017, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(hairy_porker @ May 13 2017, 12:42 AM)
^ Did you update your BIOS recently? care to share what is your setup? I'm quite curious specifically in the memory department, if you don't mind, kindly share the memory spec (clock/speed/voltage) spec vs actual.
This is my current concern to postpone hahaha... as the RAM price now is hiked, I want to be as closed as the spec it stated LOL
This one's for you.

https://www.facebook.com/goldfries.fanpage/...?type=3&theater

I manually set to 15-17-17-35 with 1.35vdimm as per the specs.
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post May 13 2017, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(hairy_porker @ May 13 2017, 01:19 AM)
Thanks and that's nice freq and tight latency smile.gif where did you get this lpx series corsair?
I assumes you use x370 chipset mobo with external memory clock generator / modulator to get that frequency smile.gif
AMD gave it to us early testers. smile.gif

X370 - just set the memory speed, and change timings. Nothing fancy.

 

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