Im looking at building a Video Editing, rendering computer using premire pro and after effects. My current laptop cannot handle this workload. It's hot i think it's going to go bust soon. Laptops are no good for rendering so it's time for a PC

For games it's casual games, most graphics intense game i currently have is GTA V which i play on my laptop at 30 FPS and Dota

Maybe i will get Battlefront 2


budget around RM 4500

Would prefer AMD Ryzen for its more cores
around my budget would be the Ryzen 5 series?

looking for these other specs
16GB RAM
SSD
not sure if can squeeze a GTX 1060 into the budget
how are the options on AMD GPU
otherwise go for 1050ti

what motherboard to get

case NZXT S340

I already have monitor

ryzen R5 1600 RM1020.00
any B350 mobo RM 450.00
ddr4 8gbx2 RM 650.00
ramsung 850 evo 250gb RM 450.00
rx470 4gb RM 975.00
nzxt s340 RM 340.00
leadex ii gold 650W psu RM 480.00

Roughly RM4390.00

ATI for ryzen, coz nvidia have optimaztion issue.
GPU can go for 8gb if dont mind lower setting for 1440p gaming or future usage, top up RM150.
Ram pls check with the QVL list of mobo u want to buy.
CPU cooler, if willing to OC more than vcore 1.35v 24/7, can choose 3rd party cooler.
Maybe get higher tier X370 mobo as well, top up RM250, for better vrm and hsf due to OC B350 under 24/7 heavy load, vrm will temp high.

Edited:
B350 range OC notes
Asrock not recommended due to not a real doubler of 3 phase cpu vrm, but only 3 phase vrm.
Gigabyte (4+3 with onsemi) > Asus (4+2 with onsemi) > Biostar (4+3 with sinosem) > MSI (4+2 with nicosem) > ASROCK (3+3 with nicosem)

This post has been edited by eDwanD: Apr 22 2017, 02:49 AM

Don't bother with SSD when your budget is not even enough for both decent CPU and GPU.

How about these?

AMD Ryzen 7 1700 - 1599
MSI B350M Mortar - 480
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 X2 - 520
MSI RX 570 4GB DDR5 Gaming X - 970
WD Blue (7200rpm only) or Seagate 1TB - 212
Super Flower Leadex Silver 550W - 359
NZXT S340 case - 335 (from Idealtech)

RM4475 total (C-Zone prices)

Add SSD later when you have more budget.

Guys, i already got the nvidia 1060, are you saying that the graphic card is not recommended to be with ryzen 1700?

Just only few game, especially with dx12, u may get drop of fps due to nvidia card optimization for ryzen.

Until someone can really prove that it is an Nvidia card optimization we can't actually say for certain it's an "nvidia card optimization for Ryzen" thing.

Intel and AMD Ryzen processors are not equal, you put them at same speed also that doesn't mean they're equal in any way.

Hitman for example, GTX 1080 on Intel processor gets almost double the average framerate on Full HD high details.

The clock speed difference isn't far but the gap is huge, it's more than optimization.

There's a reason why AMD through out the entire Ryzen Tech Day event talks very little about gaming, VERY.

Take it from me, who actually has 5 Ryzen processors and used with 3 Nvidia cards 1060, 1070 and 1080.

1. There's nothing to worry about

2. As what eDwanD mentioned above, it's actually correct BUT not enough details provided. The performance drop happens
- only on certain titles
- gap varies from title to title, and varies from the resolution
- the gap narrows on lower end cards
- the gap narrows on higher gaming resolution

Clearer now?

So no need to worry. It'll work just fine. If you use Adobe Premiere Pro you will benefit from the processor cores and the CUDA on GPU for Mercury Playback.

My current rig for video work and gaming is on Ryzen 7 processor, usually the 1800X and cards either an RX 470 or GTX 1070 but they get swapped around from time to time.

He already has a GTX 1060. So now you can add an SSD and go with higher speed RAM.

Eh to~ he is not TS who open thread XD

Erm, true on ur statement, we cant conlclude anything coz no prove what's actually going on.
The only confirm is that combination of ryzen X nvidia is not as good as ryzen X ati if same range of gpu.

https://www.pcper.com/news/Processors/AMD-r...ing-tests-Ryzen

i dont think the nvidia optimization have any influence, cause i check linus tech tips they bust the myth already.

nani .......

As much as I support AMD, there are things that I can't "accept" because of personal experience. He's not wrong but not all titles are such.



No, Ryzen X Nvidia is OK actually. You see even many titles the results are very close.

Also for cards like GTX 1060 and RX 470 - they work the same on AMD Ryzen setup.

I no need to check Linus, I personally tested.

Furthermore if software optimization is an issue, it shouldn't be affecting the framerates so badly, even at same clock speed.

Any link for linus tech tips bust the myth? sorry that i failed to find the video @@

This the myth that i still feel weird, dunno is ryzen arch not matched up nvidia? or just simply game patch or nvidia driver can fixed out.

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/763557...-with-amd-gpus/

Since i still can't find any real explanation of this myth, tat's why i cant easily recommended nvidia to others. Surely, if going higher than gtx1070 currently, theres no point hold back to to RX480, even the myth occurs, still wont effect much than the OP tat gtx 1070 and above against ati rx580.

Yup, only few title will got that issue, tat issue stated by prevent other later disappointment due to OSD sickness?

This post has been edited by eDwanD: Apr 22 2017, 03:27 AM

i dont know, its either linus or the jayz2cents guy, the were doing the review for ryzen and fitted both build with rx and gtx card. To top it off, they even throw in intel to compare the results.

ryzen cpu, 2133mhz ddr4, midrange gpu all already good enuf. i think ssd is more important than all above bcuz thestorage is the SLOWEST component of all.

Hardware Unboxed already did a testing on Ryzen x nVidia thingy and the conclusion was that no such thing as nvidia gimping drivers with Ryzen platform.

There was issue with SLI I think, but as far as single card goes, no such thing was exhibited.

SSD does not improve processing.

It does. Else you can show link or youtube that SSD does not improve video editing.

Hardware Unboxed admit there's still some issue caused by probably is driver issue under his test of Does Ryzen works better under AMD GPUs Part 1

I think i will stated 1 more times, issue just a minor issue, only few game (because there are a lot other game than those game which alwayas benchmarked).
The issue wont draw you back from nvidia if u dun mind, but will draw someone back if they want full guaranteed performance.
Just same as a lot of ppl didnt agreed ryzen is great cpu for gaming due to its lower ipc performance than 7700k, theres lot people choosing i7 7700k with just paired with gtx 1060.

Issue is issue, wont disappear until it fixed in any way it will.

SSD does improve video editing,but not really when rendering process.
SSD can load file faster than HDD will save more time when editing, but if workout a big file workload, a big size HDD is advantage than small size SSD.

Both get their different advantage, the best solution, is grab which one u need more, or maybe 120gb SSD(for os and those program usage and alternative for some file that video editing need) +1TB HDD (for save lots file which consume space) is a good choice too, anyway, it up to TS finalize his choice.