Hi all Sifu,

please advice which 1 is better?

None because both are just 2.0!

haha budget for 2.0 mid spec only

The Accord handles better but the Camry is more comfortable. Both are good cars. It just depends on your preference.

You should be aware that both models are due to be replaced in 2018 so if it's not urgent, you should hold off on buying until next year.

Camry better resale right?

Then don't buy d-segment, just buy the smaller c-segment (Mazda 3 or Civic).

this year is the worst time to buy both. Not only the discounts offered are abysmal, but the new gens are just around the corner.

Just tahan abit lorr. 1 more year. The new Camry has already been revealed and has that Lexus treatment on it.

New Accord will ditch the dinosaur 2.0 ivtec and gearbox and perhaps use a new turboengine. Design-wise will have that civic ques on it as well.

or if cannot tahan then i suggest go for civic cuz its brand new gen with the latest tech

say no to sohc honda. they are not that good handle as before (double wishbone gone)

camry may good or bad depends ur taste. i find its clumsy so i will aim other than this 2 brands

btw u mistaken 2000cc not 2.0cc adui

This post has been edited by ktek: Apr 20 2017, 10:59 PM

Perhaps, but in general D segment cars don't have RV. Also, it doesn't really matter what brand you buy. Conti, Jap, ... RV is relatively similar in this segment.

I'd go for the Accord, though really I'd pick the Mazda 6. The predecessor was one of the most reliable cars in the world, and it's still fun to drive, modern etc.

Mazda 6 most underrated

New camry out in US worr.. so dont buy now.. stupid move...

Every time think of RV might as well don't buy car! Which car doesn't depreciate? The depreciation rate is accordance to the car price in regardless of conti or jap! Motorbike also depreciate in value! 2 L for these two are like turtle ler! So big size but small stamina! Puff! Puff!

Why stupid move? Maybe TS doesn't mind if both give massive discount? it's gonna be another year or so before it arrives here! One year a lot of uncertainties .Maybe Rm will be 5 against the greenback and fall miserably against the yen! Thus maybe jap car price will hike for another 10%or so!

2.0L for d segment is a bit underpowered..but then it depends on your pov..for cruising not that bad. maybe brisk acceleration with full load, will suffer. better go for a smaller c segment (altis 2.0, civic 1.5T or mazda 3 2.0).

for the car itself, currently camry have newer engine with 6 speed gearbox (tho the review said, the gearbox a bit lethargic). about handling cant say much about the 2.0..since i usually drive the hybrid one. the car generally comfortable..nvh a bit good. steering feel a bit numb..body roll is quite ok.

If you want the space of a D-segment, just go for the Honda Civic, you'll be surprised with the amount of space it has.

try buy peugeot, then u will understand what rv is all about. last year my father let go his 2012 508 at 50-55k. bought at 150k.

yep..bigger boot than accord or camry. superb leg room. better kit.

I think late this year or early next year, honda and toyota malaysia 4 sure giving massive discount for accord and camry to clear stock and waiting for new model.

depends on ts, but for me. I will wait 4 new gen camry & accord. new gen got leaps and bounds improvement as compared to current generation. both accord and camry 2.0 engine has been carry forwards since few years ago. they only tune it for fuel efficiency and imagine it almost become obsolete for the price u pay.

u can get many discount but remember u will be hit by massive depreciation also since people know the tech has been around for many years. If u can wait and not desperate to get a car, better wait another 1 years.


civic for me still a bit small for my height. I sit on accord and civic, civic just ngam ngam, but accord got left space for leg space both when im sitting in front and at the back. really huge. If new accord come with turbo, then it will become perfect product.

There are a couple of things here:

2.0 D segment cars do 0-60 in around 9 seconds. It's not fast and it won't do much for you on a race track but it's fast enough for normal people driving to work etc. When I leave my condo in the morning, I don't floor the accelerator and push the red line all the way to the office.

The current Accord has been on sale since 2008 with various faces. The model for 2018 will be all new. There is really no point in buying a car at the end of its product life cycle regardless of the discounts offered.

Really only 9 secs meh? I think more than that. And it's not just about 0-60mph time, but more about how it responses when you're already cruising and that's where a car with good power/torque will feel a lot different. But anyway if got good power, actually no need to push the gas pedal much to red line, it should be more effortless, so that's the point! But yeah anyway people have different feel of what is enough power or under power, mostly based on driving habit. If one is used to driving under powered cars then they won't feel it's under powered in the first place so still ok.

Quite true. Underpowered or enough power is mostly based on individual perception. I used to drive a 2.0L Optima. Many people will consider it underpowered but I considered it adequate for daily driving. I only feel the lack of power when climbing steep slopes. But for driving around town nothing to complain.

Now I'm driving a Mazda 3 and compared to the Optima I can certainly feel the difference in pickup when I want to drive spiritedly. But for normal driving not a lot of difference in feeling. So unless you are the type who likes to drive fast and furious a 2.0L D-segment should be adequate.

Buy what you like. The shape, the drive the whole thing, and not listen to what people say this is good or bad. Mazda 6 is awesome and the Accord is not bad but Camry drive like a sampan on highway...

you can get RM6-8k rebate on Accord VTI-L now if Im not mistaken. Even higher for the lowest spec VTI, which puts it on par with Civic TCP pricing.

Not sure about Camry though

The car itself is great enough, but if you put it into the perspective of how soon the new accord will be revealed and all the new techs Honda will throw at it, it makes it less appealing to settle for the current gen now

2c

2.0 GX camry this round , new gen engine and gear box . Its best on 2000cc range in malaysia . Downside the most expensive too rm160k otr 😑

This post has been edited by Actchan: Apr 22 2017, 11:36 PM

Thank you all sifu ... Camry GX got new engine ?

The 2.0 engine is called VVT-iW, originally from Lexus NX



http://www.motortrader.com.my/news/driving...yota-camry-2-0/

Accord 2.0 still has the old SOHC engine and 5 speed, the same as the new Perdana 2.0.

This post has been edited by Cubalagi: Apr 24 2017, 11:54 PM

Why not settle for Perdana 2.4 if you are only looking for just 2.0 in Camry/Accord due its price advantage?

Both are fine, very comfortable compared to my rocket wannabe tin can. If you can't enjoy the car then it's not the car's fault, it's you.

Isn't it the optima power do come out at higher rpm range?

Cz iinm the max torque quoted are at 4400 rpm

Agreed with ur suggestion.
Except some people do comment the interiors of new perdana is just too 2008-ish. There are only minor-minor changes done by proton, ie new hu and change interior theme color for 2.4.

Engine wise, k24 plus 5 gear auto do bring best for normal drive

Kia optima better

Because it is err.. a Proton?

At RM138K OTR for a 2.4 D Segment, the Perdana should be selling like goreng pisang panas. External looks wise not too bad also.

But I just dont see many of the new Perdanas on the road.

This post has been edited by Cubalagi: Apr 26 2017, 12:22 AM

I think the next gen Camry and Accord should be launching next year

If you can wait I think both are vastly improved over the current generation. Both in and out

btw just saw in youtube, even the newest camry in USA are not using LED backlight.

not sure if it is a basic spec

No VSC. Better go buy Honda Accord 2.4 second hand.


Anyway Camry VVT-iw d4-s engine should be better than Honda Accord 2.0 one.

perdana 2.4 have VSC. 2.0 dont have.

VVT-iw vs i-vtec, which one better?
since i-vtec + VTC do adjust the valve advance etc and valve opening closing(intake only), wheres VVT on the valve opening closing.

The 2.4 Perdana has. Only the 2.0 does not.

camry 2.0 GX quite nice..

Honda Accord (Proton Perdana) RM138k

Since it's already a 10 years old model, need to minus at least RM40-50k from there.

Because it's a Proton brand, need to minus another 20-30k from RRP

So the final price for Perdana 2.4L should be priced at around RM70k in order for people to buy. Even that it may not even sell also. I think people just wanna boycott this brand forever.

Depends on yer budget

RM130k? Civic turbo
RM150k? Accord Vti-L
RM170k? Camry Hybrid
RM190k? Passat 2.0 (hopefully VW gives generous discount)
RM210k? Mazda 6 2.2 Diesel

agreed by exterior not nice.
camry got new engine.

honda accord exterior is very nice

budget is accord VTI-L... but still old engine should i wait for 2018?
or just dont care

Simple straight forward answer = Wait

Your heart will scream so loud to get the accord now. You go and buy it. You'll definitely enjoy that moment. Yes I know the latest facelift looks nice, what more if you go all the way for the 2.4 variant.

But come 6 months later, the 10th gen accord will be announced - with a new design, new interior, new digital instrument cluster, new efficient turbo engine (perhaps) with better FC, new gearbox, new technology. Totally refined in every single way.

When that moment comes, you'll regret your current purchase and asked yourself why you couldn't wait just a lil bit more. You'll stuck with a fairly nice looking accord but inside is an old tech that was recycled since its iteration from 2004. You'll be stuck with it for the rest of your loan tenure, be it 3 or 5 or 7 or 9 years. Or you are actually a cash buyer then you can sell straight away lorr, but at the hit of a massive depreciation charge.

Spyshots suggest that the next gen accord has that 'sportback' treatment as well, surely relatively better suited for younger execs compared to the past ones.

Been eye-ing and waiting eagerly the new camry and new accord since my Honda City is barely fit in a family with 2 kids in car seat. Will more towards Camry after years driving Honda, I feel Toyota is much comfortable and NVH also better than Honda. Hope our UMW Malaysia not so cheapskate take out all the safety and features when comes to Malaysia
P/S 35 years old driving a Camry wouldn't considered Ah Pek right

This post has been edited by franson: May 4 2017, 10:16 AM

I bought an Accord when I was 32. It's a good car but when I checked out other Accord drivers, they were all in their 50s. The Camry probably appeals to drivers a little older than that.

If the Camry image bothers you, you could go for something trendier like the CRV or X-Trail.

Accord and Camry have always been considered as the uncle car in Malaysia, for those uncles who can't afford BMW 5 series or Merc E class. It's the affordable D segment

You can consider the Civic or Mazda 6 as it looks more sporty and premium than the other 2 mainstream.

Why not SUV like Forrester or HRV or the new CRV or Xtrail? They all look so much better than the current Camry and Accord.

Or you can wait for the new generation Camry and Accord which based on the online photo rendering look quite superb

the new accord doesnt look that uncle anymore. Sigh, i seldom see youngster driving D seg, probably because of its price point and the design itself.

Lol..young man ! These cars are for those uncles / aunties to go market and Pasar malam la! Most of them have jaguar, mercs and BMW park nicely at home ! So don't make assumptions ! A towkay with RR and driver choose to drive an almera to morning walk! He can buy a fleet of that!

if you ask me i'm torn too between this 2. i would look at mid-range Teana if comfort is your take and with 7 years warranty to back. then followed by Accord and Camry based on discounts given.

If I am not wrong, Accord is more expensive

Accord. Cheaper

7 years warranty is fake , only covers engine and drivetrain and must be serviced for all 7 years at hugely overpriced service centres

Better get a Honda if driving near road that is block! Haha


Anyway, I would still Camry for its overall refinement

Some say Jesus own accord.


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Many Ferarri and Lambo drivers in KL look like they in their 50s

I think doesn't matter how old u are. Buy a car that u can afford and meet your needs.

The Teana is so old like it already obsolete in other markets.

In Malaysia they give us Impulse bodykit and rim but pricey

Hahaha.

The Accord is obviously the devine option.

Better than nothing no? Gb n engine are always the one need tlc in the long run. I think all warranty also requires full service under the official service centers.

overpriced to the max

Agreed. Even Accord normal service requires those air conditioning filter at rm130

The majority of Accord, Camry and Teena are driven by middle-age or past middle age men because they have the means to buy them. However they should not be considered "uncle cars". If you are young and you drive one of these cars will people consider you an "uncle"? No, people will respect you as having the means to afford a D-segment car at a young age. Fetch your gf in them and you will impress your future mom-in-law far more than driving up in a Honda HRV. She's not going to think you are too "uncle" for her daughter just because you drive a car which is usually driven by people older than you.

On another note the term "uncle" is usually used in a slightly derogatory way nowadays to indicate an older and old-fashioned person who you would not want to associate with. It's not a good feeling to be called uncle nowadays (sigh).


This post has been edited by Ginny88: May 7 2017, 08:55 PM

The 9th gen Accord have hardest suspension among D segment u have mentioned.

Not sure if it due to 18" tyre size.

anyhow, you cannot go wrong with these 2 cars
it is meant to be used, and abused, with no worries

most obvious differences are in the way honda n toyota drives n behaves
one is beneficial for you the driver, latter is for passenger

so who you trying to impress? You, or your future mother in law?

yeah, for me i think it's better to consider mazda 6 and volkswagen passat, for the mazda 6, they just launch the GVC system, I admit that the feeling is really better compare to the other 2 TS is comparing. On the passat side, the car feels solid and spacious yet lots of features, power and safety also up to date. That's my 2 cent la.

Mazda 6, drives nicer IMO.

TS go test drive and feel the car's dynamics.

New Mazda 6 with GVC is pricier at RM170k just for 2.0 version.

At the price still fit with halogen lamps

And only 3 year warranty

It's the suspension set up too. I have one. I bought it for a few reasons. One of them was that it was the best handling of the 3 Japanese D segment cars in my budget (Honda, Toyota and Nissan).

The Mazda 6 2.0 was 'kosong' and the 2.5 was out of my budget. They didn't have a mid-spec version like the other 3 at the time (2011).

Sorry bro honda accord and camry cannot sprint 0 to 100 in 9 seconds la

Hahaahah depends la now a days uncle also can get hot ahmoi la depends on what type catogery uncle la

gg necro tered

when is camry going to be launched?