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simple person
post Jun 3 2010, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Jun 2 2010, 05:59 PM)
To be ? ..it will never happen coz my company is already the "Leaders in Oil and Gas Multinational Of Choice"
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U r from? exxon mobil? or aramco?
the biggest IOC or biggest NOC?
hehe...then muz b "maintain as Leaders in Oil and Gas Multinational Of Choice" will b de vision lo


Added on June 3, 2010, 10:56 pm
QUOTE(emptycube @ Jun 2 2010, 11:24 PM)
im going to tender my resignation after they annouce the bonus...

cant seems to get it right, im from tech background and placed on non tech post... got a project post, denied...and again being denied for another tech post..eventho the receiving party wanted me in...but the fact that releasing party must first "allow" it...

heck... enough is enough with all those policy of transferring and enough with all the sweet promises... when the time come the bosses said..."u need to understand the business needs for our department"

duh...jumping back to my old industry... eventho the workload is double but im happy there...
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Tender resignation? it seems like u r facing same problem which I faced it previously.
Ya lo, the releasing party muz allow then only can hav a 2nd thought.
anyway, think twice b4 resigning...is not easy to get into ler.
all de best smile.gif

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post Jun 4 2010, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(simple person @ Jun 3 2010, 10:53 PM)
U r from? exxon mobil? or aramco?
the biggest IOC or biggest NOC?
hehe...then muz b "maintain as Leaders in Oil and Gas Multinational Of Choice"  will b de vision lo


Added on June 3, 2010, 10:56 pm

Tender resignation? it seems like u r facing same problem which I faced it previously.
Ya lo, the releasing party muz allow then only can hav a 2nd thought.
anyway, think twice b4 resigning...is not easy to get into ler.
all de best  smile.gif
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its been 2 years..and its even harder if once ur in E2 and jump to other SKG...

i've been trying hard...project post denied...confirm tech post rquire 3 ppl..denied again..

accepting party more than happy to accept me...but releasing haish...

im stuck at this part of malaysia...whereby most of the ppl here are very close-minded type of ppl... WELL its not really a big deal but its add up to my frustration,
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post Jun 4 2010, 02:45 AM

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QUOTE(emptycube @ Jun 4 2010, 12:23 AM)
its been 2 years..and its even harder if once ur in E2 and jump to other SKG...

i've been trying hard...project post denied...confirm tech post rquire 3 ppl..denied again..

accepting party more than happy to accept me...but releasing haish...

im stuck at this part of malaysia...whereby most of the ppl here are very close-minded type of ppl... WELL its not really a big deal but its add up to my frustration,
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My wild guess- u r in Kertih?
Care to describe the lifestyle over there?

Compared to KL city what are the pro & con?


Added on June 4, 2010, 2:56 am
QUOTE(emptycube @ Jun 2 2010, 11:24 PM)
im going to tender my resignation after they annouce the bonus...

cant seems to get it right, im from tech background and placed on non tech post... got a project post, denied...and again being denied for another tech post..eventho the receiving party wanted me in...but the fact that releasing party must first "allow" it...

heck... enough is enough with all those policy of transferring and enough with all the sweet promises... when the time come the bosses said..."u need to understand the business needs for our department"

duh...jumping back to my old industry... eventho the workload is double but im happy there...
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Care to share what month they normaly release the bonus?
Same for all OPU?

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post Jun 4 2010, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(prakashpj82 @ Jun 4 2010, 02:45 AM)
My wild guess- u r in Kertih?
Care to describe the lifestyle over there?

Compared to KL city what are the pro & con?


Added on June 4, 2010, 2:56 am
Care to share what month they normaly release the bonus?
Same for all OPU?
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lifestyle, if u prefer calm and no jam place it the place to be...i love it....but if ur really city type person...its not suitable lah

just most of the ppl here are ...well as mentioned earlier .....more towards *minded type of person....

bonus...usually will be on month of <PM me> payroll but its all depends on president announcement aswell.

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simple person
post Jun 4 2010, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(emptycube @ Jun 4 2010, 12:23 AM)
its been 2 years..and its even harder if once ur in E2 and jump to other SKG...

i've been trying hard...project post denied...confirm tech post rquire 3 ppl..denied again..

accepting party more than happy to accept me...but releasing haish...

im stuck at this part of malaysia...whereby most of the ppl here are very close-minded type of ppl... WELL its not really a big deal but its add up to my frustration,
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Agree with u...it is hard to b jumped to other department if ur boss says "NO".
It will be even worse for those in E2. (from non-technical to technical, the other way i dunno)
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post Jun 4 2010, 07:22 PM

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hi simple person, u've been in my situation thus you know hows the birocratic process right?...

anyway its a decision of my future tho... since this company do have the unwritten policy on whoever resign cant join back kind of thing.

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post Jun 4 2010, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(emptycube @ Jun 4 2010, 07:22 PM)
hi simple person, u've been in my situation thus you know hows the birocratic process right?...

anyway its a decision of my future tho... since this company do have the unwritten policy on whoever resign cant join back kind of thing.
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That's what I heard as well, similar to other GLCs.. the door only swings one way. Heard also about the controversial husband&wife/dual career policy. Is it true?
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post Jun 5 2010, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(emptycube @ Jun 4 2010, 07:22 PM)
hi simple person, u've been in my situation thus you know hows the birocratic process right?...

anyway its a decision of my future tho... since this company do have the unwritten policy on whoever resign cant join back kind of thing.
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hi emptycube,
that's true, once quit...cannot join bac. (base on wat they said last time)
however, i heard some of them mentioned that de policy has changed. (after new president take place)
anyway, im not sure abt dat...bcoz base on my SM said, dis policy still remain unchanged. (hence, no exact ans)
wat to do, aim for wat u wan or doin something u dun like? is a tough decision.
depends on wat v wan in life...definitely have to let go 1...mayb in future there will b a better 1 right in front.
BUT thk carefully b4 decision has been made...

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post Jun 5 2010, 06:40 AM

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QUOTE(depster666 @ Jun 4 2010, 11:12 PM)
That's what I heard as well, similar to other GLCs.. the door only swings one way. Heard also about the controversial husband&wife/dual career policy. Is it true?
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Yes it is. It is not clear why but some say bcoz they want to eliminate the bias claim.
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post Jun 6 2010, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(emptycube @ Jun 4 2010, 11:02 AM)
lifestyle, if u prefer calm and no jam place it the place to be...i love it....but if ur really city type person...its not suitable lah

just most of the ppl here are ...well as mentioned earlier .....more towards *minded type of person....

bonus...usually will be on month of <PM me> payroll but its all depends on president announcement aswell.
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Hey, at least you are in peninsular where a few hours of drive or bus ride will take you to KL. Imagine being in Bintulu or Labuan
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post Jun 6 2010, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(hanjo55 @ Jun 6 2010, 10:55 AM)
Hey, at least you are in peninsular where a few hours of drive or bus ride will take you to KL. Imagine being in Bintulu or Labuan
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should i requote m,y statement??

i love the environment here eh,,,
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post Jun 7 2010, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(emptycube @ Jun 6 2010, 10:23 PM)
should i requote m,y statement??

i love the environment here eh,,,
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haha, then u shld thk even clearer on wat u wan lo.
if not, later regret then there is no return d ler... smile.gif
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post Jun 7 2010, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(SPS @ May 15 2010, 11:24 PM)
Let's cut the crap, shall we?  You are levelling unfounded accusations against audit firms and yet denying that an UMNO controlled GLC is non-discriminatory?  You think the forummers here crawled out from some frigging rock?  rolleyes.gif

i think u re damn racist and stupid..only u are right and the others all wrong.


Added on May 15, 2010, 11:27 pm
Don't mutter bullcrap here, ok?  There are no DUAL citizenship rights for Malaysians.
Wantto challenge me?..i have facts and don't say that u know everything BS.


Added on May 15, 2010, 11:30 pm
Who the hell are you to tell others to quit complaining and get lost from Malaysia?  Got that from the school of umnoputras?
Why u link me with umnoputras..all shit and u as well. Seems that u never learn from history..go f#$k yourself dude..u just know how to BS others, but can not accept BS by others.


Added on May 15, 2010, 11:48 pm
More BS from the likes of you - GLCs in Malaysia practise a Bumiputera Vendor Development programme that only develops vendors from MALAYS only.  At the most, non-Malay vendors can only resort to Ali Baba partnerships if they wish to secure business with Petronas or any GLC for that matter.
Even there are some cases like u mentioned, it's still benefited the non malay. From what u write, u are the type of people who want it all..i think when PM is non malay, TPM is non malay, all the GLC headed by non-malay, all the goverment directors are from non malay and all the top man are from non-malay then u will stop cursing and talking shit like this.

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post Jun 8 2010, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(emptycube @ Jun 6 2010, 10:23 PM)
should i requote m,y statement??

i love the environment here eh,,,
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Nah... I got what u mean up there. Cheers!
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post Jun 9 2010, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(simple person @ Jun 7 2010, 01:41 AM)
haha, then u shld thk even clearer on wat u wan lo.
if not, later regret then there is no return d ler... smile.gif
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i know,,, something worst beyond my expectation happened yesterday which as up the push factor... paiseh..

well i guess i've made my decision..working with these company is really good howver. depends on the crowd you were placed.... and yes office politics is a must to survive...being straight outspoken and honest (attitude) will lead to the situation as what im ffacing now....

initially wanted to wait for bonus...but heck..im tendering tomoro

QUOTE(hanjo55 @ Jun 8 2010, 02:28 PM)
Nah... I got what u mean up there. Cheers!
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hehe cheers mate

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post Jun 9 2010, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(emptycube @ Jun 9 2010, 05:51 PM)
i know,,, something worst beyond my expectation happened yesterday which as up the push factor... paiseh..

well i guess i've made my decision..working with these company is really good howver. depends on the crowd you were placed.... and yes office politics is a must to survive...being straight outspoken and honest (attitude) will lead to the situation as what im ffacing now....

initially wanted to wait for bonus...but heck..im tendering tomoro
hehe cheers mate
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Push factor...basically i agree with dat, bcoz i oso wrote dat as a reason when i quit.
office politic is there oso. it seems like u n me r same type of person. (but i thk all company is having politic issues somehow)
being too honest n straight will lead us into trouble. situation bcm even worse if big boss n boss are not "on same ship".
wat to do...haha. juz bear in mind, do our job n perform nicely lo.
Since u had make a decision, respect ur decision. FYI, there r lot of job opening now...i guess u can easily get 1 since u have years of experiences.
i read an article, sometimes...majority of ppl left a company bcoz of his/her superiors rather than the company benefits.

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post Jun 9 2010, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(simple person @ Jun 9 2010, 07:06 PM)
Push factor...basically i agree with dat, bcoz i oso wrote dat as a reason when i quit.
office politic is there oso. it seems like u n me r same type of person. (but i thk all company is having politic issues somehow)
being too honest n straight will lead us into trouble. situation bcm even worse if big boss n boss are not "on same ship".
wat to do...haha. juz bear in mind, do our job n perform nicely lo.
Since u had make a decision, respect ur decision. FYI, there r lot of job opening now...i guess u can easily get 1 since u have years of experiences.
i read an article, sometimes...majority of ppl left a company bcoz of his/her superiors rather than the company benefits.
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thx for your reply bro,


it seems like im not alone in this departing boat.. there are other boats which already departed due to same reason,

tender notice is 3 months.... darn... but i have to start looking for a job now or else i'll be forking out my savings to pay my debts..

to simple person = going to pm you some personal questions soon, by tonite i'll shoot it..
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post Jun 9 2010, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(emptycube @ Jun 9 2010, 07:29 PM)
thx for your reply bro,
it seems like im not alone in this departing boat.. there are other boats which already departed due to same reason,

tender notice is 3 months.... darn... but i have to start looking for a job now or else i'll be forking out my savings to pay my debts..

to simple person = going to pm you some personal questions soon, by tonite i'll shoot it..
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Just read an article where "NOCs today were facing stark reality of talent shortage that might hamper its long-term growth strategy if left unresolved."
I believe most fresh graduates like me are eagerly to join this field (especially engineering part where involves different kind of technical concepts) and apply what they have learned in tertiary edu. into the REAL WORKING WORLD. Freshies are willing to learn as we know every1 need to be equipped by real experiences in order to b an expertise in particular field.
Actually is quite sad to read that. Do we ever question ourselves why we are still facing of talent shortage? I guess this is the main issue where HR should really think about it.
1st: Position right candidate in the right position (how? base on their qualification, as simple as that)
2nd: Track on new employees' point of view / suggestion during their probation period (whether is this position suit them)
3rd: Realign the issues and do rearrangement
4th: Counseling
5th: ...................
Wonder if I'm in HR, will I still have this kind of perception? haha. may be they have their own judgment/concern too.
The manpower hasn't been properly utilized...my personal view only...hehe
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post Jun 9 2010, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(simple person @ Jun 9 2010, 11:16 PM)
Just read an article where "NOCs today were facing stark reality of talent shortage that might hamper its long-term growth strategy if left unresolved."
I believe most fresh graduates like me are eagerly to join this field (especially engineering part where involves different kind of technical concepts) and apply what they have learned in tertiary edu. into the REAL WORKING WORLD. Freshies are willing to learn as we know every1 need to be equipped by real experiences in order to b an expertise in particular field.
Actually is quite sad to read that. Do we ever question ourselves why we are still facing of talent shortage? I guess this is the main issue where HR should really think about it.
1st: Position right candidate in the right position (how? base on their qualification, as simple as that)
2nd: Track on new employees' point of view / suggestion during their probation period (whether is this position suit them)
3rd: Realign the issues and do rearrangement
4th: Counseling
5th: ...................
Wonder if I'm in HR, will I still have this kind of perception? haha. may be they have their own judgment/concern too.
The manpower hasn't been properly utilized...my personal view only...hehe
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let me answer it on HR point of view at the place where am i working because every E3 Sg ppl is a HR manager/change agent, part of the initiative start by the HR here

I will tell you what usually happened in PETRONAS

1) which PETRONAS, i would say in general especially the HR OPU's failed to do, they took the recommended candidate from the pool and simply fill the vacant position (especially position for these 3 particular department HR, Supply Chain and Performance Integirty). reason behind it, its the HR department KPI not to have vacant position for more than 3 months. Thus creating lotsa problem ie; Freshie in technical background (IT)/Business field experienced candidates being placed in the department which got nothing to do with their past working experienced/studies.

2) The tracking mechanism is there, but please be informed that for freshie (uspecially for those whom bonded with petronas scholar) have no choice, even if they voice it out, the HR answer it somehow like "another requesting for transfer case" attitude. and freshie whom is not bonded they are too afraid to let it go since they had joined PETRONAS..Most of it.....as for experienced entry (like me) i did voice it out, but their answer will be "there is no vacant Box for your placement, sorry we cant accomodate your request, even if you did find the box on your own, the boss will not release you (most cases)

3) they called it feasibility studies on position, which they did every 3 years previously, and the new president give a hint to do it every year since the industry is moving fast... but i do not know what is it nor see any difference accept for the new rem packages.

4) Counselling, it will be USELESS if engage the counselor from PETRONAS as they wont really hear you as they are tied to company policy. thus whatever advice they give will be pro company....

5) Retention strategy...... to avoid any attrition cases due to better offer from other company or pinching activity by other company..the result is as of now PETRONAS is doing revision and had it implemented starting this month, will better package to executive staff

6) Manpower utilization, HR job is ssubmit the position description together with on the job relevancy by line department to GTCM every year. GTCm will evaluate it and check whether it is under utilized, over utlized or OK, if under utilized usually will lead to box deletion, over utilized lead to box addition and ok means stano.

hope i answered your questions from HR point of view in PETRONAS...

eventho im quitting the company but still there are some statement i've made which defending this company, i have to admit the company is great! but depends on which crowd you were in.

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post Jun 10 2010, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(emptycube @ Jun 9 2010, 11:59 PM)
let me answer it on HR point of view at the place where am i working because every E3 Sg ppl is a HR manager/change agent, part of the initiative start by the HR here

I will tell you what usually happened in PETRONAS

1) which PETRONAS, i would say in general especially the HR OPU's failed to do, they took the recommended candidate from the pool and simply fill the vacant position (especially position for these 3 particular department HR, Supply Chain and Performance Integirty). reason behind it, its the HR department KPI not to have vacant position for more than 3 months. Thus creating lotsa problem ie; Freshie in technical background (IT)/Business field experienced candidates being placed in the department which got nothing to do with their past working experienced/studies.

2) The tracking mechanism is there, but please be informed that for freshie (uspecially for those whom bonded with petronas scholar) have no choice, even if they voice it out, the HR answer it somehow like  "another requesting for transfer case" attitude. and freshie whom is not bonded they are too afraid to let it go since they had joined PETRONAS..Most of it.....as for experienced entry (like me) i did voice it out, but their answer will be "there is no vacant Box for your placement, sorry we cant accomodate your request, even if you did find the box on your own, the boss will not release you (most cases)

3) they called it feasibility studies on position, which they did every 3 years previously, and the new president give a hint to do it every year since the industry is moving fast... but i do not know what is it nor see any difference accept for the new rem packages.

4) Counselling, it will be USELESS if engage the counselor from PETRONAS as they wont really hear you as they are tied to company policy. thus whatever advice they give will be pro company....

5) Retention strategy...... to avoid any attrition cases due to better offer from other company or pinching activity by other company..the result is as of now PETRONAS is doing revision and had it implemented starting this month, will better package to executive staff

6) Manpower utilization, HR job is ssubmit the position description together with on the job relevancy by line department to GTCM every year. GTCm will evaluate it and check whether it is under utilized, over utlized or OK, if under utilized usually will lead to box deletion, over utilized lead to box addition and ok means stano.

hope i answered your questions from HR point of view in PETRONAS...

eventho im quitting the company but still there are some statement i've made which defending this company, i have to admit the company is great! but depends on which crowd you were in.
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Agree, it is a great company...i juz feel if position can be fulfilled by right candidate, that will be a great advantage for PETRONAS.


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