nope cause they said u key in wrong add ......
collecting it later....

This.

There's also the Sony VTCs and the Sammy Pinks (30Q). Personally I've been through the Chocos (HG2), the Sammy Greens/Pinks and the Sony VTC6. If I need to pick one it's a toss between the Sammy Pink and the VTC6 for high-cap, medium load Vaping, though the Chocos aren't a bad substitute (and might even be the better choice economically speaking, considering they're often cheaper).

And to be serious, even the Sammy greens aren't bad, but to be honest at the "normal" Vaping loads (say 0.4-0.5 ohm, 60-ish watts) we're subjecting these cells to, it's just not feasible for you to expect a single battery (ANY battery) to be able to give you a full straight day of constant Vaping.

Hence multi-cell Mods. Though those do come with their can of worms as well (marrying batteries etc etc).

Also, try to shy away from rewraps IF POSSIBLE (efest/AMT/Basen/whatcamacallit) if not simply due to the fact that you don't really know what's under the wraps... and even if you do, there's really no guarantee that they will Keep USING those same cells for every batch of their batts. NOT TO MENTION the RIDICULOUS ratings they keep putting on their wraps.

If possible lah, coz sometimes the only batts you have being sold around you in an emergency situation are AMTs and Efests. If in doubt, Google "Mooch Battery Recommendations" and follow what the guy says.

As for Mods, I'm personally a DNA guy simply because I haven't had any DNA Mods fail on me yet (chip-wise) and because I like the PC customization options - which are often overkill for normal Vapers.

I've also heard a lot of good things as of late about Smoant Mods (Battlestar and the like) and the Omni chip they've got in some Vaporesso Mods out there at the moment so those are valid options too.

As for Eleaf/Wismec/Joyetech products. Well, if you buy them expecting for them to last a while, don't. They all work fine but are constructed pretty crap and are bound to fail in one way or another after a while - which could very well be a loooong while depending on your luck.

For example, my Eleaf Pico barely lasted me a year while my VTC Mini is still ticking fine.

But for the prices they're going at, they are fine generally. Except for the Wismec Pred, which has a completely shit 510 connector even by Joyetech standards.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Jul 5 2017, 07:59 PM

I am kinda the Kilo OG series guy and have been constantly hook on Tru Blu, though i have vape everything in the OG line. Naked 100 Lava Flow is my other alternative.

How would u rate honey cream and birthday cake ? been very curious about those.

I got my juice from shopee (planetofthevapes, this guy have been great and legit ) only, as i live out of town.

30Q is 15amp discharge but constant .....
VTC, sorry bro i know that battery doesn't make by Sony (sony don't have the facility) and Sony don't sell it at all (VTC 18650) for their internal use only, mostly for their laptop), after Sony discontinue their mobile pc, not sure where that battery from ....

wait one day free, i setup my 18650 test device (been lock in wardrobe for some times )


btw i just take out my two clopour mini and it still working strong ... but firing is a bit slow compare to modern device.

This post has been edited by SonnyCooL: Jul 5 2017, 08:03 PM

Birthday cake smell is good but taste wise a bit funny, is a bit hit and miss type ....
Honey cream is smooth and steady flavor but i going to stop it soon (been vaping honey cream for last three month)

30q is Mooch tested to 20a CDR, which is a fact. Not that I push it that far anyway. But I do know it gets less hot (to the touch) than my Chocos under the same load... but then again my LG Chocos, while Ori, might not be B-grade even (they're possibly C-grades looking at how they perform).

As for the VTCs, again I follow Mooch specs (which is actually WORSE than the 30q for the VTC6s) and the fact that again it gets less hot than my Chocos under the same load - my possibly not so high grade Chocos ler.

As for Sony making them or not, well, I've heard stuff along those lines as well though they haven't actually fully stopped making Vaios (they just sold the line to a Japanese company which is still making Vaios actually - this is a fact and is easily checked).

What's below goes into the realm of Internet Speculation however:

A lot of folks on the Net has come to the conclusion that Sony is still making lithium-ion cells, really. They just NEVER WANT TO BE BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE for people using them loose outside of packs. EVER. I mean they're gonna be legally liable if someone blows up Vaping/Flashlighting on one of their batts, right? Which will not happen if they disown production to begin with.

So, what about the "earthquake closing factories" news doing the rounds? There are similar news of them simply packing up and moving their 18650 factories overseas. Or that the Sony Koriyama Plant in Fukushima (to be specific - as that's the Sony plant my VTC6s came out from according to the markings) has simply started to churn out batts again. So yeah.

There's also this: https://goo.gl/vvg3NW . However, it's a vendor site so yeah, it might be as much true as it isn't.

Finally, as for them not selling them loose... well when there's a will, there's a way. If there's demand, someone somewhere will be able to get hold of these batts for sure lol.

Again, the above is what the Net has generally agreed on. Whether or not it's truth I'll leave it to your discretion.

In the end, truth remains that I don't actually have insider knowledge on battery supply nor the skills to test batteries myself so what do I know lol. And Chocos are STILL the BEST in terms of value IMHO anyway, so they're not without their merits.

I mean, if I loose my VTC6s anytime soon I might just spring for Chocos myself if I can't get 30Qs. Especially if I can get a guaranteed supply of higher then C-Grade cells.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Jul 5 2017, 09:06 PM

Just clean my car boot and found this.

Any one intrested ?
asking for rm 50 + pos.
each.

That's a nice set of tools bro. How big is the bag?

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Jul 5 2017, 09:08 PM

very small only ... later after finish my dinner i snap more photo ...

Here more photo.
White a4 back ground

Try ownself do once and you will chckle at your own statement

Because of vape, some how force my self in to battery industry (good money and crazy volume at those day ) else i knew shit abt battery .....
that not only rumors, also a lot restriction abt battery
for example, you see all battery ship/export out from HK but no china,jap or malaysia (yes malaysia does produce some highend battery (samsung and panasonic) + a lot more .....

btw is very hard for you to get B rated battery in the market, i believe they use this as own product or selling off to highend market .....

Common consumers just dont appreciate the complexity in battery. They best question they can conjure up is "boss which battery is best for vaping".
A part from lithium based batteries, there are lipo, life… I probly get a PhD in chemistry by the time I could list all batteries and what they are best for.
For regulated mod, Just to make life safe and simple I will use Samsung 30q，Sony VTC6, LG Hg2 . for single cell 50w duty. If I must do more, I will do 2 cell up to 100w. 3 cells up to 150w.
Never came across Panasonic NCR type, but it should shine with under 15w use.
The highest priority on my list is looking for genuine, ori battery. Not the amp rating and mah printed on the battery.
Mooch's list comes highly recommended. But I prefer to stick to my Samsung, lg and Sony list... And they are cheap too, RM 30 is the highest I ever paid for any of them genuine one.

As for unregulated mod, If you must ask what type of battery to use, you are most certainly better of not using any unregulated mod or Mech mod… cos u donno ohms law and this will get you into some potentially dangerous battery failures… and I dont want get into liability lawsuit when someone blow their face off…
cannot teach over a few paragraphs of posting, there are tons of YouTube's and tutorial all over the web, don't be lazy for your own safety sake, go read up.

This post has been edited by KenC: Jul 6 2017, 12:23 AM

Well, that is unfortunately very true, though at the very beginning - when Chocos were slowly entering the limelight and Mooch first tested one - there were actually B-Grade stocks going around. Hence the results of his initial testing (which is neck to neck if not superior to the 30Q and the VTC6).

After that, demand boomed. Supply can't cope and the clones hit hard. Thankfully more Oris started appearing again afterwards but they were mostly C-Grades by then.

But even C-Grade Chocos (Oris) are still better by spec then the typical Samsung 25R (most of the time), so if you can find them cheap, they're still good cells.

And yeah export issues are a real thing, at least due to ICAO and IATA going apeshit over lithium-ion cell air cargo carriage starting from sometime in 2015, leading to the "Great FT/GB Battery Shipment Circus" of last year. Hell, the whole Explodo-Note 7 hoohaa didn't make things any easier for us either lol.

And yeah, if anybody noticed, last year was the year that the whole "li-ion batts MUST be in carry-on and CANNOT be checked in and even then it must be of a certain mAh total" rule came into effect as well, thanks to ICAO and IATA.

At least I can STILL carry my cells abroad so I'm not totally complaining though. Even if FDA and WHO's crazy anti-vape agenda is making the list of countries I can carry those cells (and the vape stuff they power) to smaller with each passing day.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Jul 6 2017, 01:03 AM

TRUE! SO TRUE! AS A RESELLER!

I don't sell any mechanical mods at all because of this issue. Used to sell back in the years when vaping is hype.

Too many wise ass who just don't understand the technical part of mechanical mods and batteries. Just know how to show off with cloud chasing ended up stop vaping cause of ignorance.

I'm selling IPV D3 with Subtank happily with positive customer feedback who just wants to avoid smoking cigarettes.

Cause in the end of the day for me, JUICE plays the bigger part for vape. Hardware are more for the aficionados.

Happen where a customer of mind using such an expensive setup but having weak liquids, then ended vaping because he thought that vaping is full of con artist when he chose all the things he wants.

Grrr, this is so similar to my shisha years.

Check back my old photo, yup all c grade.
Do u believe that, those box of battery is only for one day supply in kl market ..... Crazy time.
Btw those c grade still reach 2900-3000 mah, b grade will reach 3100 .....

i takut leh wanna coil mech mod. after explode la all that.

ohms law pulak damn hard don't understand

science stream education all give back to school already

Homaigod, much capacity. Very Choco.

Thar is some serious metal you've got there mate.

that is daily transaction (those day), that why i need to go deep on it .... i still miss those day, especially the money