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post Jun 8 2007, 10:24 AM

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I place the newspaper on a tray, so wont dirty the floor. Then i place a piece on non-slip mat on top of the paper now. The pee on the newspaper wont soaked into the paper fast rite, so easy to kena the leg and splash on the floor. If got the non slip mat on top, not easy to kena leg, and beause got weight ontop of the paper, the paper wont fly again, and wont splash on the florr easily. For poo, if i notice FIFI wanna poo, I'll just place a piece of tissue below her but, let the poo drop on it, then pick up, buang.
If i din noticed her, still she will poo on the mat. But her poo hard mah, so wont stain the mat, just pick up, bungkus, then kasih buang..........
I wash and sun the mat every Saturday to keep it clean.
If FIFi is allowed to run free the house, she wont chew the newspaper. If i put her in the play pen, which is near the paper,although got 3 or 4 toys for her, she still will drag the paper in, then tear it, makan also.
If i put her in the play pen, then she poo in it, she will makan poo also. If outside, she wont.......
I think because she is boring, nothing to do.....so find special things to do.
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post Jun 8 2007, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Jun 8 2007, 10:08 AM)
Newspaper wont leak provided you be generous with it. I put like 20 pieces each on a 2x2, each slightly overlapping one another and mop the floor twice a day.

The black ink wont stain the floor because at most, the pee with soak only through 5 - 8 pieces of paper unless you leave it too long, then you are asking for trouble, the whole newspaper will soak through.

If they eat the newspaper, means that they dont have anything to chew. Please buy him some Greenies or Denta-Stix to chew. It is good for his teeth, stronger, less smelly, etc.
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20 piesces means very thick lor..
i don hv enuf space 2 put so much papers..staying wif another 4 housemates..660ft oni da apartment..

papers r their favourite toy..
i bought plastic toy shoes, jerhigh snacks, alpo snacks, rubber toys, kids' pacifiers.. they play wif them very often..but once they see a piece of paper on da floor..will end up..
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bad experience wif greenies..
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post Jun 8 2007, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Jun 8 2007, 01:22 AM)
My dog is considered a fast learner but I dont have much time to teach him. Anyway, he learn to do his business on newspaper about 4 months after I got him.

4 newspaper, size of The Star, scattered in 2 by 2 size. But sometimes, he still miss. When I let him out, he sometimes misfire on the floor also. But now big already, he also dont pee / poo that often so not so stress while wiping off the floor.
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Why don't you buy a tray size of 3 x 4 feet and put the new paper on it. It will be much more easy for you to clean the tray than mopping the floor.
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post Jun 8 2007, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ Jun 8 2007, 10:24 AM)
I place the newspaper on a tray, so wont dirty the floor. Then i place a piece on non-slip mat on top of the paper now. The pee on the newspaper wont soaked into the paper fast rite, so easy to kena the leg and splash on the floor. If got the non slip mat on top, not easy to kena leg, and beause got weight ontop of the paper, the paper wont fly again, and wont splash on the florr easily. For poo, if i notice FIFI wanna poo, I'll just place a piece of tissue below her but, let the poo drop on it, then pick up, buang.
If i din noticed her, still she will poo on the mat. But her poo hard mah, so wont stain the mat, just pick up, bungkus, then kasih buang..........
I wash and sun the mat every Saturday to keep it clean.
If FIFi is allowed to run free the house, she wont chew the newspaper. If i put her in the play pen, which is near the paper,although got 3 or 4 toys for her,  she still will drag the paper in, then tear it, makan also.
If i put her in the play pen, then she poo in it, she will makan poo also. If outside, she wont.......
I think because she is boring, nothing to do.....so find special things to do.
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I think I can imagine your set up. I had a non-slip mat too but then I decided not to use it because its quite troublesome. It's heavy, the pee goes through and soak the newspaper. It smells later on so I decided to use the non-slip mat as a platform for him to stand properly while showering, so he does not slip and fall.

Casper wont eat his poo. He pees and poos on the papers. Poo never miss but pee sometimes he will miss. He still havent take up one leg to pee, squat and pee even though he is a male. 7 months old.

Yes, if pee on newspaper, quite easy kena leg but my play pen is fixed to the cage. My setup is [Cage]==| . I put 4 pieces of play pen, two on each side. This way, my house dog is like a runway. I place the newspaper furthest away from his cage. So its [cage][play place][newspaper].


QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ Jun 8 2007, 10:30 AM)
20 piesces means very thick lor..
i don hv enuf space 2 put so much papers..staying wif another 4 housemates..660ft oni da apartment..

papers r their favourite toy..
i bought plastic toy shoes, jerhigh snacks, alpo snacks, rubber toys, kids' pacifiers.. they play wif them very often..but once they see a piece of paper on da floor..will end up..
swt..
bad experience wif greenies..
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Yea, it is quite thick. 20 pieces is quite thick correct, its better to let the dog use than to sell off to the old-newspaper-man.

I think you should train your dog not to bite paper. My dog used to do that, damn teruk some more. When I bought the wee wee pads from White Palace. I put 4 pieces in the evening and overnight, all become cotton flying around the house cause he rip it to shreds. Thats why I decided to use newspaper, cheaper and thicker, harder to bite.

I think you just need to find more things to put into the cage so he does not bite. Else, use the newspaper to scare him. Then he wont pee on newspaper, right? After that, place the newspaper on the ground, over the span of 3 - 5 days, always lure him to the newspaper with treats. As long as he step on the newspaper, just treat him. This way my dog stopped biting the papers already.


Added on June 8, 2007, 11:11 am
QUOTE(chrisoys @ Jun 8 2007, 10:58 AM)
Why don't you buy a tray size of 3 x 4 feet and put the new paper on it. It will be much more easy for you to clean the tray than mopping the floor.
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Where to buy ah?? I never seen something that big before but I would like to purchase it if you can tell me where I can find one. Thanks.

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post Jun 8 2007, 11:23 AM

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will try 2nite..
damn tired washing those trays..
sked my housemates don like cos if poo pee on da papers sure got smell..
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QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ Jun 8 2007, 09:59 AM)
when i was about 2 reply these posts..he pooped n he licked them..dunno whether he ate or not..wonder y til now he still eats his poop.. i'll use spray cleaner..spray on da floor, den wipe it off..if its too dirty, i'll wipe, den mop da floor.
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y dogs like to lick or eat their own poo.. spray cleaner isit those buy frm supermarket, like easy off bang? lol.. or those housebreaking aid? so tat the dog wont go back to the wrong place to poo again.

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post Jun 8 2007, 02:30 PM

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i dunno y my both pups oso squat wor..

i buy those from giant.. biocare green colour thingy..
easy 2 clean off..housebreaking aids r too expensive..
wanted 2 use vinegar but i;'ll vomit everytime i smell it..
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post Jun 8 2007, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ Jun 8 2007, 02:30 PM)
i dunno y my both pups oso squat wor..

i buy those from giant.. biocare green colour thingy..
easy 2 clean off..housebreaking aids r too expensive..
wanted 2 use vinegar but i;'ll vomit everytime i smell it..
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jack jack also squat ah??? almost 1 yr old liao wor....mature loh wor....no marking here n there meh?

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wth!!!

mature liao will do marking??!!

i din noe dat..


he's 8months old now..
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post Jun 8 2007, 02:52 PM

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is it really true that male dogs will open one leg up to pee when they reach adulthood ?? ?_?
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post Jun 8 2007, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(Syrian @ Jun 8 2007, 02:52 PM)
is it really true that male dogs will open one leg up to pee when they reach adulthood ?? ?_?
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yo syrian , long time no chat with u on schnauzer thread, so u bck from hometown edi?
or still at hometown ?

hmm i mention tat my friend shihtzu mix around 1 yrs old then open one leg and pee edi wo

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QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ Jun 8 2007, 02:46 PM)
wth!!!

mature liao will do marking??!!

i din noe dat..
he's 8months old now..
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Of course lah...but still can be trained....thats y i bought a female mah.......
But female got heat problem also, but nvrmind, only for 3 weeks.

QUOTE(Syrian @ Jun 8 2007, 02:52 PM)
is it really true that male dogs will open one leg up to pee when they reach adulthood ?? ?_?
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Yes ah. Unless u neutered the male dog at around 6 months old, before he matured, then will continue squat down and pee.
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post Jun 8 2007, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(chrisoys @ Jun 8 2007, 11:30 AM)
I got 2pcs of 3 x 4 tray from Pet Safari at Ikano. I place an order about few month only got it. I think not many ppls are looking for a tray. Usually tray come with cage that why petshop don't sell or order this stock separately.

You can go to Ikano Pet Safari and check it out whether they still got the try or not. They place the tray at the back of the shop near where they put all the cages for sales.
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Ok, coincidentally, I am going there tomorrow, I will be sure to check it out. thank you.

QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Jun 8 2007, 11:42 AM)
y dogs like to lick or eat their own poo.. spray cleaner isit those buy frm supermarket, like easy off bang? lol.. or those housebreaking aid? so tat the dog wont go back to the wrong place to poo again.


Added on June 8, 2007, 11:50 ampENNYwise how u train ur male dog to squat when peeing ?
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From what I read, some dogs didnt digest their food properly, so what go in will come out and when come out, still got food smell, so go in a second time.

If keep go in and out non stop, then you only need to feed your dog once a month! hehe... Housebreaking aid never works. You are better off without them but some ppl do claim it works. So far, I tried 2, never worked even a bit.

I didnt train him to squat, he memang pee like that since day 1 he was brought home.
QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ Jun 8 2007, 02:30 PM)
i dunno y my both pups oso squat wor..

i buy those from giant.. biocare green colour thingy..
easy 2 clean off..housebreaking aids r too expensive..
wanted 2 use vinegar but i;'ll vomit everytime i smell it..
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Biocare green color thing? What is that? Tray is it?

QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ Jun 8 2007, 02:46 PM)
wth!!!

mature liao will do marking??!!

i din noe dat..
he's 8months old now..
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Yea, I think 4 more months and he will start making every vertical object, that time have to be strict. My Westie also 7 months liao. 5 more months to go before he turns into terror!

QUOTE(Syrian @ Jun 8 2007, 02:52 PM)
is it really true that male dogs will open one leg up to pee when they reach adulthood ?? ?_?
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Yes, I believe that to be true but yet to be seen. Hahaha...
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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ Jun 8 2007, 03:47 PM)
Of course lah...but still can be trained....thats y i bought a female mah.......
But female got heat problem also, but nvrmind, only for 3 weeks.
Yes ah. Unless u neutered the male dog at around 6 months old, before he matured, then will continue squat down and pee.
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Oh God.. heat for 3 wks? shocking.gif
can neuter the male dog at such a young age meh? not 1 yrs old?
is it true after neutered he will continue squat down?

QUOTE(Pennywise @ Jun 8 2007, 04:43 PM)
From what I read, some dogs didnt digest their food properly, so what go in will come out and when come out, still got food smell, so go in a second time.

If keep go in and out non stop, then you only need to feed your dog once a month! hehe... Housebreaking aid never works. You are better off without them but some ppl do claim it works. So far, I tried 2, never worked even a bit.

I didnt train him to squat, he memang pee like that since day 1 he was brought home.

Biocare green color thing? What is that?  Tray is it?
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we are talking bout use wad to clean the pooped area..
then jaunty said biocare green thing sweat.gif

can any1 tell me wad must be bought b4 getting a pup. wink.gif
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post Jun 8 2007, 05:21 PM

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cage, drinking bottle, kibbles, food bowl, grooming brush and comb, a nylon chew bone, 1 or 2 squeeking chew toy.shampoo, conditioner, eye drops, ear drops
others like fish oil supplement and vitamin, treats, carrier box, colar, harness, leash, extra toys, anti-tangle spray,talcum for pets,tear stain remover,wee wee pad,........u see see loh.
Buy the basic one, then i can confirm from the day on, u'll be visiting petshop during weekends(since u r working rite?), and mostly u'll bring back 1 or 2 things for the puppy.

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treats can giv puppy?? thought muz above 1yrs old?
i can visit pet shop during weekdays also can. lol. my house too near pet safari.lol..
ear drops and eye drop muz apply everyday? or after bathe only.
usually when u bathe the dog u must stuff cotton balls inside the ear arh?


Added on June 8, 2007, 5:35 pmif i feed the dog orijen.. muz giv supplements like fish oil also ?


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yeap.
supplements r like..erm supplements..u add on to their nutrition they get from da kibbles. depends on wat u wanna giv..u can choose from brewers's yeast to fish oil and flex seed oils..or u can giv them natural treats, like apples, carrot sticks, or even cottage cheese.

1. biocare is wat i spray da floor n clean it up whenever there r poop stains.. its safe, no nit 2 sked dat my pup will go lick da floor n vomit. had bad experience using dettol, den jack jack went n lick, n vomit white buih. buying those house breaking aids r a bit too costy, cos i'll use up 1 bottle of 700ml every 5weeks.

2. wat joanna said was very very enuf. those r da basic items u hv 2 get for a pup.
cos ur getting poodle or maltese, u hv 2 comb their fur everyday, hence u'll need a comb.

haha i list it out all wat joana said..da most basic things u muz hv when u get ur pup!

grooming:
shampoo , conditioner , comb , nail clipper , cotton buds , ear cleaner , tick control , anti tangle.

place 2 stay:
bed [optional] , cage , food bowl , drinking water , wee wee pad , leash , collar , lisence , toys

food:
kibbles , supplements , treats

some stated in there u can take it as optional, but u hv 2 get it in 2 weeks time. u'll need it later. remember spend lots of time playing wif ur pup o..
i'm feeding orijen now, jus bought from wp..hehe..
still feeding them their vitamins n fruits..
vitamin i take Hartz advance care chewable vitamins.
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100 tablets, 1 tablet each day, rm28.

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The fish oil juz add in the kibbles rite? (how much per bottle)

im getting a pup. do i still need treats? heard frm dunoe where better dun giv puppy treats.

Then i will hav to buy biocare although i bought "easy off bang" lol..
or can use "easy off bang".

comb, wad kind.. those normal 1 isit?

cotton bud for animals? or for human?

the bed i bought 1 in sg. very scared my dog wont use..
if not wasted..

juz wondering if i bought orijen for my dog.. and in case i run out of orijen.. will they eat those holistic brand like eagle pack. innova.. california wadever la. lol.

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combs..

fish oil pour a lil into da kibbles..
erm giv a lil treats 2 teach them is okay lor..jus don giv too much till they refuse 2 eat kibbles..
any cleaner will do de..jus to clean da floor wat..but better choose those more organic type. but da ending will b da same if ur pup accidentally drank it..haha..
cotton buds i'm using human ones, cos specially for pets type r very very expensive..i recall da price of rm16.90 for 80buds..

don run outta food..when ur about 2 run outta food, n u cant find orijen, den u buy something 2 mix wif it. or elz sked ur pup wont get use 2 da new kibbles.

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