I've joined a party to go to Blood Furnace, and never in my life in WoW has got any DISGUSTED..

Party Info ( a lvl 61 warrior, lvl 59 shaman (enchance spec), lvl 64 priest (holy spec), lvl 70 priest (he did nothingin there, he just mc'ing and dps) and a lvl 63 pally (tat's me)

In the instances, things were going allright, i died once because i dont know why, the warrior aren't tanking well coz i grabbed his aggro lol (take note: i'm just holy spec), and the priest lvl 64 said he didn't heal / can't heal me in time because he will only focus on MT (main tank) and will heal me the last.. OMFG I've been healing in instances since lvl 60 in OUTLAND since i'm holy, all the party i've been that there's no priest around and I have no problem healing 2 MT / OFFTANK.. the only problem I have is sometimes I have to take care of the casters..

It's ok I died once, nvm.. We go on until The Maker, everything went on so well.. until the room we going to kill that BIG HEADY BOSS.. Here is the most funniest thing going on..

(Take note: In this room we must kill each of the mobs fast enuff to prevent respawn)

After we pulled the trigger, first room come out, as far as I know this room has no elites, so we can clear them fast to prevent respawn.. But something very funny happened..

This 2 priest and the warrior.. keep on fearing them.. this is where is start to get "pening" .. the warrior keep on chasing the feared ones, tat lvl 70 priest mc'ing 1, reducing in time killing and as i expected, the respawn came out, then they fear again and i was like "OMFG THEY AREN'T ELITES CAN'T WE JUST KILL THEM FAST?" .. I was chasing them to kill and I was like jesus when we did clear the room 1, then room 2 come out, same tactics they fear again!!! this time the elites.. the warrior didn't kill fast enuff, and I dont know why am I getting all the aggro since he's tanking (take note = i'm only holy build) then I died ?? zzz (take note divine shield still on cd because there is an aggro b4 thanks to the priest lvl 70 mc'ing in the middle of the room with pats coming).. as usual, more elites spawn out becoz of the time we took to kill those elites >.<

The priest (lvl 64) said he only will heal MT and if me, he only put shield and renew and that's all =D, BUT WHEN I'M DEAD, he has a full shot of mana to heal the whole party in the end =D but not me =D.. I can't accept that kind of damn fact.. Since I'm getting all the aggro, the warrior HP shud be no problem, and the priest should have common sense to heal who needed the most..

Yes they fear to replenish their mana, but in the end, we can't even pass room 2 (wipe in the end)..

I have run this BF so many times, and never get any trouble in this room.. All is going very well, no fearing needed and i'm the only healer and till the boss come out i still have half full bar of mana to heal that tanker fight like GOD LIKE..

The thing I can't accept is "Priest dont heal who needed the most" .. and " shield + renew = ok i'm done with you, bye "

To all priest out there, I have no offense to priest healing.. But when you're in party, will you concentrate only the MT and not the whole party?

For me, I have no problem in healing 2 at the same time.. ^^ (maybe becoz I have illumination, but priest mana bar and regen should be better than me)

This post has been edited by wowplayer2007: Mar 9 2007, 07:47 PM

and this is also why priests are whining about the patch notes, cuz they suck too much and even the slightest bit of even irrelevant nerf, they'd cry a river.

gg

to competant priests, blame these priest for making you guys look bad.

that priest who dps is doing the right thing since your party do lack of dps..
and you can heal yourself right? im not defending the priest...just chill out

you could always heal yourself anyway

yes you can heal if there's like 3-5 attacking you and sometimes (shield bash, AI in instances recently has been upgraded, they know how to prevent you from casting spells =D) and your hp drop like mad and no mobs there's dead when they are 3 others dps-ing > . <

well if the priest has full mana and the mobs are all on you, that means the warrior is free of mob, y can't the priest heal you?

i'm on your side in this case

if i were you, i'd post this up on the WoW Realm Forums and just blurt out the priest name.

yes, i am that devious. i can't make a change here in Lowyat much but I can leave a nasty sting on the server.

thanks guys I got what u guys mean.. i felt cleared..

actually the answer I wanna know is it very hard for priest to keep a MT and OFF TANK alive ? Any priest here can give me an answer? Is it a very hard job to just heal 2 person? I dont have problem healing 2 person atm at OUTLAND instances so far.. He doesn't need to heal the shammy and the priest.. since they dont take any damage at all.. Just me and the warrior.. Is it that hard?

the reason I'm posting this, coz the priest (lvl 64) happen to be my friend, and he keep on debating that he's right, I'm wrong..

This post has been edited by wowplayer2007: Mar 10 2007, 12:32 AM

that's retarded, if he has the resources to heal then he damn well should for the interest of the whole party

priest is the strongest healer in the game pve wise undisputed, if he cant heal as simple as two PLATE, bear in mind, PLATE classes, then he have to re-think about his class. perhaps a priest just aint his thing ye know?

If your friend is only thinking of using Shield and Renew, then he needs to rethink his healing tactics. At the same time, only keeping 2 people up? Sounds like he's not confident in his healing capabilities at all to keep the entire team up. Usually means that he knows his limitations but from what you're telling me now, he doesn't know how to gear up to play his class well at all.

And having to always fear, that's being too cowardly but that's just me. Fear is a panic button and mobs will come back to whack him (frankly, I think he deserves it). Unless ppl are ready to pick up the mob, there's no point in him having to fear. Methinks he fear of dying himself and not the team.

Geez...two priests = two MC. Why didn't he just do it with the level 70? Would be easy to take out 2 mobs. Sigh. Anyway, here's a link to a posting on beginner's healing. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.h...=12733826&sid=1

When I started BC instances, I stopped looking for priests and went looking for Pally Healers. Better chances of survival since the outland bosses and instance trash mobs hit harder.

As for the DPS not being enough, it's probably coz the other players don't have good gear or just not good skills. Example : a Lvl50 shammy dualwielding 2 maces is keeping up on Damage Meters against a Lvl65 Feral Druid in BC outfit. So it's entirely possible to have good DPS churnout provided you get good players and good gear

Being a priest is easy. Try being a Feral Druid and doing healing. Now that's a challenge.

Being a rogue, I've been in some instance where the priests flatly refused to heal me and will only heal the mt. The reason? I'm a mana sink and I will still die in 1 ~ 2 hits in dungeons no matter if the priest heal me or not.

Stupid 360 cleave and instant aoe!!

You got a sucky priest.

From what you've described, I think it's more like a party issue, i.e. players' issues.

zzzzzzz

get that said priest to read this forum, 10/10 saying he suck

The road to recovery is knowing that one is no longer in denial. That priest sounds extremely hard-headed.

Good luck wowplayer2007.

the priest u have is a sucky one...no doubt a priest has to keep his party members at all cost no matter who they are, MT are usually the main priority. if the mt and dps are in the red life region, i would heal the MT first, then the dps.

usually i dont have problem with rogues as most rogue i partied with so far knows how to feint and control their dps. My main problem is usually mages, cuz i really hate to waste extra mana to cast a shield on my party members (they really burn extra mana, compared to normal heals/renew). i would try to use renew on MT as much as possible, and flash heal later on when the MT has less than half life. And do bear in mind that I was a shadow priest, so i have significantly less mana compared to disc priests.

and to me, shield is really not a good spell to use, cuz of the mana cost.for the cost of 2 shields u can prolly cast up to 3 flash heals.

This post has been edited by SnoWFisH: Mar 10 2007, 10:01 PM

feint is a skill that shouldnt exist in a rogue's spell book, rogues who feint need to:
- L2P
or
- get a better tank

Rogues who don't use feint need to L2P. Period! Blizzard gives you a tool to lower your threat while fighting monster. Use it!

This post has been edited by Dharcness: Mar 11 2007, 11:55 AM

there is vanish, and there are good tanks.

if the tank is good, feinting is only being retarded.

just to let you know, a feint only lowers the threat of my 3 hit autoattack, if i crit, only 2 hit.

if you still dont get it, basically the moment i feint, it only takes 1.90 (my dagger weapon speed) seconds should i crit my auto attack to regain the aggro i had prior to feint.

tell me, is it useful?

id rather save the energy to mutilate more, if im gonna pull aggro, i might as well squeeze in more dps before i pull it, and prolly still dps after i pull aggro if its on trash and i can kidney shot and still continue to mutilate.

so YOU L2P.

and have you partied with good prot warriors/feral druids? if ur feinting then, ur just gimping ur dp making you look like a clown on the dps meters.

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oh shi- EPIC DERAILMENT!

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Mar 11 2007, 02:20 PM

wait...so your entire motivation to not feint is to rule the damage meters? ummm...<speechless>

looks like u didnt have a good class balance to begin with.. 59 shaman? er.. and def not enough dps or aoe to kill the mobs in that room. Such a bad class balance will frustrate anyone..

Besides that, also seems like the warrior didnt know how to tank multiple targets, resulting in you getting agro from healing and the priests were just messing around..

Basically sounds like a case of bad class balance and bad players.. Try to choose ur groups more carefully imo

hmm just wondering, one priest is holy and the other is not shadow?

*Slap forehead*

To each his own I suppose.

Uhh ya, topic derailment already.

i already rule it, i just push further, and more.

no limits.

and its not like its impossible to hold aggro so long you understand its mechanics, in fact, you can even abuse the aggro mechanic to a certain extent.

competant tanks have absolutely NO problem in holding my aggro, i dont see why i have to cap myself for no reason.

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well a lil clarification, i have been outdps'ed 6 times since BC is released, all 6 also by no more than 10% margin. and the one that did ~9% was wearing around 6 lvl70 BC epics mage, tank didnt had any problem holding his aggro either, and we did arcatraz in around 1 hour 20-30ish min, where an avg group would end you up 2-3 hours. so yeah, more dps, shorter run, everyone's happy.

bogardan: that is true, stacked classes in bc is kinda asking for it, but still, apparently the thread is being focused on how incompetant the priest is within the group.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Mar 12 2007, 03:55 AM

It's kinda a cop-out right? If you steal aggro because you refuse to feint, you just blame the tank not being competent enough.

Try to post in the rogue forums that "People who feint need to L2P" and you'll probably get flamed to death.

Priest can keep the whole group alive, provided each know what they are doing, however in PUG I've bad experience and normally will just keep the MT alive. for others when I see they are not full health I'll just toss a renew on them, here is why;

Mage - they should not draw aggro in the first place, I got a mage too, if Warrior is good there is no reason for you to get hit. anyway If I heal you and the mob will turn to me, and you can't Taunt it off me and I end up used most of my mana to keep me alive... when I went oom and tank die grp wipe... So if mage get aggro L2IceCube/frostnova.

Hunter - Silly hunter like to draw aggro off their pet, they will feint death/ice trap anyway so heal on them is no point, coz if they feint mob on you = WIPE

Warlock - Warlock is the worst to heal... they can't frost nova to slow mob.. they can't feint death.. if they dun get VW/Felguard/succy to draw aggro away from themself, dun expect he will help you when you bashed by mobs.

Rogue - skilled rogue = heal, coz they are good off tanker and need to keep them alive... silly rogue = mana sink, especially when they draw aggro off tank, and most of the time they will vanish and aggro on Healer >"<

Shaman/Druid(non-Bear form)/Pally/Priest - Heal yourself... you are secondary healer in the grp anyway

DPS warrior - dunno what to say about them

However if everyone know what they are doing I can keep the whole grp in 90%+ health with no death toll

So priest can heal more than 2 ppl... they can even keep the grp alive from AOE boss. But if the grp sux, you'll get oom and wipe, then they will blame you

lesson no.1. dun pug with nub
lesson no.2. L2 pot
lesson no.3. L2 bandage
lesson no.4. L2 cabut

pally over power in healing with a shadow priest. maybe u should find a dps shadow instead of mc. last nite i run heroic BF, (41/20/0), i just keep throwing renew to pally, he keep the mt i keep party.

L2 to be better
L2 stop complaint

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Added on March 12, 2007, 1:30 pmbtw i dun seem any wrong with fear. but the mob after 2 fear, dead. DOT FTW <3

This post has been edited by Gladys: Mar 12 2007, 01:30 PM

actually shield is the LEAST mana efficient spell. I use it only in emergencies and for clothies when they need to AoE.

As for healing priority, of course the first priority is always the MT (most of the time anyway) but if I have extra mana I will try to keep the whole party up. knowing who to heal first and which spell to use comes with experience and practice. I admit that I used to be one of those priests who ONLY has the highest flash heal and renew in my action bars:(( with experience, I know how use lower rank heals, G heals, lower renews, lower flash heals and knowing which to use is kind of like second nature to me. My problems are usually warlocks and hunters. FD-ing beside the priest after gaining aggro is NOT SMART. Hellfire like crazy unecessarily is also NOT SMART.

People say that we whine after a small nerf, IMO, EVERY CLASS will whine if they are nerfed. Big or small. End of story. There are good priests and there are bad ones. Perhaps this one is especially bad. Doesn't mean everyone who plays a priest is bad. I can also name many incidents where there are noob hunters, warriors, mages, shamans, druids, and warlocks (palladins not yet coz haven't really partied with one yet except myself :b). You can /rant and complain but please do not condemn the whole class.

Most of the times(about 95% of the encounter including instance/raid trash mobs),you dont need to use feint.
learn to vanish,understand threat mechanic or install KTM will help.

u should play a warr girl

so i can shield u make u no rage n poke till morning - night - moring - night.

like wait u till my hair growth white ..

priest is easy job....all u do is look at bars and contemplate on what spell to heal ur teammates...LOL.....

wonders whats so hard with it...been a lvl 60 dorf priest healbot raid spec since i am lvl 57 onwards ....
and being healing all the way thru all instances till naxx......it's still the same thing....bars , bars , bars and more bars....

ROAR!!

hey gal, u quit wow or playing on Thaurissen now? I met up with seen already. now only you lah. Went into LoTH.

you try and post it, and see what happens? famous rogues that pves will tell you what ive been telling. but i can also gurantee around 60% of the posts will be from noobs that will agree with you.

make me wrong will ya?

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Added on March 12, 2007, 7:05 pmQFT

now this man is a smartie man, unlike noobs around goin "LOLOOLOLOL FEINT IZ SKEEL"

also seen: yes, people shouldnt condemn the whole class because of a certain one idiot, but this is how the way it is and i do pity priest. those bad ones make the good ones look bad.

and sorry lazy to edit post, mods feel free to merge for me >.>

=edit=
nvm awesome, LYP auto merge post, gg

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Mar 12 2007, 07:06 PM

rogue players are like warrior players. when they're good, they're very good. when they're not, wipe.

then again, L2P is not as easy as it sounds. just team with SL with a lvl70 fire mage that is carrying a +52 str staff and using her carrot on a stick trinklet. adoi.

Nice try bro, but I asked you 1st

not only rogues and warriors, works the same for every class as a matter of fact ^^

like for example, considering the topic at hand, ive partied with a priest that have 1.7k +healing, and some 12k mana... and moderately high spirit too... VERY hard to oom despite our speed pullings and everyone's health bar is greeeeeeeeeeeeennnnnn lol. only part where he mana actually drops to a noticeble point is on bosses (we doing mechanar and bosses at that instances is a lil "out of place" with their stupid aoes)

aggroboy: i already answered, i only need you to get the answers yourself, not asking you anything in return.

i knowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww..... very jealous lah. regretted not picking up enchanting for my priest lah. even saw a pally with +1K healing and never ran out of mana until at bosses.

lol pally even worse, if only tank/1-2 guys taking dmg, they dont even have to drink thanks to overpowered illumination via flash spams. just stay above 90% mana all the time jumping around until someone takes dmg, blessings also dare to do it on boss cuz he knows mana aint an issue at all.

but their biggest weakness, if around or more than 2-3 ppl taking dmg, they're virtually useless, someone will have to die or potion/healthstone etc etc.

L2 PoM

Saves mana, saves lives.

well....every class has good and bad players....learning the mechanics and skill function of each class is the ultimate goal where each one can adress easily throughout our career in wow. Though i haf stop playing nowadays, but life as a healer is the same, now more skill is needed coz of 25 men raids and 10 men raids...
5 mens have always been the epitome of learning for all new healbots....This is where a good healbot differs from a lousy one.

I haf seen priest in blues keeping up 3 mages aoe'ing mobs ....and mind ya, those mages aint decked out .....simples rules like potting everytime u could , burning cooldowns all the time, and burning em at the right time would make a healbot more efficient.......

Gears make a different, but there are many other methods to overcome the lack of gear, potting for once makes a difference....and so is speccing for healbot would too.

One healbot should always take pride in able to keep up their mates in whatsoever condition.....reaction towards scenarios are most important.

That is why i am a staunch believer in understanding the mechanics and instances u are going to be a good healbot.One can never grasp fully the role unless u clearly know the instance inside out.Positioning as a healbot is critical for a healer too. A dead healer = useless healer.
A healbot who heals himself all the time coz taking dmg = another useless healbot.

A healbot needs to know where to position himself, LOS to the tanks and fully grasp the condition of the instances to abuse the advantage from it.
Knowing what skill to spam , deranking spells will only help when one realises that surviving is the essential thing.

A dead healbot cant heal ppl....A live one will haf a chance to....And tat's the difference between a good and a healbot and a crappy one.

MET up ?? i tot u @ sabah / sarawak

havn quit.. last nite stil pumping sha'tar rep

maybe u can add me as fren in thau so can hookup some times.. she is not in loth

in game lah gal. Vylis is the name. haven't logged for the past 2 days though.

hi there...
allow me pointing out something for discussion.

1- as far as i concern a holy priest dont heal a holy paladin..(except there is nobody else to heal )
2- priest give shield n renew to party members except MT..thats noble and more that enough for most cases (except aoe pull), except he didnt have POM yet,
3- you dont have to feel disgusted(in capital letters) in your WoW life.. its not the priest that let you a holy paladin die..
4- theres alot of room for your group to improve, but always start by ourself...some of that i can think of is a) step infront and explain your idea and justify it... b) let the warrior build up agro and assist the warrior target..(forget the adds and let the priest die..ahaha) c) ask the priest to dps and you heal in healing gear, because u know u are better healer and didnt have healing problem in the room. d) call it..and find another group .

it is all come back to your group.. are you going to improvise and clear the instance or are you going to blame each other...

till then..enjoy.

There is a very fine line between improvising and blaming. It's whether the other player is open enough for suggestions or not.

I don't see the OP blaming anyone. He's wanting to know whether his reasoning was sound or not. He hasn't been nasty at this point and hasn't blame anyone at all.

As for the rest of us, ok, so we are harsh but it's even harsher in-game and on the WoW forums.

GLADYS COME!!!!

you want my epic healing mace? i havent bought it yet but i plan to buy it and +81 healing it and run around healers. (i can also do the +81 healing myself)

alamort:
1) as far as i concern, a healer, not just priest, should be healing people that are dying, whoever they are unless under very specific situations like eg:
nefarion priest calling, healer already being assigned specifically on only one guy (raiding, usually not applicable to 5mans), dalliah in arcatraz where by if the target gets the heal debuff, it will heal the boss if the target gets healed.

in your point, sure, the holy paladin can heal himself, but lets try switching up positions a bit, lets say, a holy paladin should never heal a priest, and currently, said priest is being pounded by 2-3 mobs, very close to dying, heals are being interrupted, fade is on cooldown, fear is on cooldown or mobs immuned/room packed with mobs to ultilize fear, tell me, let the priest die, or paladin heal him so he can live on? i believe, to every healer, the answer is obvious.

2) shield, despite how you may think, is NOT a mana effecient spell, even if its instant, its GCD also takes time, while simple flash heals while having 1.5sec cast, doesnt have a GCD attached to it. so its not as simple as "shield + renew and gg ur fixed" can save lives.

3) we arent talking about the priest letting the paladin die i believe, we're talking about the priest himself being stubborn, and at the same time, being "not-so-bright".

4) myremi replied

i once saw a holy pally bubbling himself just before a fight. he said that he didn't want to whacked.

i called him chicken mail wearer. then he stop doing it and focus on healing properly.

as a matter of fact, if the bubble was casted during or after the pull/aggro was made, hes actually accomplishing the opposite as PWS generates GLOBAL aggro. (not a high ammount though, but enough to get things on ur face because assumingly, the tank havent aggro'ed every mob pulled) /gg

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ah i just see that you said pally
assumed ur talkin bout priest considering the topic... how often he gets to bubble anyways lol

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Mar 14 2007, 01:08 AM

WoW is a fun(but sometimes is not lol:P) that has a lot of variations and there is no right or wrong way imho..its just we know or we dont know yet..

while shield is NOT a mana efficient spell yes, and flash heal too lol.. but i dont see any disgusting action by shielding the paladin.. its help the paladin heal themselve or even bandage without interupting/pushback the casting..thats why its noble action.. he even renew ..

im just stating my opinion in regard the 'disgusting' incident..
i assume the run is done with pug where things like this are expected and should be expected.. and i've put some of my ideas...and there is always option 4.d)

OIC!!
i log in last nite but :<

come where. i came but u're not there !!

which epic ? karazan epic or sha'tar epic ?

i give u my whitemend hood n pants u give me 2000g la.
enchant with HH +35H7mp5. as well as pants n hood.


pally really over power... my <3 healadin green gear already +1.4H nvr out of mana(got me ma )... n nvr let usme down (DI FTW ! <3 repair bill) but he dono tio wat sickness... look kinda serious nvr on at all nowadays T.T
TS, maybe u can have some lecture from him FM ally -Isus- <<tanker die he di me alone heal tank dps boss in last 8 % n drop my D3 last pieces. unforgotable event.

sorry. forgot you play at CC. i log in after 11 pm last nite. i'll see you tonite. warning though : i'm seldom on. ><

erm.. i log in abt 2am last nite.. some office there n another 2 are up n we are crapping ard..

tonite wat time will u on ?

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Added on March 14, 2007, 12:13 pmbut on can only blow water only, im a lazy questing lowbie.. so, get vent/ts on ! <3 do u have mic? ask last nite that officer hmmmmm wat name is he ?? he will buy u one n mail to u : )

This post has been edited by Gladys: Mar 14 2007, 12:13 PM

i fully agree with what you said above, however i believe the discussion we have here is the priest mentally of "shield + renew and the guy's 110% not going to die or he die its his problem"

gladys: i am a rogue, and i am sha'tar exalted 999 due to crappy drop rate on my assassination helm

renew bcoz the priest is not shadow n no shadow in party to constanly regent pally mana. most of the time heroic boss fight with a renew or shadow holy pally can always save 1 mana pot.
but i dun bubble, i'll get agro coz of the reflected sometime. scrary.

then wat healing mace u wanna give me ? =.=
HH hornored->exalted my hammer belum drop. heart dead.

alamort : actually, i put that pally post up to deliberately change topic. but what Q mentioned is right though.

gladys : got vent and TS so no prob. i'm very very quiet in LoTH. don't think the casual peons will take kindly to a very low priest giving advice on how to run instances better. >.< only log in 2x. haha! met up with seen and didn't realise that Amidaru was mad_geist until I saw the siggy today. Issh...

oh and time ah? hmmm...what time is good for you? pick a time between 7 pm and 12 am. not after 12 am lah, i gotta work.

This post has been edited by myremi: Mar 14 2007, 01:16 PM

aiyak , make noisy only, they all lifeless wow player. i log in like 5 mins guild chat pop rate = 0.00 %

but vent or ts we use our own one. dun let them eavesdropping


how low is ur priest? im abt 20..

sorry for my post if im offence

i read through your post here, i understand that the priest you have is abit weak on group healing, maybe he/she not yet learn to fully group healing, but you do have wrong as well because you didnt concerntrate on the screen but instead putting blame on the priest not to heal you when you able to heal yourself and you put yourself as melee class and waiting for heal.

althrough my level for pally is still low but i do went for lowbie instance, i'm a retribution build but it happen everytime they ask me to be healer when my mana lower than a shammie -.-" but no choice cause we are team in group better no fighting cause problem.

did you use "righteous fury" when you fighting mobs? this skill cause 60% treatening but i know a war should taunt mostly but it depend sometime, skill cause problem.

your group had 2 priest, 1 shammie, 1 war and you(pally) actually this team is good on supporting heal most of time, from your post i see the lv70 priest doing nothing << bad bad priest!.
shammie lv59 is low but can be a good support too.

an advice for you, try not to depend on people so much when you were in group, i learned this when im a mages,especially when you can heal yourself.

How come nobody offered to buy and send mic to me one?

got . call da officer send u mic too !

but i forgot wat his name ler.. the only 'officer' last nite. he said he offer all 'girl' mic n send em.

and I thought RETardins dps were pathetic... now we have a holy paladin dpsing... Way to go! and what did you do to pull 3 mobs on you? consecrate? you should by now know that pre 70, almost nil warriors are specced for protection.

and again, Why the f*** are u dpsing on holy spec? if i want dpsers i get warlocks and mages...

hamsap.

gladys : u log in at 2 am of course quiet lah. when i log in on sat. morning and last nite, noisy wor.

seen : maybe coz of the note u put in LoTH? say that u're someone's partner so "no touchie".

ladies, we do like to hijack threads in WoW. hee hee...


gofey : put it this way, we are harsh when it comes to seeking opinions and even giving them. for action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. i guess take it with a pinch of salt but at the same time, look for ways to improve gameplay.

since you did mention that you only have a pally that has not react Outlands yet, it might be difficult to understand what is happening out there. i used to be like u when it comes to giving comments about instancing and even raiding. until i really got into it and realized that i literally had to change the entire way i was gaming.

you might find that you're healing ok now but as you hit lvl50 onwards, you have to switch from high stats gear (e.g. int, spr) to +heals and MPS (mana per second). instances in outland are endurance fights when DPS are not strong enough. there's also the added likelihood that below-min-level of instances will pull all aggro, even if they didn't land the first punch.

btw, have you hit gnomeregon? that used to be a painful instance that everyone remembers and hated. another one is uldaman. next was lyceum in BRD, and i only completed it once. stratholme UD and scholomance were painful too. UBRS, argh.

but when you hit outlands, it is hell for a first timer. the dragon in ramparts gave everyone nitemares for days. the crab in slave pens were causing mass graves. trash mobs in shadow labs is still taking everyone's heads.

sure is interesting though. i love tough instances. gives you a good feeling once you're able to down them.

ei.. y u all keep mentioning low lvl staff? i tot but is his fault to go BF at his lvl. isnt rampats is the easiest ?

gladys: the epic +282? healing mace from sha'tar exalted

and to the recent replies: l2read?

myremi : i did bring my mages to outland before ^^ V

Welcome to the wonderful world of PUGs where you can meet high level characters whose players you are in total amazement that they managed to reach such dizzy heights with such lack of knowledge and maybe purchased their character form some dumbass levelling service.

I present to you some choice examples:

Warrior, volunteered to tank Ramparts.
Q: "Hey, man you might want to get your shield out"
A: "I dont have a shield"
Q: ???? (you dont have a clue! wonder if he even has defensive stance?!)

Warlock, full mana bar, shooting at mobs with a wand
Q: "Hey man, enough fooling around, lets get down to real DPS"
A: "Yeah i dont want to pull aggro"
Q: ??? (omg how long did you take to level up like that lah?)

This post has been edited by limsk: Mar 14 2007, 06:52 PM

gofek : i'm just being annoying.

limsk : my ex-guild class leader once said "it's not that it's not possible to play the game that way, it's just less stressful for everyone".

diplomatic answer.

myremi : i know haha ^^ i was joking also hehe

This post has been edited by gofey: Mar 14 2007, 08:54 PM

LOL my boyfriend wrote that, initially someone set my public notes to "dimples's guardian" or something although I don't really know who dimples is. When my boyfriend saw it, he was pretty upset so he wrote that instead LOL.

Yeah hijack FTW! Ctrl+v (for those who played RO)

Local WOW news; today a 1000's of Gnomes invaded Orgrimma, did I said Gnomes? I mean Naked Mage Gnomes. Inorder to celebrate "snow ball season", they were throwing ice ball(bolt) to everything insight. Thrall flees from his throne when he sighted these naked gnomes, however local Orc Grunt and Horde Nub had put up meaningless retaliation against the Gnomes Invasion, Orgrimma was cleared in merely 15 minutes, no horde humanoid life spared in this process. This Is Shopboy your friendly News Broadcaster.

y i l2read? i dun read. lazy.

glaver of light or something .. :\
very hard to farm rep nowadays in FM.. open friend list 9½ /10 >karazan<

apa ni ?

Gladys so are u gonna come to Thaurissan?

Ish... just over already la... ><

well... as wat wowplayer had said...
that was totally 13ull$h1t with crappy $h1tty excuses...

so far u i hav played with the most healers all the way since i played WoW...
start fr 1st char Druid --> Shammy --> Priest --> Pally...
these r the classes i hav played with...
these 4 classes i use to b healed as they wish for no matter with/without main healer on...
always tried to main heal & even off-heal as well...

wat i hav found is, the class of Priest is the BEST with their healing rather than others healing classes...
due to Priest was main healing classes as to b & comes with better mana regen...
i dun find any prob with Priest once i hav come to main heal even tho i am Shadow spec...
but of coz, holy or restor spec is totally the most efficient as the heals wanted to b...
so y, a holy Priest(<-- the lv64 Priest who was talking bout) cant do better than my Shadow Priest...?? 13ull$h1t...
btw Priest comes with shield, so they can shield b4 heal, which i do always...

IMO, Priest > Druid > Pally > Shammy in terms of healing abilities...
so b sory to hear fr this kinda unacceptable crappy incident...

in the other hand, there's 1 party i hav nvr been heal on... thats was those classes with pet...lol
wat i mean is the pets... yes those pets...

This post has been edited by chaichai: Mar 20 2007, 10:02 PM

Myremi got crit by chaichai's l33tspeak.

My eyes and brain are hurting. I think I understood what you said. My age is showing.

Actually, would be interesting to get an update from wowplayer2007. You've been awfully quiet. How goes the situation with your friend or is he pissed off with the rest of us in here?

yea. im still thinking any class other than priest.. im bored but other class cant turn me ON atm..

i did log in to find u n myremi.. but each time disappointed myself .. sob.



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MH with shadow spec? u talk abt normal or heroic? if normal sry im not interested AT ALL. ima heroic instance runner. show me n proof me ur shaodw preist can be MH with no any offheal support in heroic. i'll CONSIDER delete my charater.

but shadow priest always in top dps meter nowadays

exactly my point, ill take a shadow specced over a pathetic retardin dps any given day...

as it stands these days, healing order of healing power = paladin > druid/shaman > priests

the only upside of priests is that they have more utilities, not better healings

shadow locks + priest dps = over 9000! the synergy is simply fantastic

but ppl always want to be on top of dps meter. dps full force. tanker always @#$$%^%& LOL

i dun want ..but i have to agree. yes pally are over power in SINGLE TARGET healing. they can ezly topup the hp to full.. ima 41/20 priest. can heal but stress always >"< in my server u can c 9½/10 priest all turn into shadow eidi.. ima still wating my healadin back in action so i go back shadow too ;p

ever since blizzard introduced the multi selection of tiered armors, it's been hell...
inmagine ur pally winning a roll for their tier token and changing it for a *GASP* tanking gear.....

Warlocks and Shadow Priests are soulmates. It's a match made in hell!

just like Romulo and Julianne. the couple from hell... tough fight, shit lewts!

Muahaha Wait till i change it to : President of the I LUV Raichu FANCLUB !!

Why don't you just kill me instead...

seen come outtown later??

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Added on March 21, 2007, 4:35 pmuptown!! ****

This post has been edited by Gladys: Mar 21 2007, 04:35 PM

uptown? In D'sara?

yup. wanna come?

hmmm i leaving office lor.. if u coming, give me a call ya..

This post has been edited by Gladys: Mar 21 2007, 06:08 PM

Can't la, still stuck in office (
but later I sms u

wah, happy hour ah.

wish i can join you guys. another day i guess.

toodles!

last night me and gladys........ hehe....

*to be continued*

hehe... sry that day.. didnt log in lyn so my sms was abit...

myremi, come join us, anytime !

ahhaah go uptown more often...kekeke....then come visit blaze cafe

o_O

hmm...

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Flight ticket?

mattaaaaa fare RM0.50 !!!!!!!

go go go !!

ahem. over already lah. by one week lah.

now nothing is lower than RM79.99 w/o added charges.

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i book for u next time

the flight to jb is rm0.30 lol