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wsoon82
post Jun 13 2019, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(NoobHacker @ Jun 12 2019, 08:50 PM)
Allow me to share my experience in Cyberjaya. Please don't get mad at any point I shared here, they just my personal opinion, not true fact.

I stayed here for 15 months and moved to Dengkil. Everyone outside of Cyberjaya says I'm crazy to live so far but I really enjoy my life now.

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Very good sharing.

Just share some of my personal view/experience:
1) The klia transit can be very helpful. It is rm350 (for monthly pass) from putrajaya sentral to kl sentral and the covered car park is rm2 per day. It is only 20 minutes travelling time between the two station, the train schedule is fixed, and the interval during peak hour is 15 minutes. It also removes the stress of driving, worry of flooding, risks of getting saman, etc. I used to drive and have to leave early in the morning to avoid traffic, but thankful to this train, I can leave anytime because I am sure what to expect.
2) My wife cooks so lack of outside food is ok for us. She doesn't like outside food anyway. smile.gif
3) My condo unit in puchong at one point has similar problem with foreigner "students", but now all clear, the effort from jmc is important but I guess cbj condos have too many investors who don't care to spend the effort. I will move to landed unit so hopefully ok, otherwise I will spend the effort to make it ok since it is strata property.
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post Jun 13 2019, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(thecaterpillar @ Jun 13 2019, 09:16 AM)
Ur landed at Laman View?
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Maple residence. Any future neighbour here can pm.
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post Jun 13 2019, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(wsoon82 @ Jun 13 2019, 08:38 AM)
Very good sharing.

Just share some of my personal view/experience:
1) The klia transit can be very helpful. It is rm350 (for monthly pass) from putrajaya sentral to kl sentral and the covered car park is rm2 per day. It is only 20 minutes travelling time between the two station, the train schedule is fixed, and the interval during peak hour is 15 minutes. It also removes the stress of driving, worry of flooding, risks of getting saman, etc. I used to drive and have to leave early in the morning to avoid traffic, but thankful to this train, I can leave anytime because I am sure what to expect.
2) My wife cooks so lack of outside food is ok for us. She doesn't like outside food anyway. smile.gif
3) My condo unit in puchong at one point has similar problem with foreigner "students", but now all clear, the effort from jmc is important but I guess cbj condos have too many investors who don't care to spend the effort. I will move to landed unit so hopefully ok, otherwise I will spend the effort to make it ok since it is strata property.
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Plus for me to park in kl is RM300 per month, plus petrol plus toll plus car maintenance would be much more than the rm400 i spend on train. And the train only take 20 minutes....
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post Jun 14 2019, 03:37 PM

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I am not familiar with high rise in cbj but I saw some people here are very negative about that but contradicting I saw the news about edusphere some time ago that it was fully sold within hours. https://www.thestar.com.my/metro/metro-news...ours-of-launch/

Why?
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post Jun 14 2019, 04:01 PM

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When I search for landed property few years ago, I of course did visit many development in many location, and I realised there is no such thing as super cheap but all good, it is always a balance and depend on each person life style, working location, etc. The developers have done all the research and they would not price something so cheap but with best materials best location etc. You get what you pay.

My personal experience: A lelong unit in my condo with attractive price, when I know the unit number, I know why it is lelong because it is located below machinery room etc. So I did not bid. But we can't make it as the price for the whole condo. There are reasons it was cheap, although some "clever" guy won it at high price smile.gif

When my friends consult me about cbj, I never hard sell, I just tell them the reasons for me to move there and what to expect, I even tell them some people said it is a ghost town so be careful , the decision is theirs. I do see more people around me start buying into cbj landed property, which as I said I really don't like too crowded.... The plan was to retire then go back kampung.
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post Jun 14 2019, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 14 2019, 09:47 PM)
How about taking LRT to KL ? by parking at Puchong ?

https://www.myrapid.com.my/fares-and-paymen...ets/go-cashless
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I am now stay in puchong and near to lrt but I rather drive to putrajaya sentral to take the 20 minutes train.... I did it for few years already, I tried lrt also but still klia transit is the best.
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post Jun 15 2019, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Jun 15 2019, 09:40 AM)
Lrt still ok la
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Depend where do you travel between. Not many lrt station/mrt station can beat the time of ERL in reaching kl sentral. You have to remember ERL has a fixed schedule so the waiting time is very minimum. Lrt is always crowded during peak hour as well and stop at many stations.

In fact that's how I lock-in cbj. I surveyed along the ERL line to find suitable landed property.
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post Jun 18 2019, 06:55 PM

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Everybody have to responsible for their own decision. I suggest don't skip cbj if you are seriously looking for a property, I am not saying cbj is the best, but see with your own eye and chat with whoever staying there, if not suit you then it's OK, at least you have done your works.

As I said I surveyed many places and what cbj "as is" are good enough for me. A lot of other places may be cheaper but are offering future things. The companies I can work with are mainly in kl center, ERL and mex are good and convenient to travel for me. By the way, I don't think cbj landed property is expensive, they usually have bigger built up, freehold, strata (personally I want strata property).

For investment, my friend bought a pr1ma in cbj and she is very happy with the rental (I know pr1ma should not rent out). Again I am not familiar with high-rise in cbj. But I am open to buy one in cbj or other places (now look look see see, when really have fire sales then can take action).
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post Jun 18 2019, 06:57 PM

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Just be open, don't because of few people made bad comments here then skip cbj, don't because few people here say cbj is good then buy on impulse also. Be open, do own study, and make decision.
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post Jun 18 2019, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(kekhitam @ Jun 18 2019, 08:24 PM)
Well, if have school nearby and abundance IT company for sure its gonna be my top choice.

Edit: ops for retirement right? Yeahhh, why not. If serenia got what we want, we can consider it
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Last week passed by a sunsuria city booth, want to sell me service apartment small built up at 300k+, not cheap per sqft, it will come with future school, future outlet, future..... I don't really buy into future things....
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post Jun 18 2019, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Jun 18 2019, 10:32 PM)
Err really?
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Why not? Don't set limit on yourself.

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post Jun 19 2019, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(TheRant @ Jun 19 2019, 04:05 AM)
Wow. Just wow. I am already sensing mk ocean.

Have you considered the time and cost of transportation?
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Definitely considered time and cost if you read my previous posts ERL is 20 minutes to kl sentral.

Try yourself and you would know if it is difficult to reach kl City.

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post Jun 19 2019, 08:13 AM

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Why people willing to set up a 24 hours bookstore in cbj, why the big king Henry int school is in cbj, why SJKC is now in cbj, why ROT sold out so quick, why mrt is coming to cbj?? All for ghost?? smile.gif

See with your own eye and make decision.

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post Jun 19 2019, 08:57 AM

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I see many people only know how to critic (not only here, also in fb etc.), although they don't know the full story. Critic their boss like they themselves better than the boss.... I personally think "critic" is an obstacle to success.

People choose what they want to see, if you set your mind cbj is a ghost town, you can find many things to support. If you set your mind cbj is a good place, you can also find many things to support. The good for me may not be good for you. Everyone should learn how to make decision.

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post Jun 19 2019, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(oucheev @ Jun 19 2019, 08:58 AM)
How's the parking there? I know its RM2 per day but enough parking? What time is the best time to park there.
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Enough parking in the morning, I usually arrive 8 am and no problem to find parking. More difficult if it is holiday eve (because a lot people park there to airport) but still can find parking. There are open car park also.
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post Jun 19 2019, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(oucheev @ Jun 19 2019, 09:06 AM)
Thanks for the update. Really considering buying a condo there.
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For condo do think twice, it may be true with over supply issue. Do your own study before making decision.

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post Jun 19 2019, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(TheRant @ Jun 19 2019, 05:03 PM)
Have you check the price of transportation  in the first place? You really talk like an mlmer. For a monthly pass to travel to kl sentral cost around 350 per month.

Incredible that you can Actually recommend ppl working in kl to buy in cyberjaya.
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Incredible to see your comments. I am doing it for past few years using ERL. It cost about rm400 including parking. To drive to kl, parking alone is rm300, if plus petrol plus toll plus car maintenance plus stress, you calculate.
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post Jun 19 2019, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(TheRant @ Jun 19 2019, 05:44 PM)
That is what I have been implying.
Guess he cannot take the hint.
To pay an extra 400-500 dollars just to travel from Cyberjaya.
That is nearly the cost of a rented room man.

It's ok. As I have said. The way people talk here.

And he claim that he has not "invested" in Cyberjaya yet.

Talking to people here is the same as talking to a mlmer. Seriously.
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Its you who cannot make the calculation. Its your choice and i will let you be.
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post Jun 19 2019, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jun 19 2019, 05:22 PM)
What he is saying: If you work in KL, you might as well live somewhere closer. It may be better for your mental health too, since not everyone working in KL can get to their offices through ERL.
   
His comments also expose some people's short-sightedness. Just because you currently work in an office that is reachable by the ERL, does not mean that you will continue to work there. What if you get a better, irresistable employment offer but without the logistical benefits, for example in PJ, Ara Damansara, or simply offices in KL that are not reachable by trains - what if you need to take multiple public transports (ERL then LRT then MRT) to get to your new office? Would you accept a 2-hour transit, which is not much better than being stuck in the traffic jam, time-wise? 

Kekhitam mentioned it herself, "as long as my company does not kick me out". What if they do and you end up having to travel to KL after-all with a car during normal working hours? She would know, her husband faced those situations - with better offers making him ride his bike to KL - isn't that dangerous? Now he has endangered his own life riding an inherently dangerous mode of transportation, just because he decided to "settle" so far away from a location with an abundance of employment opportunities - as mentioned earlier, the MSC status locations have spread to KL, companies have no need to anchor themselves to Cyberjaya. And why isn't her husband taking the ERL like you? Most likely due to the fact that his office is not practically reachable by these other modes of public transportation, so he had to ride his own. He is "lucky" that he knows how to ride, would it be prudent to start taking riding lessons just to beat the KL traffic?

Most people would just revert to driving their cars all the way to KL. From Cyberjaya. I just had to make that unfortunate trip today to Prince Court, left at 7:30am, arrived at 9am thanks to everyone else on the road.

Life situation changes and you are better off hedging a little against that. 

My previous landlord has a few units in Cyberjaya, he was proud to claim that he was one of the "pioneers of Cyberjaya". Last I heard he was trying to dispose all of his units due to monthly bleeding cash to prop up his installments - it didn't help that I left. These couples are what I would generally-speaking, call smart, astute, professionals. But even they fell into the traps that are property-investments and investing in Cyberjaya.
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My friend, can you tell me which property can offer 22x85 freehold strata, within 1 mil, and can reach kl sentral by a 20 minutes train? They are many other considerations also for example ease to send the kids to school etc. as highlighted much earlier but you choose to ignore.
Kl sentral has many means to go many places.... But it is up to people to decide.
Mex is another choice.
Driving 1.5 hours is pretty normal in kl, I used to stay in pj and drive to kl is always 1 hour+ during peak hours. That's why I appreciate the trains. And even you stay near to kl, many of my colleagues are still spending more than 1 hour to drive to work. Again that's why I appreciate the trains.
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post Jun 19 2019, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jun 19 2019, 06:03 PM)
OK. And if you get a better, irresistible offer for a company with an office without access to trains? For example, in Mont Kiara (plenty of great companies in this location).

Back to the car you go.
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Only few companies can offer my pay and all easily reachable by trains....I am telling the truth and up to people to believe or not. Kl sentral has lrt, mrt, monorail, etc.

We can't fulfil all assumptions and what if in our life.... What if I buy this house later the developer bankrupt etc. What if my neighbour is not good, what if.... There can be thousands of what if.

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