It was never my intention to compare the transport cost in the first place. Incredible. I doubt many ppl knows he actually travels from cyberjays daily.

Guys, whatever you guys are bickering about here are just about personal preferences. We are all coming from difference background, have different financial commitment and different priority in life. To label someone negatively just because he shares different opinion than you does not portray any maturity. RM 400 values differently between people. Some might found it absurd to spend that much monthly for commuting while others think its worth it in exchange of the environment which he is getting. So, stop labeling, generalizing and lets discuss in a more appropriate manner. 
If you do gained experiences and learnt something from it that is worth to share in this thread, please do share it but to shove it unto someone's throat for not accepting your opinion is immature from my opinion.

Anyway, this is again, just my opinion. Its up to you to take it or not but I definitely not shoving it on your throat

See? "Grandmother views". tak habis2 with the labeling, the name-calling. Grow up, be more civilized, and discuss the topic at hand. For example:

1. I asserted that Cyberjaya is a ghost town
2. You asked for proof to back my assetions
3. I showed pictures of empty units
4. You claim that without checking the "tennat" list there is no way to be sure
5. I claim that at times, we have to work with what we have.
6. You reject my reasoning
7. I pay a visit to a number of condos and take a picture of the empty lots, with no cars meaning no tenancy
8. You claim that not everyone needs cars, public transport is good enough for some
9. I assert that public transport is no good in Cyberjaya, seldom see any busses here. No trams too. residents  don't have access to last-mile
10. You claim that that is only my anecdotes, asked for proof
11. I show you the bus schedules that don't even cover most of the condos, and with our weather making walking under the hot sun uncomfortable, strengthening my assertion that the empty lots prove no or low tenancy of the condos

I don't know why I need to talk about engaging people in an online discussion to you guys. Why are you all like this? Why are you so... basic? I notice this basic defensive behavior, where name-calling and personal attacks reign supreme to only typically exist in Cyberjaya threads (as far as property threads are concerned). You refuse to engage me academically and resort to what you do best at that level.

Shelter can come in the form of rental. The property that you are staying in doesn't have to be bought, especially not if the return (capital appreciation) is lower than the mortgage rates.

For example, let's say you bought a condo for own stay and it experienced a capital appreciation of just 2%, while you bought it at 100% margin of financing with a 4.5% mortgage rate. Each day you would be losing money. Instead, if you had rented the same place, you would end up with more preserved wealth.

How much value is condo on the other side could be higher?

Cbj residents are certainly not stupid, just that many bought on emotion or sentiment value. For reasons why there are many foreclosure in cbj.

Except new launch during 2011-2014; there is only a very small percentage of units of a particular project are transacted at any one time. Isn't these numbers perceived as market value? If these transacted was used as benchmark during uptrend, could similarly used as benchmark during other time.

If one claims nigeria, Afghanistan, Syria and Iraq are unsafe country for holiday; do you need to experience to prove it?

This is the problem with Malaysians. They accept these long commuting hours because they have already bought and settled down with little or no recourse to relocate. Thus the shrinking number of options when new opportunities present themselves

Imagine trying to relocate but you find that the sellable-Market-Value has shrinked below your outstanding balance, and that the rental prices wouldn't cover the installment that the difference is much larger than the monetary cost of commuting.

So you end up stuck living in the city and having to commute. This would undoubtedly affect your mental health

This is also what icemanfx means when he said buying properties severely affect your job mobility. What if you get a great job offer in Johor, but you are unable to accept it because you are tethered to a property in Cyberjaya, unable to sell it off without paying back to the bank (top up the difference) and the rental is too low that you couldnt cover the difference with the new job in Johor?

I don't hate Cyberjaya, but it is a city that has failed to live to its expectations despite all the tongkat it has received by the federal government. I am just calling it out.

Part of preparations is research. Part of research is going to the forums and reading what people say about the unit or location you are buying

I am providing such on-the-ground information as a resident of Cyberjaya. Things none of you share about, like the playground, the road conditions, the traffic, the commercial uptake (or downtake), the traffic lights and more. I also talk about the macro market of properties in Cyberjaya, such as the depressing prices of some condo units, the high backlog of maintenance non-payments of some condos, as well as what to expect from these problems - no maintenance money means the condo will be run down in the near future like Domain 5.

I provided all these info to prepare people what to expect before buying properties in Cyberjaya, because i know plenty of people regretted doing so - like my previous landlord who has at least 3 units in Cyber and are aching to dispose them - he is not sharing his regrets in the open obviously. But these are true stories, something which will never come from any of you.

Like i said, i am not biased. Cyberjaya's success or failures have no bearing in my life. If anything, people who have invested and have vested interests in Cyberjaya are the ones who are most biased. And these are the people who are trying to stop me from sharing the flipped side of the coin.

i know these places but not sure about the units. What are the built-up area for these condos at the prices you mentioned?

I personally will pick tamarind suites. I think this will do better than skypark. So far MCT haven't prove that they can manage a mall. Skypark is ready but u don't hear any plan for them to open. I remember there is rumours or news that they want to sell the mall sometime back.

Anyway, I think centrus mall has more potential than skypark when NSK is open beside it in the future. I really don't know what is setia haruman plan, till today the mall is not open. If they can get dpulze management in, I think it can complement dpulze and connect the malls with covered walk way or bridge.

There are two hospitals near cbj. Given cbj population, cbi hospital is likely underutilize.

Time will tell.
Was 20+ wip towers presumption? Is overhang in cbj presumption? Is low auction price presumption?

I noticed that a number of Cyberaya investors or those with vested interests in this thread enjoy resorting to the Ad Hominem fallacy

Ad Hominem: Attacking the person making the argument, rather than the argument itself, when the attack on the person is completely irrelevant to the argument the person is making.

I am very well aware of it as the victim of the abuse in this very thread. Racist remarks have been hurled toward me (claiming that I am not a Muslim), not to mention someone saying that I am not a Malay but an Indian/Mamak (which has no bearing to my criticisms of Cyberjaya), while others have claimed that I am trying to promote my mortgage services (which makes no sense, since I should be telling people to buy properties if I want to have them engage my mortgage services), etc. There was even a person here who claimed me to be "Lansi" as if that has any bearing to my arguments. These people were unable to defend against my assertions, so they resorted to personal attacks and to some extent, name calling.

And the above is another example of an Ad Hominem abuse on a fellow forummer who did not even post his comment in this thread (he was simply quoted). Instead of defending against his assertions, you attacked the person in question as an attempt to bring his points down with him.

It shows desperation and only strengthens your opponents' points, at the expense of the defenders looking weak and defeated. It also makes this sub/thread seem immature. Being emotional when proven wrong is no excuse to lash out at others. You can either take the criticisms on the chin or you can argue and prove your opponents wrong. But childishly resorting to ad hominem is not something you should even consider even as a last resort.

p/s on another note, I am also disappointed that a number of Cyberjaya investors in this thread resort to racism as well as elitism in their discussions. Cyberjaya was poised to be a smart city; but when it failed, apparently its residents failed as well.