Since we are just chatting and I am not advising anyone in any professional capacity, I would recommend prospects to avoid any high-rises at developers' SPA prices. There are plenty of options in the firesale (desperate) and lelong listings. The older condos get a bad rap; in general each time a new condo gets built in the vicinity the older condos prices will generally depress. Keep note that depress in this context does not necessarily mean "reduced" in nominal terms, but reduced in strength of activity. Meaning if the prices were not depressed due to the external activity (new condo being erected), the prices of the older condos may have increased at higher rates.

As it is though, a good number of condos in Cyberjaya actually lost its value and are sold at below SPA prices.

I cannot provide evidence (due to legal reasons) but I know a good number of high-rises in Cyberjaya that are being transacted at marked-up prices. That seems to be the norm there; agents and owners can't do much against that market force (supply and demand). Keep in mind though that the agents don't want to depress the market any further, but they know the prices may not be transactable at their list prices, so there is plenty of room for negotiations.

Avoid properties with huge maintenance-payment backlog. At some point, the backlog will reach a point where it is not reversible and the condo maintenance will face a downward spiral. There is a new condo/complex with individuals owing up to RM17k to the management, that's probably something you would want to avoid. Some may claim that once transacted, the amount due will be paid-off, but if the condo is run down, will people want to purchase those units? It will be a spiral of bad maintenance and dropping value, like Domain area.
 
The problem with Cyberjaya: it changed its objective midway, making it somewhat of a "bastard child". Other cities were created with a clear objective in mind - a satellite city (subang jaya), an industrial city (klang cities), an administrative city (putrajaya), etc. Cybejaya tried to be a "tech hub", which failed, then it opened up and became a "property city", which also failed spectacularly. If you love living here, that is fine, but investing here is questionable unless you get it at great firesale/lelong prices

U mean the padi house opposite tamarind right? Not the one beside oldtown.

For that the set not bad la... Chicken rice or some noodle with iced coffee at around rm10.

As if these 5 things only happening in cbj.

I guess some coming from Puchong South.

I will be moving to cyberjaya next year and registering my daughter next year. My IC already change to my cyberjaya address so hopefully I won't encounter any problem next year.

There is group 4: buy liao but shares dying so die2 protect in denial mode.

Pretty obvious most belongs to which group.

4 years old. We can only register when she's 5 years old via online.

Then you also find many buy because others bought; buy on their gut and feeling, and ignoring facts and reality.

For residence, what's good for own stay is often not for investors and vv.

Most bought cbj a few years ago because it was heavily promoted, in contrary to your w.b quote.

Most people go Jalan Jalan at either busy shopping mall or vacant park.

For reasons, only about 4% of adults in this country have over us$100k net worth.

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2019...ark-mrt-station
Cyberjaya is 2nd Phase. About 4-5 years until this arrives, can Cyberjaya investors hold on to their properties for much longer? Is critical mass for multiple auctions drawing close?

Cbj mrt should start operating in 2022 as per mrt website, unless it is just changed. But I don't think I would need to rely on mrt, fastest way is still using klia transit, arrive kl sentral in 20 minutes then can go everyway with public transport. Otherwise drive via mex etc.

Compare to many other township, at least mrt are coming (not promised to come), highways are built (not promised to build), hospital is coming (not promised to come), srjkc is there (not promised to be there and pointing on empty land), 24 hours bookstore is available (again not "promise").

Everybody should be more open, then make decision. There are reasons why successful people are minority.

Only about 4% of adults in this country have over us$100k net worth.

Ahh so nice but with half million price tag i don't know if I'll ever afford that.

The location is so near to my workplace i can just walk by foot instead of waking up 2 hours earlier as i currently live in Puchong.

Certainly.
Developers, re agents and those with vested interest may paint a rosy picture/future and reality could be vastly different.