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> Military Thread V24, Celebrating 60th Malaysian Merdeka Day

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SUSKLboy92
post Mar 23 2017, 01:32 AM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Mar 22 2017, 11:25 PM)
sgpv batch 2?  blink.gif  blink.gif
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Dafuq
LCS build 0.5 out of 6 already looking at LCS AAW?
Will we operate Aster 30?!

QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 23 2017, 12:57 AM)
Should be around usd70mil.
Unless Boeing close the production reopening and low production would be very expensive.
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Should still be produced for some time to come
Future USN carrier air wing should be 24 F-35C 24 F/A-18E + 3 or 4 more F/A-18 Growler
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post Mar 23 2017, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Mar 22 2017, 06:33 PM)
globaleye is just and newer erieye on different platform
now you make me crave fro bunneh satey
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globaleye mainly add surface radar to provide superior surface monitoring, means can also do sea radar seach, AIS detection, etc。
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post Mar 23 2017, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Mar 23 2017, 01:32 AM)
Dafuq
LCS build 0.5 out of 6 already looking at LCS AAW?
Will we operate Aster 30?!
Should still be produced for some time to come
Future USN carrier air wing should be 24 F-35C 24 F/A-18E + 3 or 4 more F/A-18 Growler
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base on our navy use US standard weapon missile
LCS AAW possible with 4 fix panal Sea Master 400 radar + SM2 missile (wish) + CAMM-ER+ SeaRAM2 for 3 layer defense。

This post has been edited by waja2000: Mar 23 2017, 01:38 AM
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post Mar 23 2017, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 23 2017, 01:57 AM)
Should be around usd70mil.
Unless Boeing close the production reopening and low production would be very expensive.
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harga tahun brp tu? biggrin.gif
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post Mar 23 2017, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Mar 23 2017, 01:29 AM)
hopefully get FREMM-ER .... but with at lease 48-64 VLS.
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I'll settle for 40 Sylver
32 Aster 30, 16 Crotale Navale and 4 SCALP brows.gif
That'll make the neighbours sit up rclxms.gif

.....while I'm dreaming, Miss Universe and 5 million dollars too... sigh doh.gif doh.gif

QUOTE(waja2000 @ Mar 23 2017, 01:37 AM)
base on our navy use US standard weapon missile
LCS AAW possible with 4 fix panal Sea Master 400 radar + SM2 missile (wish) + CAMM-ER+ SeaRAM2 for 3 layer defense。
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Rojak giler
French ship, US + British missiles laugh.gif

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patt_sue
post Mar 23 2017, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Mar 23 2017, 01:27 AM)
i guest F18 ASH block3 flyway price should be usd 80-90 。。。usd 15mi for ammunition, usd 20 mi for 5 year parts/service. l
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SH block iii is still at the demonstrator phase. although trump had ordered a study between SH and f35, its not yet a sure case.
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post Mar 23 2017, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(patt_sue @ Mar 23 2017, 01:41 AM)
SH block iii is still at the demonstrator phase. although trump had ordered a study between SH and f35, its not yet a sure case.
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That fler tokok only
Take credit for savings which are already programmed
But his predecessor take credit for Osama too, so laugh.gif
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post Mar 23 2017, 01:43 AM

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QUOTE(mumbly297 @ Mar 22 2017, 03:37 PM)
This best deal if offer. Anyway French tak buat Awac or AEw plane. They buy from US.
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France Airbus have C295 AEW ... but radar/system is from Israel+Thales.
if got money can fund project A319 Erieye or A319 AEW with C295 AEW radar system also can
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post Mar 23 2017, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(patt_sue @ Mar 23 2017, 01:41 AM)
SH block iii is still at the demonstrator phase. although trump had ordered a study between SH and f35, its not yet a sure case.
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SH block iii long time done project already, and offer to few country AF, include RMAF since 2013, but so far only Kuwaiti is order F18 not sure what version.
off couse if customize extra future module different story。

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post Mar 23 2017, 02:13 AM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Mar 23 2017, 01:38 AM)
I'll settle for 40 Sylver
32 Aster 30, 16 Crotale Navale and 4 SCALP brows.gif
That'll make the neighbours sit up rclxms.gif

.....while I'm dreaming, Miss Universe and 5 million dollars too... sigh doh.gif doh.gif
Rojak giler
French ship, US + British missiles laugh.gif
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but sylver can't do quadpack missile。 using MK41 can have ESSM or future CAMM-ER & JSM missile VLS... CAMM quardpack so far only develop for Mk41 and ExLS vls
SCALP i like very like too, but under international weapon control can't export missile over 300km range。 so France can't export to as。

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post Mar 23 2017, 02:25 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Mar 23 2017, 02:13 AM)
but sylver can't do quadpack missile。 using MK41 can have ESSM or future CAMM-ER & JSM missile VLS...  CAMM quardpack so far only develop for Mk41  and ExLS vls
SCALP  i like very like too, but under international weapon control can't export missile over 300km range。 so France can't export to as。
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Well, unless DCNS offer Mk 41 VLS so we can fit in SM2, ESSMs and JSM, we're stuck
Sylver can quadpack Crotale... alternatively, mix MICA and Aster 30 - don't know if there are space+weight savings there

Nah, don't really care for SCALP - much rather have 12 or even 16 shots NSM brows.gif

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Mar 22 2017, 11:25 PM)
sgpv batch 2?  blink.gif  blink.gif
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QUOTE(patt_sue @ Mar 22 2017, 11:48 PM)
bigger LCS?

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6 gowind + 6 FREMM for Malaysia. One can dream...

but based on budget allocation and our current building speed for the first Gowind.... maybe 2040 at least before we can see the new navy taking shape. by that time neighbouring countries probably on another level....
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post Mar 23 2017, 02:34 AM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Mar 23 2017, 01:38 AM)
harga tahun brp tu?  biggrin.gif
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Ini harga minus all the premium stuff. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Mar 22 2017, 11:25 PM)
sgpv batch 2?  blink.gif  blink.gif
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They are pushing the 2nd batch and 3 batch
as all 3 batch have different type of role

QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Mar 23 2017, 01:32 AM)
Dafuq
LCS build 0.5 out of 6 already looking at LCS AAW?
Will we operate Aster 30?!
Should still be produced for some time to come
Future USN carrier air wing should be 24 F-35C 24 F/A-18E + 3 or 4 more F/A-18 Growler
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LCS duit navy sendiri should be ok
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QUOTE(patt_sue @ Mar 23 2017, 01:14 AM)
btw, this is dsca annoucement about kuwait SH...10.1b for 40 units
(more expensive than brazil offer probably because of more services/support related)..

btw,the avionics almost similar to the brazil's offer
so it seem that these are the standardized specs for new built SH...
http://dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/governmen...ircraft-support
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The latest super hornet version.
Huhu with all the premium.
adding new cockpit, cft and reduce rcs.
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QUOTE(patt_sue @ Mar 22 2017, 11:48 PM)
bigger LCS?

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It will be the same Gowind hull lengthen. If its is a AAV most probable Ester15/30. The same hull but different configuration. Concept used by south korea and US. So no new class of hull and will be cheaper in long run as BHS has the know how.
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Mar 23 2017, 02:37 AM)
They are pushing the 2nd batch and 3 batch
as all 3 batch have different type of role
LCS duit navy sendiri should be ok
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1st batch is ASW

2nd batch is AAR

3rd batch is? Combined ASW/AAR? Multirole?

Anyway based on dcns response, it look like the aaw would quite similar to our neighbour formidable class vessel. Meaning syvler vls to similarize with the existing batch but diff different radar system.

High possibility of the APAR radar on the intergrated mast system.. somehow we are hooked onto the idea.
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post Mar 23 2017, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 23 2017, 07:19 AM)
1st batch is ASW

2nd batch is AAR

3rd batch is? Combined ASW/AAR? Multirole?

Anyway based on dcns response, it look like the aaw would quite similar to our neighbour formidable class vessel. Meaning syvler vls to similarize with the existing batch but diff different radar system.

High possibility of the APAR radar on the intergrated mast system.. somehow we are hooked onto the idea.
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With MPSS coming, TLDM need top cover escort. So most probably TLDM will have MPSS next with the LCS batch 2 build in parallel. The LCS batch 1 and 2 will be the escort ship for any amphibious operation.
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post Mar 23 2017, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Mar 23 2017, 02:30 AM)
6 gowind + 6 FREMM for Malaysia. One can dream...

but based on budget allocation and our current building speed for the first Gowind.... maybe 2040 at least before we can see the new navy taking shape. by that time neighbouring countries probably on another level....
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if see price, FREMM not really expensive if not TOT/IP.
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post Mar 23 2017, 09:17 AM

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LIMA already 3rd day..any promising news for ATM new procurement?

3rd day already i can go LIMA..just arrived in langkawi

haih

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