Whoever said Acer no good, you really listen to too much rumours. You're not helping here. Acer is ok one lar.

Also if people ask you buy other than Centrino, you shouldn't believe them. For notebook, dun buy other than centrino. Else, you'll regret

hmm not my first post ...
my bf using my a/c to post la
so edited lo

This post has been edited by jaynice: Oct 17 2004, 11:51 PM

First post is spam. I think you're heading for a disastrous outing in LYN.

You have the money, get Alienware....hahahaha

true2...

buying a notebook is all about buying a brand...

i used to have a toshiba satellite..very reliable..and faster than other notebooks in its class..

and also don't forget reputable brand means they have steady and tough construction...go and see urself..

3 brands that i confirm ok..

fujitsu
toshiba
IBM

This post has been edited by igor_is300: Oct 18 2004, 07:56 AM

i owned a acer notebook too...so far now already 4 years old...still serve me vr well.i think acer laptop is ok..if tight budget then choose acer rather than go for local brand. my fren owned a local brand laptop which in the 1st few month oledi go back rma few times~mine acer so far only have 1 keyboard failure...after send back to rma then ok edi~(the rma only 1 day which i bring it to acer care center at KLCC)

buying a notebook is ALL about buying a brand?
then, its sad to say u have fall prey to a marketting scheme

fujitsu: yeah sure they are nice, but expensive for the specs they offer. (we are talkin bout the expensive models here, the lower-end specs, hehe same with other brands only)
toshiba: lebih kurang sama (but their CSV-enabled series quite nice)
ibm: isn't it the time for another new design? (yeah they are solid and sturdy)
acer: the new line of laptops with mob 9700 (When it comes to price....Acer is downright cheap for branded notebooks)

lets say ur fren is looking for a notebook with discrete and powerful graphics, and his budget line is so and so, dun tell me u gonna recommend "Fujitsu rocks as Alwiz" even tho it's with shared memory architecture for graphics and the price over his budget? back then laptop with discrete graphic on board is considered premium or high end, now this has change with mid level laptop with the same specs. wat u pay is wat u get, choose wisely.

cheers. just my 2cents.

This post has been edited by 8431: Oct 18 2004, 10:01 AM

my experience:

COMPAQ cheap + lighter...

yeah..yeah i'm fallen into a marketting scheme

but u must remember... notebook is never suitable for graphic workstation...

am i right..? if u want powerful graphic workstation then buy an SGI workstation ..and 21 inch crt..much better right..
why must u waste ur effort and money into tiny power and tiny screen eventhough it has mobility raddy 9700 inside..

notebook is only suitable for spreadsheet, a little game, internet apps..and other lighter apps.. so think wisely..

people buy notebook bcos of its mobility...therefore solid construction of the body is a must..

mana tau ur lcd crack bcos of accident since the back cover of the lcd too flimsy .... who knows..


if u really want real graphic power with mobility( i don't believe it) then just settle for apple powerbook..

i didn't say ACER is not good.. i know acer is offering good performance/value...

so it depends on ur budget..if u can afford a high-end toshiba/fujitsu then go ahead...if u cannot then just settle for a good bargain notebook...

dun flame me..hehehhe..


by the way i'm laughing when i'm reading this "Fujitsu rocks as Alwiz"

This post has been edited by igor_is300: Oct 18 2004, 02:10 PM

hmm...i neva mention workstation graphic in the 1st place.
and i'm also neither bias nor supportin any certain brands.



pay that much amount of many but still stuck with Intel Extreme/ATI shared/Gefore Go graphics? lol, not really a wise way 2 spend for a 'high-end' laptop.

fujitsu: only one model AFAIK with ATI M11 64MB, E8010, RRP RM7988
toshiba: erm Satelite M30-7301,731 & s760B(GeForce GO fx5200 w/32/64MB) RRP RM5999, RM6999 & RM8599

weight wise they are around 2.8kg~3.0kg...hmm are they any lighter?
Sony Vaio S (PCG-S18GP ) is light! RRP RM8488 tho with its measly ATI M9 32MB

ermm..it's not me who said "Fujitsu rock as Alwiz", just quotin it from someone else


cheers. just my 2cents.

This post has been edited by 8431: Oct 19 2004, 02:21 AM

for a semi-desktop replacement... i think dell is good for high end stuff....

i feel laptop is only for those who need processing power on the run, need to do fairly much graphical presentation+want to save setting up time doing presentation on the go. no way u can recreate the intense graphical workaholic from such a small object.

buying laptop i feel, is fitting ur budget with what u need it to do for u. if u need it for fun and gaming, get alienware/acer amd64 series that makes sure u nvr leave ur adapter at home.
if u need long battery time, get those 12" n set everything to run slow n hopefully u will squeeze approx. 7 hours on certain laptops such as sony.
if u need a balance in everything, the norm, 15.4" rad9700 acers r pretty good buy. if u r bias against acer, get hp/compaq or dell, which sells for roughly 500 to 1000 more expensive at roughly the same spec. however, on a laptop, a 9200 n 9700 doesnt show much difference coz ur FPS game will still be lagging since the constrains is at the snail hdd spinning at 4200rpm... cant really get the speed of a 7.2k monster..

btw, 15.4", u cant avoid 3kg... nothing is light... even if it's 2.something kg... u will need to carry the adapters in case u need to use it for more than 2 hours... or some say, 4 hours on certain laptops...

i owns an acer 1681.. so far satisfy with the speed it provides. i nvr used a p4 b4.. so far only hv a 1.4G AMD t-bird. speed is identical to my desktop. at certain times, the lappy is even a bit faster/smoother.

if u go by paper, pentium m or the so-called centrino processors, they r actually faster when compared to P4 at speed about 1 time faster than the pentium m. (check at tomshardware's review)

if ur constraint is at budget, get amd athlon at price less than 3900, including necessary upgrade such as upgrading ur RAM to 512mb at least.
if ur constraint is at size/weight, dont ask n dont look further, get 12" ONLY n dont forget transmeta...
if ur constraint is speed.. forget it... laptop is not for u.. get a desktop instead.. or... SFF may b...
if u hv a little bit of patience, a little bit of strength to carry 3kg, a little bit of budget... get a laptop...
if u r clumsy n expect to drop ur laptop, get ibm (since they claim they hv the best shock proof system)... or those military class...
brand? it's just a matter of luck n preference... nothing wont fail...
even myself.. i consider unlucky since the first unit i get has a dead pixel.. but exchanged... (touch wood) hopefully my lappy wont fail me n will work with me for the coming years...

p/s: no doubt, acer lappy is a bit on the plasticky side.. but considering it's price... u got to accept it... if not, where does the money to cover ur dothan 1.5 n rad 9700+15.4" 1280x800 comes? somemore a laptop is a fragile thing...it's difference from trashing ur desktop... i like nice, shinny alloy covers too.. but at a price that i dont hv the luxury to spend...

so which one is recomended?

hahaha u read so many commecnt n ask which one they recommand ar?

luckily i use a ibook..so no need to worry about this and that..hehe

pretty happy with my Powerbook Ti 15". wide screen. thin. and so powerful. no adware spyware virus problems.

how much u bought it?
u might try to buy fr 8431 the lansi nb seller here since he so action at here.

woo..i feel flame in progress

cheers. just my dua sen.

peace guys dun start bakar

alienware is da best...if u so rich