QUOTE(conxtion @ Nov 3 2017, 11:55 PM)
Also, what are you doing, asking about Hell contacts?There is no Hell in Taoism.
If you are a Taoist, you should not believe there is a Hell.
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Nov 4 2017, 07:24 AM
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Nov 4 2017, 07:48 AM
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There are 4 Hells in mainstream Taoist dogma:
豐都 泰山 血湖 峽石 these are kind of Prison for dead who committed crimes |
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Nov 4 2017, 10:48 AM
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Besides the Heavenly Skies, the Fantasy Island 蓬萊仙島 消遙快活 located at East of Mainland, it is now Japan where we can retired this teaching.
西方淨土 極樂世界 Western heavenly land is adopted from Buddhism. |
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Nov 4 2017, 11:14 AM
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All the Organized Religions would paint a wonderful hope such as Heaven & Nirvana, at the main time induces fear of Hell & Punishment, ie. Carrot 🥕& Stick to Guide for Desinated Purpose.
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Nov 4 2017, 11:57 AM
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I have experienced illusion of Hell & Heaven during my ICU stay. The powerful spiritual being has showed it talent. At a blink of thought, ICU became Caribbean Sea Side with warm & windy leisure scenery as if in the heaven. The next moment, illusion changed to Volcano like hell with hot lava while my physical posture stays in ICU unmoved. With Carrot & Stick, my choice to bow?
Buddhism says this is the test. Luckily I’m a Taoist Priest. Thanks & no thank. I remained myself. This post has been edited by JasonAubama: Nov 4 2017, 12:00 PM |
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Nov 4 2017, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE(JasonAubama @ Nov 4 2017, 11:57 AM) I have experienced illusion of Hell & Heaven during my ICU stay. The powerful spiritual being has showed it talent. At a blink of thought, ICU became Caribbean Sea Side with warm & windy leisure scenery as if in the heaven. The next moment, illusion changed to Volcano like hell with hot lava while my physical posture stays in ICU unmoved. With Carrot & Stick, my choice to bow? Buddhism says this is the test. Luckily I’m a Taoist Priest. Thanks & no thank. I remained myself. This post has been edited by will4848: Nov 15 2017, 08:16 PM |
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Nov 4 2017, 03:06 PM
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I don’t want to speculate but let’s take a psychology approach. Your dream reflected your desires at the unconscious/subconscious level.
1. You missing your Parents. 2. You hoping for a son. 3. Our memory of dreams are short, only remember few minutes before wake up. 6am should be your time to wake up, toilet, or uneasy body posture for too long unknowingly. I study my dreams with paper & pen whenever I could remember. 4. Dog may smell 20x & hearing 4x better than human. There might be more reasons other than spiritual beings around. 5. I don’t know Reincarnation timing except my Dad’s Ghost friend 200+ years old told him that he leave us for reincarnation & lost contact since then. The other case was a friend who did some black magic expanding his wealth earlier, his soul was vanished within 100 days & we couldn’t summon him. 6. Indeed Dreams, Dogs behavior may relate to spirituality but not necessarily. You may explore further when developing your spiritual strength. This post has been edited by JasonAubama: Nov 4 2017, 05:09 PM |
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Nov 4 2017, 03:15 PM
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https://www.stevenaitchison.co.uk/7-ways-to...eing-religious/
Spirituality without Religious. The principle is simple, relax our mind by focusing on some healthy activities such as exercise, walking in the park, gardening, movie, arts, yoga, meditation, QiGong or just doing nothing. Take for example if we decided to sit for 15min by not falling asleep, trying to free up all our thought, we may play 3rd Eye Opening, out of body, lucid dreams, meditation, or even Kitaro soul music. Once maintaining for 21 days at same timing, we would experiencing much healthier mind. This post has been edited by JasonAubama: Nov 4 2017, 06:25 PM |
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Nov 4 2017, 08:04 PM
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will4848 back to Taoism approach, their souls might be staying at home as before depending on some specific reasons. However living in different dimensions or TimeZone from human, they may not seeing, hearing or touching us even thought superimposed at the same point. Human is Yang 陽 while Soul is Yin 陰,staying together would harm each other.
Our normal recommendation would be conducting a formal Salvation Ritual 主薦超渡法會 that depending on your budget (Hockkian 5x, Hakka 2x, Cantonese 1x). The economic option is joining the next Ghost Month Salvation Ritual 附薦超渡法會。 The peace of mind is critical for our health & wealth. The primary criteria depending on their religion or practices (not your’s), you may invite any Appropriate Religion Leadership for such purpose. This post has been edited by JasonAubama: Nov 4 2017, 09:58 PM |
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Nov 5 2017, 04:11 AM
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Nov 5 2017, 07:54 AM
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QUOTE(conxtion @ Nov 5 2017, 04:11 AM) After serving the required "sentence", will these souls be able to go to heaven? Or be reincarnated? Yes, will resume into reincarnation system.Buddhism’s 目蓮救母 MuLian Saved his mum, is a classical example. Btw, this is not Buddha original version from Nepal but modified in Chinese cultural version. Both Taoism & Buddhism adopted in China. This post has been edited by JasonAubama: Nov 5 2017, 08:27 AM |
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QUOTE(JasonAubama @ Nov 4 2017, 11:57 AM) I have experienced illusion of Hell & Heaven during my ICU stay. The powerful spiritual being has showed it talent. At a blink of thought, ICU became Caribbean Sea Side with warm & windy leisure scenery as if in the heaven. The next moment, illusion changed to Volcano like hell with hot lava while my physical posture stays in ICU unmoved. With Carrot & Stick, my choice to bow? As a Taoist priest, you should not be believing in the existence of Hell. Buddhism says this is the test. Luckily I’m a Taoist Priest. Thanks & no thank. I remained myself. I doubt your credentials. |
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Nov 6 2017, 09:59 AM
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Issit mean Taoism only got heaven but no hell?
Taoism got 3 purity as one of their god but no ghosts/spirits? |
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Nov 6 2017, 12:00 PM
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Most of the Taoists reluctant to share their teachings as they fear of rejections, difficult in answering beyond their knowledge, selfish or even pride of reputation.
I have actually deepened my understanding of Tao as I must run through thinking process in-depth instead of take for granted among the common believers. This post has been edited by JasonAubama: Nov 6 2017, 12:01 PM |
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Nov 6 2017, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE(JasonAubama @ Nov 6 2017, 12:00 PM) Most of the Taoists reluctant to share their teachings as they fear of rejections, difficult in answering beyond their knowledge, selfish or even pride of reputation. You can be a Taoist priest with some basic knowledge/understanding of sintua and Buddhism. No one say Taoist priest must die die believe only tao. We are not taliban, die die must follow ancient believe. I have actually deepened my understanding of Tao as I must run through thinking process in-depth instead of take for granted among the common believers. Continue your sharing. Some of us will appreciate it. Taoist priest can be learner stage, beginner, intermediate or professional. Everyone is learning. Taoist priest doesnot mean u are perfect and know everything bout tao. |
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Nov 6 2017, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Nov 4 2017, 07:19 AM) Don't so confident say the word *ALL* or you will offend the person really have that kind ability.Con people exist because they are to give dumb people a tough lesson to be smarter not to get cheated. Those get con don't blame, blame themselves for not being smarter or take it as lesson not to make same mistake again. Nothing is right or wrong. This post has been edited by dragynraken: Nov 6 2017, 01:27 PM |
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Nov 6 2017, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE(dragynraken @ Nov 6 2017, 01:26 PM) Don't so confident say the word *ALL* or you will offend the person really have that kind ability. Please. Con people exist because they are to give dumb people a tough lesson to be smarter not to get cheated. Those get con don't blame, blame themselves for not being smarter or take it as lesson not to make same mistake again. Nothing is right or wrong. Am I supposed to be afraid of offending them? |
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Nov 6 2017, 02:52 PM
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Normally people seeking for WenMi 問米 are those felt certain degree of guilty for the rested soul other than missing him/her so much.
I respect those dedicated mediums as they consumed much of own Energy/Essence for the service. At times they might pick the wrong soul where we have to examine if it is the right soul. It satisfied the living human & perhaps the rested soul. Whatever reasons, we respect the constructive initiatives. We joke that you can trust for the genuine message but beware of the monetary request. Read those messages wisely. I’m neutral on this kind of folklore practices but be mindful that only try it when necessary as it harm the Rested Soul. It justed reminded me that Energy Drained for possessing Ghost/rested soul. However Taoist Gains Energy from the God/Higher Energy Beings. This post has been edited by JasonAubama: Nov 6 2017, 02:55 PM |
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Nov 6 2017, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Nov 6 2017, 01:37 PM) I respect your bravery but if anything happens. Don't expect your deity to protect you. You do know real taoist practitioner practice curse and black magic. Better mind your own business instead being disrespectful.This post has been edited by dragynraken: Nov 6 2017, 02:59 PM |
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