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CandleIntheWind
post Nov 6 2017, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(JasonAubama @ Nov 6 2017, 02:52 PM)
Normally people seeking for WenMi 問米 are those felt certain degree of guilty for the rested soul other than missing him/her so much.

I respect those dedicated mediums as they consumed much of own Energy/Essence for the service. At times they might pick the wrong soul where we have to examine if it is the right soul. It satisfied the living human & perhaps the rested soul. Whatever reasons, we respect the constructive initiatives.

We joke that you can trust for the genuine message but beware of the monetary request. Read those messages wisely.

I’m neutral on this kind of folklore practices but be mindful that only try it when necessary as it harm the Rested Soul.

It justed reminded me that Energy Drained for possessing Ghost/rested soul. However Taoist Gains Energy from the God/Higher Energy Beings.
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Thanks for the info. I oways curious on all these supernatural stuffs.

Anyone join this group b4? mind share experience?
http://www.malaysian-paranormal-research.org/


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Having religion doesnot mean we are superior than others. Religion only teach us to be more humble than others.

JasonAubama
post Nov 6 2017, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(dragynraken @ Nov 6 2017, 02:57 PM)
I respect your bravery but if anything happens. Don't expect your deity to protect you. You do know real taoist practitioner practice curse and black magic. Better mind your own business instead being disrespectful.
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Hahaha, we learnt that. Is upto individual Taoist to apply such power as it may be very costly.

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JasonAubama
post Nov 6 2017, 03:59 PM

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We all welcome Positive Emotion, Positive Thinking, Positive Health, Positive Wealth, Positive Energy, the more we Practice toward the Bright Side, we attract those at the Similar Frequency. Of course we have the liberty to choice the opposite.

Taoist Priest acquires great extend of facilities beyonds, depending on their Ethical preference, you may gauge from their behavior & outlook.
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post Nov 6 2017, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(dragynraken @ Nov 6 2017, 02:57 PM)
I respect your bravery but if anything happens. Don't expect your deity to protect you. You do know real taoist practitioner practice curse and black magic. Better mind your own business instead being disrespectful.
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Real Taoist practitioners don't dabble in crap like that.
JasonAubama
post Nov 6 2017, 05:26 PM

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Tao respect the natural.
Penang flood affected all people regardless of religions.
TSconxtion
post Nov 6 2017, 06:18 PM

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Tao is about yin yang, black white, good evil, etc.

It's safe to say that "real" Taoist practitioners can be good people or evil people.


QUOTE(nachtsider @ Nov 6 2017, 04:24 PM)
Real Taoist practitioners don't dabble in crap like that.
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CandleIntheWind
post Nov 6 2017, 07:56 PM

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No matter how knowledgeable are you. sometimes your ego will cause others to look down at you.

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post Nov 6 2017, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Nov 6 2017, 04:24 PM)
Real Taoist practitioners don't dabble in crap like that.
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Real sintua worshipper doesn't simply talk and cause trouble. Stop being ignorant and arrogant. Just apologize about your behavior. Human have capability to choose good and evil, so do all deities, gods and spirits.

If a taoist practitioner using curse or black magic on you, he/she is still a real taoist practitioner.
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post Nov 6 2017, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(dragynraken @ Nov 6 2017, 08:41 PM)
Real sintua worshipper doesn't simply talk and cause trouble. Stop being ignorant and arrogant. Just apologize about your behavior. Human have capability to choose good and evil, so do all deities, gods and spirits.

If a taoist practitioner using curse or black magic on you, he/she is still a real taoist practitioner.
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QUOTE(conxtion @ Nov 6 2017, 06:18 PM)
Tao is about yin yang, black white, good evil, etc.

It's safe to say that "real" Taoist practitioners can be good people or evil people.
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A real Taoist practitioner uses the Dao De Jing as his guide to life.

The Dao De Jing's supreme tenet is to harmonise with nature and the universe.

How the hell do curses and black magic fit that bill?

Proclaiming to be a Taoist practitioner while at the same time being a proponent of dark sorcery is utterly contradictory and wholly nonsensical.

Lao Zi would condemn you in the strongest possible terms.
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post Nov 6 2017, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Nov 6 2017, 08:49 PM)
A real Taoist practitioner uses the Dao De Jing as his guide to life.

The Dao De Jing's supreme tenet is to harmonise with nature and the universe.

How the hell do curses and black magic fit that bill?

Proclaiming to be a Taoist practitioner while at the same time being a proponent of dark sorcery is utterly contradictory and wholly nonsensical.

Lao Zi would condemn you in the strongest possible terms.
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You just like saying a rapist is not a rapist. Whatever you take care. Bye
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QUOTE(dragynraken @ Nov 6 2017, 09:15 PM)
You just like saying a rapist is not a rapist. Whatever you take care. Bye
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Nope.

What I'm doing is akin to saying that a rapist who proclaims to be a Christian is not truly a Christian.
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QUOTE(JasonAubama @ Nov 6 2017, 03:59 PM)
We all welcome Positive Emotion, Positive Thinking, Positive Health, Positive Wealth, Positive Energy, the more we Practice toward the Bright Side, we attract those at the Similar Frequency. Of course we have the liberty to choice the opposite.

Taoist Priest acquires great extend of facilities beyonds, depending on their Ethical preference, you may gauge from their behavior & outlook.
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I like your quote master. From the way you present your views, i truly believe you can be a real and humble master.

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We learn from each other be it black or white. By observing the flow of Tao, is our choice as how we manage for optimal benefits.

DaoDeJing is the top reference in Taoism but not limiting our quest to exploring further heights. Sky is our limits where we could translate into 2 ladders’ height or 13.8 billion light-years as the boundary of our universe. (We used to describe when a person at the top of ladder is half-sky high, mathematically sky is 2 ladders height 🤔).

Let the wind subside as we exploring further benefits in our life.

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曇花一現 Epiphyllum oxypetalum from my house. The fragrance is nice that make me feel much lighter.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epiphyllum_oxypetalum


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post Nov 7 2017, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(JasonAubama @ Nov 6 2017, 09:59 PM)
We learn from each other be it black or white. By observing the flow of Tao, is our choice as how we manage for optimal benefits.

DaoDeJing is the top reference in Taoism but not limiting our quest to exploring further heights. Sky is our limits where we could translate into 2 ladders’ height or 13.8 billion light-years as the boundary of our universe. (We used to describe when a person at the top of ladder is half-sky high, mathematically sky is 2 ladders height 🤔).

Let the wind subside as we exploring further benefits in our life.
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Appreciate your high level of wisdom. Religion should be something the more we study, the higher wisdom we get. But at the same time we should be more understanding, not all religion like Buddhism, Christian and Islam so fortunate to have holy books to guide them. That might be the reason some would appear to be more "no parent teach".

Let us continue our discussion.
I notice that taoism funeral usually more expensive that others. Do you know the reasons for it?

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post Nov 7 2017, 11:33 AM

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The price is predetermined by Cemetery Conglomerate & Coffin Shops primarily profit is objective. Their influence & coverage extensively to all hospitals, sales agents, insurance companies & many other channels.

The best commission earns is offering Buddhist way as a trend where many Monks & Nuns imported from China. Only those clients insisted Taoism way would then arrange on special arrangements.

HockKian 5x, Hakka 2x & Cantonese 1x roughly the price & demand ratio. Taoist Priest became a cheap labor earning the wages at random intervals competing with Chinese Illigal Labor.

I don’t know why I was chosen to be a Taoist Priest as I have been in Corporate for 25 years but believed that must have some reasons. My understanding with my teacher is that I wanted to Share Taoist Teaching for those interested by preparing Books like Buddhism but not distributing openly as a start. Permission granted but I would not push a step further until my teacher rested in peace as my respect.

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TSconxtion
post Nov 7 2017, 03:13 PM

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Is qigong derived from Taoism?
JasonAubama
post Nov 7 2017, 03:26 PM

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Yes, QiGong is originated from Tao.
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Master, you know where can we try these?

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Guan Luo Yin (观落阴) is one of the 4 types of Guan Lin Su (观灵术) - Way of Viewing Spirits.

The 4 types of Guan Lin Su (观灵术) - Way of Viewing Spirits:
1) Explore Yuan Shen Gong (探 元神宫) 
2) Spirit World Tour (游览灵界) / You Di-Yu  (游地狱)
3) Meeting The Spirits (相会亡魂)- This is Guan Luo Yin (观落阴)
4) Viewing The "Flowers and Trees" (观花树丛)


Guan Luo Yin (观落阴) is also known as Guan San Gu (观三姑). Guan Luo Yin (观落阴) is a Taoist Ritual for a trip to hell and watch the afterlife. Folks take part in Guan Luo Yin (观落阴) Ritual for the purpose of wanting to know how is the life going on for their dead love ones (parents, children , relatives) in the underworld.

Guan Luo Yin (观落阴) is NOT hypnotism.
Guan Luo Yin (观落阴) is not hypnotism as suggested by some medical psychologists. In hypnotism, the person usually cannot remembers what he sees or hears when he is hypnotised, whereas in this ritual, the person is fully conscious of his surrounding during the Guan Luo Yin (观落阴) Ritual.

Firstly, participants are self-conscious and have their own judgements without accepting any hints . The hall disciples will deliberately avoid giving hints of any kinds.

Secondly, participants can remember completely what they’ve been experienced through the adventure and describe every details from the journey.

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post Nov 7 2017, 03:51 PM

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CandleIntheWind Wow, I heard about it but no idea & comment. It is not the Mainstream & my personal opinion is that may drain your Energy.
There are many documentaries films & scientific exploring on these subjects.

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