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Jul 28 2017, 11:35 PM
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Thousand-aire already
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Jul 29 2017, 12:40 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 27 2017, 02:00 PM) Improving on late selling is not that difficult. I held some stocks for few years.. Some turned out great... but others was having good returns at first but then later the growth is not there anymore... so the price went sideways or retraced.. So I'm giving back the return or losing opportunity cost.. Selling too late usually does not happen in stocks with real solid future prospects. Selling too late (which turns the trade into losses) usually happen in stocks with not so good fundamentals, ie goreng stocks. Most of the time, in such cases, the chef has left the building, leaving holders with losses. In such cases, learning when to sell (exit a trade) is important. Search via Google. Plenty there. I always believe in buying right. Buying correctly makes the selling decisions much easier. 're expectancy. Tracking is important but it would be better if you could know your averages on different strategies. Do you track your trades? What's your avg profit and percentage of winning trades like? |
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Jul 29 2017, 05:17 AM
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QUOTE(Suicidal Guy @ Jul 29 2017, 12:40 AM) I held some stocks for few years.. Some turned out great... but others was having good returns at first but then later the growth is not there anymore... so the price went sideways or retraced.. So I'm giving back the return or losing opportunity cost.. You cannot hold stocks LONG just for the sake of holding.Do you track your trades? What's your avg profit and percentage of winning trades like? It doesn't work this way. Once the growth stops... you just gotta ask yourself this simple question ... without the growth (ie the company isn't making more and more money each year), what else could attract others to invest in the stock? If there isn't much catalyst, why would these stock go up? |
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Jul 29 2017, 06:10 AM
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QUOTE(johnnyzai89 @ Jul 27 2017, 10:35 AM) Ah boon, for all time high flying stocks.. You can use the following all time flying stock as an example too....how do you determine the next resistance level ah? using fibo ah? or there is no way of telling See how the high keeps getting higher? If use stuff like 'next resistance level'.... how then? QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 22 2017, 09:31 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « ![]() ![]() "Getting in the stock correctly solves most of the selling problems".... ![]() |
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Aug 3 2017, 10:18 PM
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This thread has gone to second page. haha
Boon is this an ascending triangle chart as well? haha or i force it to be? i have noticed that whenever this stock gets high volume and close higher, the next day it always go down a few days or the next week, the volume spike up again and close higher. any view on this chart? |
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Aug 3 2017, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Aug 3 2017, 10:18 PM) This thread has gone to second page. haha Long term bullish for me.Boon is this an ascending triangle chart as well? haha or i force it to be? i have noticed that whenever this stock gets high volume and close higher, the next day it always go down a few days or the next week, the volume spike up again and close higher. any view on this chart? |
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Aug 3 2017, 11:29 PM
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Aug 3 2017, 11:46 PM
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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Aug 3 2017, 10:18 PM) This thread has gone to second page. haha Boon is this an ascending triangle chart as well? haha or i force it to be? i have noticed that whenever this stock gets high volume and close higher, the next day it always go down a few days or the next week, the volume spike up again and close higher. any view on this chart? It's ok la. I'm fine with it. Sometimes there's no need to post just for the sake of pasting, yes? Nah, it looks macam yes but I think it's a no. You need to connect the lows much better. Interesting observation on the volume days.... but such stuff is tricky.... cos basically you are attempting to read what the hidden hand is trying to do.... sometimes we could catch it... but many times ... we could left looking like a fool... For this one, things are looking good... watch the 1.00 mark... see if the stock punches thru with strong momentum.... GL |
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Aug 4 2017, 08:54 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Aug 3 2017, 11:46 PM) It's ok la. I'm fine with it. Sometimes there's no need to post just for the sake of pasting, yes? Nah, it looks macam yes but I think it's a no. You need to connect the lows much better. Interesting observation on the volume days.... but such stuff is tricky.... cos basically you are attempting to read what the hidden hand is trying to do.... sometimes we could catch it... but many times ... we could left looking like a fool... For this one, things are looking good... watch the 1.00 mark... see if the stock punches thru with strong momentum.... GL nice explain on the volume part, noted. the volume was very high yesterday and it touched RM1 and goes down. I would prefer it to trade side way for awhile before breaking the RM1 mark again. When stock goes up too quick, i manyak takut. GL to me |
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Aug 4 2017, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Aug 4 2017, 08:54 AM) guess i tried too hard for it to be ascending triangle Overall, like I said things are looking good.nice explain on the volume part, noted. the volume was very high yesterday and it touched RM1 and goes down. I would prefer it to trade side way for awhile before breaking the RM1 mark again. When stock goes up too quick, i manyak takut. GL to me The sharp run in May would appear to be fully digested by now. Momentum has been picking up pace and you can clearly see the higher lows since then.... all in which is a good indicator that the stock should move up higher.... The thing about it and the reading of the volume pattern is that these chicken farm owners... they like they got their own kung fu gang... sometimes scary ... which is why I caution about trying too hard to decipher the pattern and the risk involved... somehow... all these while... I never traded a chicken fella before... |
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Aug 4 2017, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Aug 4 2017, 09:17 AM) Overall, like I said things are looking good. but boon, like u mentioned before higher highs are important as well. this higher lows i dont understand, is it healthy from the chart perspective if there are some higher lows? and closes back the lows few days after just like this CCK?The sharp run in May would appear to be fully digested by now. Momentum has been picking up pace and you can clearly see the higher lows since then.... all in which is a good indicator that the stock should move up higher.... The thing about it and the reading of the volume pattern is that these chicken farm owners... they like they got their own kung fu gang... sometimes scary ... which is why I caution about trying too hard to decipher the pattern and the risk involved... somehow... all these while... I never traded a chicken fella before... i do understand that a share will of course go up and down. think i will try to study a few charts tonight. kung fu gang means the bosses in the same industry right? the MD might give out tipsy to the kung fu gang members? tis is the first time i traded a chicken fella hopefully the earning for this quarter is good then i can sleep well at night. and it does really gives me confident when the company bought back its own shares at 0.85 to 0.87 levels. its integrated supply chain, where they own some share in Goldcoin (feed mill) company, supply and selling its end-products at its retail outlets. the business in indonesia, and also the export of shrimp and fish (if not mistaken) to overseas. |
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Aug 4 2017, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Aug 4 2017, 09:52 AM) but boon, like u mentioned before higher highs are important as well. this higher lows i dont understand, is it healthy from the chart perspective if there are some higher lows? and closes back the lows few days after just like this CCK? Higher lows when the stock is consolidating is a good indicator.i do understand that a share will of course go up and down. think i will try to study a few charts tonight. kung fu gang means the bosses in the same industry right? the MD might give out tipsy to the kung fu gang members? tis is the first time i traded a chicken fella hopefully the earning for this quarter is good then i can sleep well at night. and it does really gives me confident when the company bought back its own shares at 0.85 to 0.87 levels. its integrated supply chain, where they own some share in Goldcoin (feed mill) company, supply and selling its end-products at its retail outlets. the business in indonesia, and also the export of shrimp and fish (if not mistaken) to overseas. kung fu gang... lol.... yeah it's confusing. Chicken/poultry stocks is known to be goreng stocks..... |
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Aug 4 2017, 12:10 PM
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next quarter poultry stocks especially egg producer will suffer. my wife was boasting how cheap eggs were since last month
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Aug 4 2017, 04:29 PM
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Aug 4 2017, 06:39 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Aug 4 2017, 10:01 AM) Higher lows when the stock is consolidating is a good indicator. Noted noted. Then i will just follow to make some fried chicken. Hahakung fu gang... lol.... yeah it's confusing. Chicken/poultry stocks is known to be goreng stocks..... QUOTE(PabloTH @ Aug 4 2017, 12:10 PM) next quarter poultry stocks especially egg producer will suffer. my wife was boasting how cheap eggs were since last month I did ask one egg whosaler before. Lower prices of eggs actually benefit them as profit margin will be higher.QUOTE(duplicated @ Aug 4 2017, 04:29 PM) Ok bro. But today closed flat after hitting 1.05. Lol |
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Aug 4 2017, 07:43 PM
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CCK today breached rm1 and dropped back to close unchanged at .975
candlestick wise this shows a sign of weakness right? power tak kuat enough |
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Aug 5 2017, 11:15 PM
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Aug 6 2017, 03:35 PM
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but as long as it's still higher lows and higher highs i think still ok la..
alot of short term traders i guess |
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Aug 6 2017, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(johnnyzai89 @ Aug 6 2017, 03:35 PM) but as long as it's still higher lows and higher highs i think still ok la.. If you are gonna trade a stock with a situation like this...alot of short term traders i guess it's either you know or you don't... guessing.... is never gonna do your risk assessment of your trade any good. |
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Aug 7 2017, 11:27 PM
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