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TSBoon3	Jul 20 2017, 04:35 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #961
10k Club All Stars 15,942 posts Joined: Jun 2008	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 10 2017, 06:49 PM) Ah.... 'listening to a blogger'.... You should develop your own strength. Listening to others could mess you up (me included ) Anyway... it's past already. You took half profit already. What I would suggest is mark this one trade down into your 555 book for future reference. Keep track of your success and those not so successful. See where you can improve yourself. hehe.... for stock whose earnings are growing (or turning around) , it's better to know what stage of the growth you are in. Growth do not last forever and usually after a robust growth period, growth tends to slows...... this is my general believe. ps: anyway, your reasoning process is well thought out. well done and good luck to your new trade. twhong_91 See? 395 also got.
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twhong_91	Jul 21 2017, 12:10 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #962
01.01.2012 Senior Member 1,637 posts Joined: Mar 2010 From: Bolehland	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 20 2017, 04:35 PM) twhong_91 See? 395 also got. Haha... mistake learnt. Was anticipating a 40c breakout but at least it went as high as 395. Holding tight till the next qr to decide whether to hold or sell. Already 50% gains but i believe ppl who enter lower would earn much higher. On that of that many investment banks started to cover it, tp 0.43 and 0.45?
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TSBoon3	Jul 21 2017, 07:34 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #963
10k Club All Stars 15,942 posts Joined: Jun 2008	QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Jul 21 2017, 12:10 AM) Haha... mistake learnt. Was anticipating a 40c breakout but at least it went as high as 395. Holding tight till the next qr to decide whether to hold or sell. Already 50% gains but i believe ppl who enter lower would earn much higher. On that of that many investment banks started to cover it, tp 0.43 and 0.45? The important thing is that 'taking half profit' isn't really a solid strategy. IF the reason to enter the trade was SOLID enough, selling half is simply throwing away something good. The better option is just to sit tight. I know such strategy is rather difficult to implement cos of the many temptations to either... 1. switch to other stock 2, trying to catch every single up and downs of the stock. ie sell at a 'high' and trying to catch it back when it falls to a 'low'.... ie the IN and OUT trader.
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lihongmint	Jul 24 2017, 02:04 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #964
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Jun 2017	QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Jun 30 2017, 03:44 PM) PDT issit? depend which broking firm offer better for PDT thn join tax need declare transparent depend what kind offer for equities and futures Yeah, PDT How much of profit sharing percentage in the industry? Seems like you know a lot, you are one of the PDT?
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djhenry91	Jul 24 2017, 02:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #965
Slow and Steady Senior Member 6,779 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: SEGI Heaven	QUOTE(lihongmint @ Jul 24 2017, 02:04 PM) Yeah, PDT How much of profit sharing percentage in the industry? Seems like you know a lot, you are one of the PDT? nope..there is one guy ask me want join or not.few years ago.. depend how good are u nego with company
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twhong_91	Jul 24 2017, 10:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #966
01.01.2012 Senior Member 1,637 posts Joined: Mar 2010 From: Bolehland	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 21 2017, 07:34 AM) The important thing is that 'taking half profit' isn't really a solid strategy. IF the reason to enter the trade was SOLID enough, selling half is simply throwing away something good. The better option is just to sit tight. I know such strategy is rather difficult to implement cos of the many temptations to either... 1. switch to other stock 2, trying to catch every single up and downs of the stock. ie sell at a 'high' and trying to catch it back when it falls to a 'low'.... ie the IN and OUT trader. So what do you do to not to be tempted by these temptations that you mentioned? Haha
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TSBoon3	Jul 25 2017, 07:35 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #967
10k Club All Stars 15,942 posts Joined: Jun 2008	QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Jul 24 2017, 10:37 PM) So what do you do to not to be tempted by these temptations that you mentioned? Haha How do you resist real life temptations?
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twhong_91	Jul 25 2017, 01:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #968
01.01.2012 Senior Member 1,637 posts Joined: Mar 2010 From: Bolehland	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 25 2017, 07:35 AM) How do you resist real life temptations? Lol... wise words. Understand understand.
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Suicidal Guy	Jul 27 2017, 01:56 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #969
On my way Senior Member 567 posts Joined: Feb 2006	hai cikgu... i have a question to ask.. i notice this SMA line (20-day, 50-day, 150-day and 200-day) are at different price in a daily and weekly chart. Why is it different? My understanding is that it should be at the same price no matter what time frame chart you choose... Example below... Daily Chart Weekly Chart BTW this stock can buy or not? Tipsy pleaseeeee....
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hehe86	Jul 27 2017, 02:32 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #970
Gratitude Senior Member 1,497 posts Joined: Dec 2005	The EMA/MA indicator uses the candlestick to calculate. So for each timeframe, those candlesticks have different closing price, hence the difference of MA/EMA
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Suicidal Guy	Jul 27 2017, 09:19 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #971
On my way Senior Member 567 posts Joined: Feb 2006	QUOTE(hehe86 @ Jul 27 2017, 02:32 AM) The EMA/MA indicator uses the candlestick to calculate. So for each timeframe, those candlesticks have different closing price, hence the difference of MA/EMA Supposed one is using moving averages as support line indicator, then there would be two support line if choose between daily and weekly chart.. which one to use ahh? Terima kasih cikgu..
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hehe86	Jul 27 2017, 09:54 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #972
Gratitude Senior Member 1,497 posts Joined: Dec 2005	Eh i'm nobody cikgu, i still have long ways to learn lol To use what moving average as support line on which timeframe, guess u have to ask yourself you wanna trade short-term or long-term/swing trader. No best answer here, depending on your method Some use MAs in weekly to just check the trend, follow trend/counter trend, then dive into daily to find entries. Then one may use a shorter MA/EMA like 10/20 as support line etc. Best is to backtest/paper trade to know which suits u best
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TSBoon3	Jul 27 2017, 10:05 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #973
10k Club All Stars 15,942 posts Joined: Jun 2008	QUOTE(Suicidal Guy @ Jul 27 2017, 09:19 AM) Supposed one is using moving averages as support line indicator, then there would be two support line if choose between daily and weekly chart.. which one to use ahh? Terima kasih cikgu.. These EMA lines .... they are lousy indicators. OK... dun take my word for granted ... which means .... the best way to test it out. Know the time frame you are trading. ahem If you are into daily trading, the EMA 20 is not gonna cut it. Some would suggest switching to shorter EMA 10. In short the shorter the time frame your trading is based upon, the shorter EMA is recommended. Which one? Ah... the discovery period should help... a lot. Mark down the EMA 10 and the EMA 15. Run some fake trades on it. See the end result. Which suits you better? Now if you are a longer period (6 months at least) , then the weekly chart are more important than the daily ones. Mess around la... See which one you die less.....
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johnnyzai89	Jul 27 2017, 10:35 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #974
Regular Senior Member 1,444 posts Joined: Aug 2014	Ah boon, for all time high flying stocks.. how do you determine the next resistance level ah? using fibo ah? or there is no way of telling
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TSBoon3	Jul 27 2017, 11:11 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #975
10k Club All Stars 15,942 posts Joined: Jun 2008	QUOTE(johnnyzai89 @ Jul 27 2017, 10:35 AM) Ah boon, for all time high flying stocks.. how do you determine the next resistance level ah? using fibo ah? or there is no way of telling It depends and the strategy applied depends on individual user. If you are more fundamental based player, your focus is probably on the valuation. Is the current price way ahead of its future prospects? If so, sell lo. Sometimes the price is way ahead of its current valuation but then the future prospects is so enticing that perhaps it's better to sit tight. Charts. If you are a long term player, ie you believe greatly on the company's future prospect, then you should avoid all those short term indicators and stuff like supports and resistance. Failure to do so will see one shooting themselves in the foot. Big gains come from the waiting game. The major trend. Watch that. The weekly charts.
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lihongmint	Jul 27 2017, 11:29 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #976
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Jun 2017	day traders, what tools you guys use to scan which high flying stocks to trade on the day?
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johnnyzai89	Jul 27 2017, 11:52 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #977
Regular Senior Member 1,444 posts Joined: Aug 2014	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 27 2017, 12:11 PM) It depends and the strategy applied depends on individual user. If you are more fundamental based player, your focus is probably on the valuation. Is the current price way ahead of its future prospects? If so, sell lo. Sometimes the price is way ahead of its current valuation but then the future prospects is so enticing that perhaps it's better to sit tight. Charts. If you are a long term player, ie you believe greatly on the company's future prospect, then you should avoid all those short term indicators and stuff like supports and resistance. Failure to do so will see one shooting themselves in the foot. Big gains come from the waiting game. The major trend. Watch that. The weekly charts. hehehe thanks thanks!! this thread has been so quiet these days
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Suicidal Guy	Jul 27 2017, 12:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #978
On my way Senior Member 567 posts Joined: Feb 2006	QUOTE(hehe86 @ Jul 27 2017, 09:54 AM) Eh i'm nobody cikgu, i still have long ways to learn lol To use what moving average as support line on which timeframe, guess u have to ask yourself you wanna trade short-term or long-term/swing trader. No best answer here, depending on your method Some use MAs in weekly to just check the trend, follow trend/counter trend, then dive into daily to find entries. Then one may use a shorter MA/EMA like 10/20 as support line etc. Best is to backtest/paper trade to know which suits u best haha as long as you teach me something then you are my cikgu laa.. what you said is similar to what i have read.. that is to have an aerial view of the longer term trend to be in your favour by looking at the long term chart and have the long term MA line upward.. then only look at proper base set up to enter.. and some other rules such as price is trading above MA, short term MA line above long term MA line.. etc.. QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 27 2017, 10:05 AM) These EMA lines .... they are lousy indicators. OK... dun take my word for granted ... which means .... the best way to test it out. Know the time frame you are trading. ahem If you are into daily trading, the EMA 20 is not gonna cut it. Some would suggest switching to shorter EMA 10. In short the shorter the time frame your trading is based upon, the shorter EMA is recommended. Which one? Ah... the discovery period should help... a lot. Mark down the EMA 10 and the EMA 15. Run some fake trades on it. See the end result. Which suits you better? Now if you are a longer period (6 months at least) , then the weekly chart are more important than the daily ones. Mess around la... See which one you die less..... Previously I buy only based on fundamentals.. my fundamental analysis also not so good la.. just enough to avoid lemons.. the returns are satisfactory but definitely could be better if incorporate some chart skills to know when to buy and sell.. my previous buys are usually too early and sell is too late.. that's what i hope to improve on.. Btw, I start to track my average gains and losses to know what is my expectancy...
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TSBoon3	Jul 27 2017, 02:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #979
10k Club All Stars 15,942 posts Joined: Jun 2008	QUOTE(Suicidal Guy @ Jul 27 2017, 12:48 PM) haha as long as you teach me something then you are my cikgu laa.. what you said is similar to what i have read.. that is to have an aerial view of the longer term trend to be in your favour by looking at the long term chart and have the long term MA line upward.. then only look at proper base set up to enter.. and some other rules such as price is trading above MA, short term MA line above long term MA line.. etc.. Previously I buy only based on fundamentals.. my fundamental analysis also not so good la.. just enough to avoid lemons.. the returns are satisfactory but definitely could be better if incorporate some chart skills to know when to buy and sell.. my previous buys are usually too early and sell is too late.. that's what i hope to improve on.. Btw, I start to track my average gains and losses to know what is my expectancy... Improving on late selling is not that difficult. Selling too late usually does not happen in stocks with real solid future prospects. Selling too late (which turns the trade into losses) usually happen in stocks with not so good fundamentals, ie goreng stocks. Most of the time, in such cases, the chef has left the building, leaving holders with losses. In such cases, learning when to sell (exit a trade) is important. Search via Google. Plenty there. I always believe in buying right. Buying correctly makes the selling decisions much easier. 're expectancy. Tracking is important but it would be better if you could know your averages on different strategies.
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TSBoon3	Jul 28 2017, 08:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #980
10k Club All Stars 15,942 posts Joined: Jun 2008	Update.... Oh that 49 sen? That was just a mark on when I posted last on it.... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2017, 08:38 AM) Many years before them, there was this weekly article written by Dynaquest boss Neoh Soon Kean. His weekly column would appear on the Sunday Mail. He got such a huge following that whatever stock he column features, the stock would go up on Monday. Then you have the reporter following the footsteps in the Chinese columns... yup... Mr.Fong Write...stock goes up... Then of course you have several bloggers like Dali and then KYY. LOL! Life is good. Anyway......... is it hard picking a stock like Krono? From the history, we know this stock fared badly since listing. Soon after listing as posted here post #1879, Krono started having quarterly losses. 2 consecutive quarterly losses. As stated in the posting, turnaround was seen. Since then a turnaround was positively seen. 3 quarterly set of profits. One could have easily estimated that the current fiscal year profits should easily double the previous year profits. And if one read the earning notes, one would have realise that Krono's profits came mainly from Singapore, which is a wonderful hedge against the weekening ringgit. Of course the risk is obvious. It's still newly listed , so the reliability of the numbers and shareholding issue (the only main shareholder is the Indian owner). Price then was around 27 sen at the time of the posting. Yes, it had already appreciated a fair bit already considering the stock could have easily be bought around 15 sen. But sometimes, this is what I call insurance. Buying on the first positive quarterly result runs the risk of a flash in the pan scenario. Anyway.. there we were..... and what happened by end Feb was Krono confirming that its profits had more than doubled. Stock then shot up! see below... Ok that was all cerita lama.... Old tok is cheap tok! So before this breakout... if one was paying attention.... That look like a simple flag pattern waiting for the good ole breakout.... In the meantime... the company was featured in the edge... http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/indi...80%94-kronologi http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/kron...sence-india-sea This is what happens next... So who is this Fong fella again? ps: if you ask me... I rather be my own hunter.... anytime.
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