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celee
post Dec 3 2018, 09:23 PM

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asus b360m gaming plus s
INTEL CORE I5-8400 PROCESSOR
asus cerberus gtx 1070ti
hyperx fury 2666mhz 8gb drr4
FSP Hydro 600W 80+ Bronze
Seagate barracuda 1 tb 7200
SAMSUNG EVO 860 M.2 250 GB
tecware nexus

want to ask sifu if this build has any issue with compatibility? or any other comments on this?
whats the difference between asus b360m gaming plus S and b360 gaming plus?

This post has been edited by celee: Dec 3 2018, 09:24 PM
zodius
post Dec 3 2018, 10:37 PM

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Hi all sifu,


recently my desktop kinda crazy, always freeze when playing games or watching movie and reboot by itself for many times. sometimes have to take out all the parts and assembly it back in order to get it working again. As this desktop also about 7 years already, i am thinking of either upgrade it or build a new 1. below is my rig spec, can any sifu advice on which part should i upgrade or a new rig is more preferable?

CPU: i7-3770K
CPU Cooler: CM Hyper 212 Evo
Mobo: Asrock Z77 Extreme 4
PSU: Seasonic G-550
GPU: LeadTex GTX670
HDD: WD Blue 1TB
Ram: Team Elite 4GB 1333 x1, Kingston 4GB 1333 x1
vrephyr
post Dec 3 2018, 11:00 PM

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CPU: CORE I5 8400
MOBO: MSI B360 GAMING PLUS
RAM: CRUCIAL Ballistix Tactical Tracer RGB DDR4 2666MHz 8GB x2
GPU: GALAX GeForce® GTX 1070 Ti
SSD: ADATA XPG SX6000 256GB M.2
HDD: SEAGATE BARRACUDA 1TB
PSU: SUPER FLOWER 600W SILVER ECO 80+ SILVER FULL MODULAR
CASE: CORSAIR Casing ATX CARBIDE Series 275R WHITE
COOLER: ID-Cooling Auraflow 240 SNOW Editon

Hello! This is my final build after some research that I did. There a few things that I need help from sifu here.

1) Does my MOBO is good enough or you guys have any suggestion on the better B360 mobo? contemplating between asus tuf b360 and msi b360 gaming plus
2) I'm very particular about airflow plus this casing requires a good airflow as well. I'm thinking to put AIO on top of the case. and 3 x 120mm case fan at the front and 1x 120mm at the back of the case.
my question is, what fan case is good enough for that 3 x 120mm? my last choice would be White LED Aigo. but if there's a need for higher rpm fan case like Corsair or any other brands, can you guys suggest me?

3) Also, having a lot of fans, does b360 mobo provides enough pin headers for a total of 4 case fans? I'm sorry as I am quite new in rig building.

thank you

This post has been edited by vrephyr: Dec 4 2018, 02:52 AM
Kristal.S
post Dec 4 2018, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(celee @ Dec 3 2018, 09:23 PM)
asus b360m gaming plus s
INTEL CORE I5-8400 PROCESSOR
asus cerberus gtx 1070ti
hyperx fury 2666mhz 8gb drr4
FSP Hydro 600W 80+ Bronze
Seagate barracuda 1 tb 7200
SAMSUNG EVO 860 M.2 250 GB
tecware nexus

want to ask sifu if this build has any issue with compatibility? or any other comments on this?
whats the difference between asus b360m gaming plus S and b360 gaming plus?
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No issues with compatibility there. Everything looks great. Though if you can splurge a bit more for a 80+ Gold PSU that'd be even better.

B360M is MATX and B360 is ATX size. Make sure your case fits ATX mobos if you're going for B360 Gaming Plus.

This post has been edited by Kristal.S: Dec 4 2018, 09:16 AM
mbr
post Dec 4 2018, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Dec 3 2018, 08:35 AM)
Best power supply reviews comes from Jonnyguru, Anandtech, Techpowerup and Tom's hardware. They test the PSU throughly.

Dont get your hopes high from other PSU reviewers.
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Those are established ones, but dont forget that they are limited to testing what they can get and use. For example, Superflower silver Eco is not going to be reviewed by them due to voltage requirements. Thus we have to make do with local testing and experiences too.

QUOTE(zodius @ Dec 3 2018, 10:37 PM)
Hi all sifu,
recently my desktop kinda crazy, always freeze when playing games or watching movie and reboot by itself for many times. sometimes have to take out all the parts and assembly it back in order to get it working again. As this desktop also about 7 years already, i am thinking of either upgrade it or build a new 1. below is my rig spec, can any sifu advice on which part should i upgrade or a new rig is more preferable?

CPU: i7-3770K
CPU Cooler: CM Hyper 212 Evo
Mobo: Asrock Z77 Extreme 4
PSU: Seasonic G-550
GPU: LeadTex GTX670
HDD: WD Blue 1TB
Ram: Team Elite 4GB 1333 x1, Kingston 4GB 1333 x1
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If you are thinking of trouble shooting, start a new thread will make tracking responses easier
If you are thinking of changing stuff, then have to change to new stuff, so CPU, motherboard and RAM needs to go.

You should see an improvement over the 6+ years old rigs.
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post Dec 4 2018, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(vrephyr @ Dec 3 2018, 11:00 PM)
CPU: CORE I5 8400
MOBO: MSI B360 GAMING PLUS
RAM: CRUCIAL Ballistix Tactical Tracer RGB DDR4 2666MHz 8GB x2
GPU: GALAX GeForce® GTX 1070 Ti
SSD: ADATA XPG SX6000 256GB M.2
HDD: SEAGATE BARRACUDA 1TB
PSU: SUPER FLOWER 600W SILVER ECO 80+ SILVER FULL MODULAR
CASE: CORSAIR Casing ATX CARBIDE Series 275R WHITE
COOLER: ID-Cooling Auraflow 240 SNOW Editon

Hello! This is my final build after some research that I did. There a few things that I need help from sifu here.

1) Does my MOBO is good enough or you guys have any suggestion on the better B360 mobo? contemplating between asus tuf b360 and msi b360 gaming plus
2) I'm very particular about airflow plus this casing requires a good airflow as well. I'm thinking to put AIO on top of the case. and 3 x 120mm case fan at the front and 1x 120mm at the back of the case.
my question is, what fan case is good enough for that 3 x 120mm? my last choice would be White LED Aigo. but if there's a need for higher rpm fan case like Corsair or any other brands, can you guys suggest me?

3) Also, having a lot of fans, does b360 mobo provides enough pin headers for a total of 4 case fans? I'm sorry as I am quite new in rig building.

thank you
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1. Both of the mobos are more of less the same. Guess it comes down to your colour preference. Do take note that Asus Tuf B360 Gaming Plus has 2 M.2 slots if that's something that concerns you.

2. Can refer to this as a guide: https://www.timesdigit.com/best-case-fans.html. I'd settle for Aigo first and monitor the temps. If you feel that your system is too hot, then only go for those high performance fans.

3. Based on the MSI B360 Gaming Plus specs, there's 5 x 4-pin system fan connectors so you should be in good hands. You can always get a splitter too if you run out of pin headers on your mobo.

Also, Adata XPG SX8200 is a newer model with higher writes/reads.

This post has been edited by Kristal.S: Dec 4 2018, 10:29 AM
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post Dec 4 2018, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(Kristal.S @ Dec 4 2018, 09:57 AM)
1. Both of the mobos are more or less the same. Guess it comes down to your color preference. Do take note that Asus Tuf B360 Gaming Plus has 2 M.2 slots if that's something that concerns you.

2. Can refer to this as a guide: https://www.timesdigit.com/best-case-fans.html. I'd settle for Aigo first and monitor the temps. If you feel that your system is too hot, then only go for those high-performance fans.

3. Based on the MSI B360 Gaming Plus specs, there's 5 x 4-pin system fan connectors so you should be in good hands. You can always get a splitter too if you run out of pin headers on your mobo.

Also, Adata XPG SX8200 is a newer model with higher writes/reads.
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It it was you, which one would you prefer? MSI or Asus TUF? For the theme, I'm going with all white. Including the GC that I've decided to go with Galax 1070ti Sniper OC. Still, don't know if
a) White + black and red mobo vs
b) white + black and yellow mobo hmm.gif

Thank you for the link. I think I shall go with your suggestion for those fans.

I'm going with XPG SX6000 Pro. A newer version than SX6000. The budget will exceed if go with SX8200 tongue.gif
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post Dec 4 2018, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(vrephyr @ Dec 4 2018, 10:56 AM)
It it was you, which one would you prefer? MSI or Asus TUF? For the theme, I'm going with all white. Including the GC that I've decided to go with Galax 1070ti Sniper OC. Still, don't know if
a) White + black and red mobo vs
b) white + black and yellow mobo  hmm.gif

Thank you for the link. I think I shall go with your suggestion for those fans.

I'm going with XPG SX6000 Pro. A newer version than SX6000. The budget will exceed if go with SX8200  tongue.gif
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None. I'd go with white mobo as well. wink.gif MSI has really nice white B360 mobo: https://shopee.com.my/MSI-B360-GAMING-ARCTI...9687.1563372850


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post Dec 4 2018, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Nov 30 2018, 11:43 PM)
Yeah, I dont know how much is your budget but for M.2, Intel 760P 256GB at RM299 from Viewnet. For SATA, Crucial MX500 250GB at RM229, 500GB at RM349. If you want even more performance, Samsung 970 Evo 250GB at RM479. All from the same shop.

Yes, you can keep your games on SSD. Dont write too much on SSDs, they have maximum Terabytes Written for the warranty. Save movies on the hard disk.
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Already bought new ssd seagate barracuda
My windows works perfectly fine
Thank you so much
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post Dec 4 2018, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(Kristal.S @ Dec 4 2018, 11:03 AM)
None. I'd go with white mobo as well. wink.gif MSI has really nice white B360 mobo: https://shopee.com.my/MSI-B360-GAMING-ARCTI...9687.1563372850
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HAHAHA damn! laugh.gif this arctic mobo was on my list as well but due to budget constraint, I dont know where else i can cut and move the budget confused.gif
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post Dec 4 2018, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(vrephyr @ Dec 4 2018, 11:18 AM)
HAHAHA damn! laugh.gif  this arctic mobo was on my list as well but due to budget constraint, I dont know where else i can cut and move the budget  confused.gif
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Hmmm based on the prices online, the arctic mobo is only like RM50 max extra though. Where are you getting your selected parts price from?
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post Dec 4 2018, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(Kristal.S @ Dec 4 2018, 09:16 AM)
No issues with compatibility there. Everything looks great. Though if you can splurge a bit more for a 80+ Gold PSU that'd be even better.

B360M is MATX and B360 is ATX size. Make sure your case fits ATX mobos if you're going for B360 Gaming Plus.
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can my build run on 1440p 144hz monitor with g sync? for AAA games at medium or high settings
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QUOTE(mbr @ Dec 4 2018, 09:28 AM)
Those are established ones, but dont forget that they are limited to testing what they can get and use. For example, Superflower silver Eco is not going to be reviewed by them due to voltage requirements. Thus we have to make do with local testing and experiences too.
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Yes but some are scared getting hammered by them too. Especially crap PSU models or makers.

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post Dec 4 2018, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(celee @ Dec 4 2018, 12:46 PM)
can my build run on 1440p 144hz monitor with g sync? for AAA games at medium or high settings
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Yes, you’ll be able to run comfortablely above 60fps.

https://youtu.be/_GlyR1NI188
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post Dec 4 2018, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(Kristal.S @ Dec 4 2018, 11:29 AM)
Hmmm based on the prices online, the arctic mobo is only like RM50 max extra though. Where are you getting your selected parts price from?
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All parts are from lelong except ssd from shopee. Yeah the difference is RM58. I don't if I shouls push it or not bcs right now its already 5.2k incld mobo arctic. Hmm
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QUOTE(vrephyr @ Dec 4 2018, 02:29 PM)
All parts are from lelong except ssd from shopee. Yeah the difference is RM58. I don't if I shouls push it or not bcs right now its already 5.2k incld mobo arctic. Hmm
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Hmmm. That really depends on your wallet. I assume your initial max budget was RM5k? But RM58 extra just to complete white theme doesn't sound too bad to me hahah. I mean, if you were to get MSI/Asus B360 and 3 months down the road you can't tahan the mixed colours, you'll end up spending more by selling it and getting the MSI B360 Arctic.

Another option to save budget is to hunt for 2nd hand Galax 1070Ti. I've seen fairly new 2nd hand Galax 1070Ti Ex-Sniper going for around RM1,500. Can save RM400 there.

This post has been edited by Kristal.S: Dec 4 2018, 02:49 PM
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post Dec 4 2018, 03:16 PM

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Most computer cases are big to accomodate graphic cards am i right? Cause if there is no reason for a big case i would go for smaller case.
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post Dec 4 2018, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(GnomeMage @ Dec 4 2018, 03:16 PM)
Most computer cases are big to accomodate graphic cards am i right? Cause if there is no reason for a big case i would go for smaller case.
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Not quite right. Some cases aren't long enough to accommodate a long GPU. Better to check the specs of the case before purchasing.
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QUOTE(Kristal.S @ Dec 4 2018, 02:44 PM)
Hmmm. That really depends on your wallet. I assume your initial max budget was RM5k? But RM58 extra just to complete white theme doesn't sound too bad to me hahah. I mean, if you were to get MSI/Asus B360 and 3 months down the road you can't tahan the mixed colours, you'll end up spending more by selling it and getting the MSI B360 Arctic.

Another option to save budget is to hunt for 2nd hand Galax 1070Ti. I've seen fairly new 2nd hand Galax 1070Ti Ex-Sniper going for around RM1,500. Can save RM400 there.
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Truth to be told my budget was actually 4.5k but since white theme is not achievable with that kind of budget. I had to improvised. Probably I'll just go with Arctic. Thank you for the 'tambah sikit lagi' biggrin.gif

Was planning to go for 2nd hand. But it can be hard especially for the waiting game.
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post Dec 4 2018, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(vrephyr @ Dec 4 2018, 03:24 PM)
Truth to be told my budget was actually 4.5k but since white theme is not achievable with that kind of budget. I had to improvised. Probably I'll just go with Arctic. Thank you for the 'tambah sikit lagi' biggrin.gif

Was planning to go for 2nd hand. But it can be hard especially for the waiting game.
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No worries. Pretty sure you won't regret cause I'm personally on white theme as well. wink.gif

That is true. Well hopefully one pops up just in time before you build your rig.

This post has been edited by Kristal.S: Dec 4 2018, 03:37 PM

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