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 [OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V13!

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TristanX
post Dec 14 2023, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Dec 14 2023, 06:28 PM)
AMD RYZEN 5 7500F
GIGABYTE B650M GAMING X AX
APACER PANTHER RGB 32GB DDR5 5200MHZ (16GB X2)
APACER AS2280Q4U 1TB
(USED) GAINWARD RTX 3080 TI PHOENIX 12GB GDDR6X
COUGAR AURIC RGB 750W 80 PLUS GOLD FULL MODULAR
AIGO DARKFLASH DK353 MINI WITH 4X ARGB FANS
THERMALRIGHT PEERLESS ASSASSIN 120 SE ARGB CPU AIR COOLER

worth 5200?
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Not bad. 3080 Ti about less than RM 1800. Casing might be too weak though.
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post Dec 14 2023, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Dec 14 2023, 07:53 PM)
so i just need to change the case and the rest is okay?
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Yeah, Montech Air 903 Max extreme value for money. Also, go for at least DDR5-5600. AMD CPUs loves RAM speed.
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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Dec 14 2023, 08:20 PM)
can i just stick to 5200 and OC it to 5600?
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Thats up to you. If you want to be adventurous.
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post Dec 16 2023, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(calvincty @ Dec 16 2023, 02:00 PM)
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Looking for a custom-built PC for light gaming that works as a second machine. Budget 2.5K+. Using Idealtech to check the pricing of the build. Not necessary to be the exact items for some as I have no idea which is better

Requirements:
- Ryzen 5600G -> Light gaming - CS:GO, L4D2
- 32GB memory
- 1TB NVME
- WiFi 6

The rest are really looking for an expert's suggestion!
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RAM round 330ish today I think. Use the RAM balance and change SSD to Kingston KC3000 2TB for around RM550. Don't pay for that extremely overpriced Samseng SSD.

Adata XPG Core Reacter 650W can be found for RM428. Better than that overpriced Antec.
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post Dec 16 2023, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(calvincty @ Dec 16 2023, 02:53 PM)
Thank you! Refresh the spec with updated pricing from C-zone. Looks okay?

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No complaints. Go for it.
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post Dec 17 2023, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(toomanyrulez @ Dec 16 2023, 11:11 PM)
Hello guys. I'm building a new pc. Just the tower, already have monitor kb and mouse.

My main use are Illustrator and Photoshop. My budget is around 1k to 1.5k. Is it enough?

For illustrator I only do simple design, for photoshop also do light tasks.

I don't know how much RAM I need or whether I need graphics card or not..
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Extremely low budget. Ignore Pentium G7400. This one is extremely overpriced.

Try

Core i3-12100 - 525 (Thundermatch - Lazada)
MSI B660M-E - 449
Kingston 8GB DDR4-3200 - 99 (add another 8GB later when got more budget)
Kingston KC3000 512GB - 229
Gigabyte P450B - 139
Cap ayam casing - 100 or less

RM1541 total

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post Dec 17 2023, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Dec 17 2023, 10:04 AM)
Litepower is no better than a bomb sweat.gif

Might be better to look for a used AM4 CPU + board combo instead icon_idea.gif
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I could find Gigabyte P450B too. There is FSP Hyper 80+ 550W at RM159 as well.

Light usage. i3 definitely stomps Ryzen 5000. Not to mention, overpowered Intel Quick Sync if he decides to do video encoding.
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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Dec 17 2023, 10:09 AM)
? TS workload doesn't need QuickSync, but high S/T performance is definitely recommended sweat.gif
Might be better to move down to a H610 board instead?  hmm.gif
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I said "if he decides".

Price difference isn't big for H610. A lot of restrictions on this chipset.
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post Dec 17 2023, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(Granit3Grey @ Dec 17 2023, 10:25 AM)
Thank you. I already got some knowledge as a result of reading your First Self Built Rig[12700F,16G D4,B660,3060Ti]. Like it smile.gif
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Avoid 8GB cards. Its not enough for some of the recent games. So, either RTX 3060 12GB or RTX 4070 12GB.
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QUOTE(toomanyrulez @ Dec 17 2023, 06:53 PM)
Thanks guys for the suggestion. I course I can extend my budget a bit like 2k or something.
I already went to Shopee and watched couple of youtube but still have no idea which is consider "value" or "overpriced" in our country like our Tristan said. That's why I came here.
I'm just curious if nowadays I can make one with 1 to 1.5k budget. Maybe I'll go with Intel, with more ram, 16 or 32gb, and also a dedicated hdd for scratch disk. Thanks for helping. 🙂
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2k can get you these.

Core i3-12100 - 525 (Thundermatch - Lazada)
MSI B660M-E - 449
Kingston 8GB DDR4-3200 X2 - 198
Kingston KC3000 1TB - 329
Seagate 1TB - 183
MSI A550BN - 209
Montech Air 100 case - 159

RM2052 total

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post Dec 19 2023, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(Triton @ Dec 19 2023, 12:24 AM)
Hi need some advice

[B][Budget]
RM5k max

[Purpose]
gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
none

[Monitor resolution]
2k

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
triple a

[Personal preferences]
prefer amd but can consider intel if better value for money. If can propose amd vs intel system better.
as for graphic card -nvidia

[Location] KL
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Try

Ryzen 5 5600 - 565
Asrock B550M Pro4 - 449
Kingston HyperX Fury Beast 16GB DDR4-3200 kit - 189
MSI RTX 4070 12GB Ventus 2X - 2750
Kingston KC3000 1TB - 329
Adata Core Reactor 750W - 469
Montech Air 903 Max case - 329

RM5080 total (Shopee prices)

You might wanna wait for RTX 4070 Super next month before buying it.

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QUOTE(NYCheesecake @ Dec 19 2023, 04:04 PM)
May I know if the SUPER variant significantly better in terms of price to performance? Or just applies to 4070?
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Sorry, can't speculate rumors.

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-...ation-leaks-out

It's possible they sell at same price or less.
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post Dec 20 2023, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(Triton @ Dec 19 2023, 11:03 PM)
Thanks. This is quite ok with my budget.
One question, if i wanted to use am5, like ryzen 7000 series, how much i need to add in my budget? can squeze within 200 or 300 extra?
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AM5 is a lot more expensive. CPU, decent B650 board and DDR5 increases price significantly.
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QUOTE(EpicStory1 @ Dec 21 2023, 12:42 AM)
Thanks for suggestions. The casing got cheaper alternatives? Additional RM300 for casing seems a bit high
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Cooling very important for high end rig. Wouldn't go smaller case.

Try

Montech Air 903 Max
Lian Li Lancool 216
Phanteks Eclipse P500A

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post Dec 22 2023, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(EpicStory1 @ Dec 22 2023, 02:16 AM)
Thanks for input so far.

If I may - would like to also seek for an alternative build suggestion for AMD GPU. And the CPU can be either Intel or AMD. I'm contemplating because I read RTX 40 series is just not really worth the money now and would be better to spend money on getting an AMD GPU card like RX7800XT or RX7900 if I were to go for 4070Ti. Or wait for RTX 50 series but realistically waiting forever is not viable either as there's always something better.

Budget can remain at 8.5K and purpose is to game mainly (ignoring design work).
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I would advise buying SSD now. Price is going up for RAM and SSD. Look for sellers with old price.

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Dec 22 2023, 11:56 PM)
Tenkiu PMX! No wait it should be tenkiu rakyats for choosing PMX!  doh.gif

Oso DDR5 performance gap can only be seen at 1080P. At 4K its basically the same.
https://www.techspot.com/review/2777-ddr5-vs-ddr4-gaming/
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Its not totally our issue. Its DRAM and SSD price going up. Plus crappy ringgit.
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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Dec 24 2023, 01:33 PM)
Budget max 8k wat can i build? The other day my acer nitro 5 added another 16gb ram but fps still below 30 when playing the isle. Lol i ask another guy his fps is 100 averagely and he us using gtx 4060
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How about these?

Core i5-14600K - 1379
EK AIO 360 Basic + LGA 1700 kit - 378 + 19
MSI Z790-P DDR4 - 1039
Kingston HyperX Fury Beast 32GB DDR4-3200 kit - 344 (not sure if price went up or not)
Sapphire RX 7800 XT Pulse - 2699
Kingston KC3000 2TB - 599
Corsair RM850e - 669
Lian Li Lancool III case - 539

RM7665 total (Viewnet / Shopee prices)

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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Dec 24 2023, 05:24 PM)
Bro why the gpu got sapphire rx 7800, gigabytbe radeon rx 7800 sapphire pulse rx 7800 what are the differences?
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Difference is the brand. Still both low tier card.
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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Dec 24 2023, 09:31 PM)
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gpus,4380.html

After RTX 4090, 4080, RX7900 XTX, RX 7900XT, RTX 4070 is RX7800 XT still considered low tier?
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It's not the GPU. Its the cooler quality, BIOS and the settings they give. Cheap models for the same GPU have base settings same or worse than AMD or Nvidia. Some doesn't even come with fan stop.
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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Dec 24 2023, 10:01 PM)
but RX 7800 is AMD Graphic card isnt it? why does it have other brand names such as giga or sapphire?
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Because AMD and Nvidia sells GPU chips for other brands to sell. RX 7800 XT is one of the GPU chip.

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