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TristanX
post Dec 25 2023, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Dec 25 2023, 01:48 AM)
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Hi sifu, i just bought ssd and ram

Ssd kingston kc3000 2tb
Ram kingston 3600mhz 16gb x 2
Is it okay? Good deal? Compatible with pc right?
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That is not KC3000. Please read. Cancel immediately before the seller sends.

NV2 is trash level SSD.
QUOTE(theartnet @ Dec 25 2023, 01:31 AM)
Hello, sorry for the long story, stuck on what to best get

I am using a pc from many years ago (2016ish i think), specs below. Currently struggling to play Horizon Zero Dawn smoothly, i guess due to the GPU memory not enough..also bought God of War from the recent steam sales. Planning to also buy a mix of either Stray / Baldurs Gate 3 / Death Stranding / Cyberpunk also. Want to keep playing at 1920x1080 resolution

CPU: Intel i5-6500
Motherboard: Asustek H170m-plus
RAM: 1x Adata 8GB DDR4 2400Mhz
GPU: Leadtek GTX 1050
Storage: 1x Samsung SSD 750 EVO 120GB, 1x Toshiba 1TB HDD
PSU: AcBel PCB041 (not sure exact, it puts rated 500W max 550W)
Case: Corsair carbide spec alpha
Monitor: Samsung S24D330 24in 60Hz

[Budget] 2k
Some of my own thoughts..over-reading online past few days lol
- Adding 1 more similar RAM for dual channel + buying new GPU that can go with current PSU, then change others in the future then re-use the GPU
- Change motherboard+cpu+ram first, then later GPU+PSU
Or, will it be much better to save up more for a whole new setup? (my max 6k+)

[Purpose] Playing games at 1080p 60fps at mostly high setting (don't have to be all ultra setting)

[Location] mainland penang..i got this current setup from a pc shop nearby me and its been working well all this while....TQ!

Saja add screenshot details using msi afterburner for reference

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Graphic card too weak. Upgrade it first. Budget also too low. Upgrade your PC in stages.

Part 1:
Asrock Arc A750 8GB (RTX 3060 level performance but driver not as good as AMD or Nvidia) or Palit RTX 3060 12GB - 880 / 1275
Adata XPG Core Reactor 750W - 469
Kingston HyperX Fury Beast 32GB DDR4-3200 kit - 344

Part 2:
Core i5-12400 - 769
MSI B760M-A Pro Wifi - 644
(optional) Kingston KC3000 1TB - 349

Also, SSD and RAM price is going up. If you dont want to touch CPU, RAM and mobo, add a 8GB DDR4-2400 of same brand. Hopefully it can dual channel.

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post Dec 25 2023, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Dec 25 2023, 09:47 AM)
https://s.lazada.com.my/s.7h9NW

Is this kc3000 i have bought the 1TB variant at 319.90myr

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Is it worth to get i7 now? Or i5 is enough for me? I9 too expensive
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Yes, thats the one.

Intel price controls the CPU. Price doesn't drop much. What is your PC for?
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post Dec 25 2023, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(theartnet @ Dec 25 2023, 11:16 AM)
Thanks for the suggestion and price hike advise, now got direction to focus at..will prob look into the rtx 3060 12gb+psu+ram+ssd
The 32GB ram kit means it's two 16GB sticks right?

Excited about this lol..want to browse kao kao later
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Yes, you might have to update BIOS for the RAM. It improves compatibility.
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post Dec 25 2023, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Dec 25 2023, 11:22 AM)
Bro im buying for my dekstop pc. Im building one atm
My pc mainly for stock trading, gaming and doing live tiktok china version which is very cpu and gpu demanding
I7 14th gen is good to go? Or i5 is suffice?
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Yeah, go for i7. It will get the job done.
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post Dec 25 2023, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Dec 25 2023, 01:33 PM)
Done buying i7 14700k is this correct?

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i5-14600KF RM1,399.00
COLORFUL CVN Z790 GAMING FROZEN V20 DDR4 (WIFI RM1,099.00
32GB 3600mhz kingston fury white rgb RM499.00
1TB KC3000 RM400.00
SApphire RX7800XT Pure (white) RM2999
1st player steampunk 850 gold RM399.00
thermalright frozen vision 360 white RM699.00
CM h500P White RM399
RM7893

i giv u full white build.. hehe

i5-14600KF RM1,399.00
MSI z790 P wifi D4 RM1099
32GB 3600mhz kingston fury white rgb RM499.00
1TB KC3000 RM400.00
SApphire RX7800XT Pure (white) RM2999
1st player steampunk 850 gold RM399.00
thermalright frozen vision 360 white RM699.00
CM h500P White RM399
RM7893

i7-14700K RM1999
i5-14600KF RM1,399.00
MSI z790 P wifi D4 RM1099
32GB 3600mhz kingston fury white rgb RM499.00
1TB KC3000 RM400.00
SApphire RX7800XT Pure (white) RM2999
1st player steampunk 850 gold RM399.00
thermalright frozen vision 360 white RM699.00
CM h500P White RM399
RM8493
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Yeah, thats the one.
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post Dec 25 2023, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Dec 25 2023, 01:42 PM)
The msi z790 is a motherboard?

https://shopee.com.my/product/59277182/2321...8049?d_id=91741

This one? Is it a good motherboard?
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Entry level Z790 board. It'll get the job done. Make sure you get a good PC case.

QUOTE(theartnet @ Dec 25 2023, 01:26 PM)
Thanks for the recommendation, ya those 2 gpu will be overbudget for me already
The other recommendation of rtx 3060 12gb seems reasonable..happy to maintain at 60fps at the moment (the HZD screenshot was hitting unstable 30fps at 720p resolution lol so a good 60fps 1080p mostly high setting will be cantik already for me)
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Also, watch out for RTX 3060 8GB variant. Its rubbish for the price.
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post Dec 25 2023, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Dec 25 2023, 01:48 PM)
The cmh500p casing okay ah?
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Yup. Big case too. No USB-C front panel though.

QUOTE(adamtayy @ Dec 25 2023, 02:36 PM)
Rx 6700 xt, 12gb smoke rtx 3060 12gb

& its 256bit
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Low budget or budget fits 7800 XT.

Also, I recommend new parts only. Buy at your own risk for second hand.

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QUOTE(adamtayy @ Dec 25 2023, 02:57 PM)
My sapphire hd7950, vapor-x 384-bit

refurbished, lasted 7 good years
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Congratulations on your luck.

Have to be careful of mining cards for second hand. Some doesn't even last long.
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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Dec 25 2023, 03:19 PM)
Sifu for rtx4080 gpu the colourful igame brand okay?

But why this brand got so many versions of rtx 4080?

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Cooler and settings level....

Ask yourself, why the price difference?
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post Dec 25 2023, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Dec 25 2023, 05:03 PM)
Nope. RTX 4080 is not worth it right now. RTX 4080 Super is coming next month.
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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Dec 25 2023, 05:39 PM)
lol this rtx 4080 super is going to rip off all the potential buyers. meaning to say there should be discount on rtx 4080 series since super is coming out?
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Maybe the older 4080 price will drop. No one knows...
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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Dec 25 2023, 05:59 PM)
Asus ROG Strix Z690-A D4

bro this motherboard any advantages over the msi pro z790-p?
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Not going to be your encyclopedia. Go to their website and read the spec.

Picture? Like heatsink size.
VRM?
M.2 Slots?
Wifi and Bluetooth version?
USB 2.0?
USB 3.x?
PCIE M.2 slots?
PCIE 4.0?
PCIE 5.0?
RGB connectors?
Added features?
Onboard screen?
Debugging LED?
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QUOTE(EpicStory1 @ Dec 26 2023, 01:07 AM)
I think what TristanX means is only after knowing key info such as the SUPER's performance and price adjustment to both 4080 and 4080 SUPER, we will know whether to get 4080 or 4080 SUPER

Maybe the 'not worth' is referring to as in new card coming out very soon, can wait a bit more and see how things are like before buying. Then compare, decide

Hope I got this right...
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4080 Super might replace 4080 at same price or less.

Its just next month. Just wait and see.
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Listing of Z690/790 VRM:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gQI...f2jY/edit#gid=0

Bare in mind more A is more expensive.

QUOTE(razkal @ Dec 26 2023, 09:33 PM)
Hello sifu2, please recommend best pc build for Rm4k budget.
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What are you using it for? Gaming?

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QUOTE(Stormflyer @ Dec 28 2023, 12:23 PM)
Hi sifus, want to get some rig recommendation for my gf.

[B][Budget] 2.5k - 3k

[Purpose] Your usual day-to-day internet surfing, light gaming (no AAA games), some data works and maybe some light video editing.

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor, keyboard, mouse, headphones..

[Monitor resolution] 1920 x 1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Terraria, Stardew Valley, Sims, CSGO, some MMO, Canvas, Excel, Tableau.

[Personal preferences] GF wanted the rig to be either in pink or white. Preferably NVME to store windows and important programs and a separate HDD for games (doesn't care if games takes longer time to load). Either Intel/AMD fine. Stocks cooling should suffice (?).

[Location] KL

I know the budget is on the lower side given how prices of parts have already increased vs few years back, but seeing if it's still possible to get something up. Few questions:

1) With the usage/games/softwares that will be used here, can the rig handle them without dedicated GPU (say running 60-100 fps on medium-high settings, no ultra etc)?

2) Would I be better off hunting the parts and build it myself or getting those pre-build PC from those online sites?

Thank youu
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Aesthetics got tax too. Try

Core i5-12400F - 549
Colorful B760M Gaming Frozen V20 Wifi - 722
Colorful Guardian 8GB DDR4-3200 X2 - 218
Asrock RX 6600 Challenger White - 1045
Kingston KC3000 512GB - 249
MSI A650BN - 209
Montech Air 100 Lite White - 172

RM3164 total (Shopee prices)

Optional:
Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 White - 169

A little overbudget.

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QUOTE(calvincty @ Dec 29 2023, 12:18 AM)
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Just purchased this spec last week and was thinking of having APU for the first few months and upgrading with GPU later. While I'm looking around for a used card and comes to RX6600 & RX660XT, I have been told that the CPU will be the bottleneck of the GPU due to the PCIE3 connectivity compared to the PCIE4 connectivity on 5600/x.

I wasn't aware of this, while I thought 5600G was the exact version of 5600 but with an additional iGPU.

Is that true? If so, then I might be sticking with it for longer period and only do upgrade once together with the CPU and GPU.  sad.gif
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Yeah, go for at least PCIe X8 cards to avoid bottleneck.

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QUOTE(calvincty @ Dec 29 2023, 12:50 AM)
In this case, RX6600 is a PCIe X8 card, right? is it fine to pair with 5600G?
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Yes. Should not have issue. Its a low end card.
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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Dec 29 2023, 01:27 PM)
Just share something to support your statement, don't run away biggrin.gif
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WD here usually got pricing issue. Stupid Nonsense SSD.

1.1 sale also coming. Could be the last chance of buying good SSDs.

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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Dec 29 2023, 07:40 PM)
Comparing the Blue with those QLC or part-swapping models, it is surprisingly acceptable to pay a little extra for transparency. The performance is top among DRAM-less segment as well. laugh.gif
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Sadly, Kingston KC3000 has been cannibalizing their sales for a long time. Either same or cheaper price. Got big price hike recently.

1.1 might be the last chance before you won't see cheap prices for a while. DRAM and SSD price going up.
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QUOTE(adamtayy @ Dec 30 2023, 08:58 AM)
what if, current old batch of KC3000 / 512gb / 1tb sold out..
take what? KC2000? KC2500? A2000?

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P/s, above pricing is just for reference
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See here.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B27...2gT4/edit#gid=0

Hunt for good prices.

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