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AthrunIJ
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Mar 5 2024, 05:50 PM)
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Well reep

Hopefully ada stock when I can buy haha
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Mar 5 2024, 05:55 PM)
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post Mar 7 2024, 10:04 PM

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Hi all, i'm looking for a mATX motherboard for around RM600++ (RM700 MAX) to accommodate these components:

1) Intel i5-14500 CPU (NEW)
2) NVIDIA 4070 Super (NEW)
3) 32GB of DDR4 RAM (currently on 16GB, planning on adding another 16GB. Not sure if I should go dual channel (2 x 16GB) or quad channel (4 x 8GB)...)
4) Samsung 860 EVO (carried over from existing PC)
5) WD SATA SSD (carried over from existing PC)
6) WD Blue HDD (carried over from existing PC)
7) A Cooler Master PSU (carried over from existing PC)

I've shortlisted these motherboards:

1) ASROCK B760M PG LIGHTNING
2) GIGABYTE B760M H DDR4
3) MSI PRO B760M-G DDR4

Not entirely sure which one i should opt for. To me it seems the ASROCK is the most feature/ports packed. It's the only one on the list with 4 RAM slots too.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!

This post has been edited by PepegaMan: Mar 7 2024, 10:44 PM
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post Mar 7 2024, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(PepegaMan @ Mar 7 2024, 10:04 PM)
Hi all, i'm looking for a mATX motherboard for around RM600++ (RM700 MAX) to accommodate these components:

1) Intel i5-14500 CPU (NEW)
2) NVIDIA 4070 Super (NEW)
3) 32GB of DDR4 RAM (currently on 16GB, planning on adding another 16GB. Not sure if I should go dual channel (2 x 16GB) or quad channel (4 x 8GB)...)
4) Samsung 860 EVO (carried over from existing PC)
5) WD SATA SSD (carried over from existing PC)
6) WD Blue HDD (carried over from existing PC)
7) A Cooler Master PSU (carried over from existing PC)

I've shortlisted these motherboards:

1) ASROCK B760M PG LIGHTNING
2) GIGABYTE B760M H DDR4
3) MSI PRO B760M-G DDR4

Not entirely sure which one i should opt for. To me it seems the ASROCK is the most feature/ports packed. It's the only one on the list with 4 RAM slots too.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!
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simmarjit
post Mar 8 2024, 12:24 AM

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Quite annoying that AM5 ITX Mobos are so expensive ...
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post Mar 8 2024, 02:47 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Feb 29 2024, 07:31 AM)
Motherboard alone already more than half of the budget minimum. Good luck!
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Any other suggestion.... I was looking around garage sales section and found some legacy P45 or X58.. wondering if these chipset can works with W10
My objective to upgrade to Win 10 was due to recently our bank PBE had updated requirement for browser which leads to old (Windows 7) browser failed to work with their banking app.. so we need to get the OS updated....

This post has been edited by Ichitech: Mar 8 2024, 02:59 AM
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post Mar 8 2024, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(Ichitech @ Mar 8 2024, 02:47 AM)
Any other suggestion.... I was looking around garage sales section and found some legacy P45 or X58.. wondering if these chipset can works with W10
My objective to upgrade to Win 10 was due to recently our bank PBE had updated requirement for browser which leads to old (Windows 7) browser failed to work with their banking app.. so we need to get the OS updated....
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Those are ancient hardware. Very unlikely it will support. I would advise getting at least Pentium G6405 or Core i3-10100 setup for future proofing . New Windows 11 also doesn't support a lot of old hardware.

This one is extremely value for money.

Core i3-10105 (i7-7700 in disguise) - 383
MSI B560M Pro-E - 320
Kingston 8GB DDR4-3200 X2 - 180

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 8 2024, 08:53 AM)
Those are ancient hardware. Very unlikely it will support. I would advise getting at least Pentium G6405 or Core i3-10100 setup for future proofing . New Windows 11 also doesn't support a lot of old hardware.

This one is extremely value for money.

Core i3-10105 (i7-7700 in disguise) - 383
MSI B560M Pro-E - 320
Kingston 8GB DDR4-3200 X2 - 180
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Well very thank you for the suggestion....I was also still wandering from that CPU which have LGA1200...just realized u post 1 combination.. that was 2x more then our budget...what about AMD will it cheaper?
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QUOTE(Ichitech @ Mar 8 2024, 09:18 AM)
Well very thank you for the suggestion....I was also still wandering from that CPU which have LGA1200...just realized u post 1 combination.. that was 2x more then our budget...what about AMD will it cheaper?
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If you cannot accept the reality of crappy ringgit and inflation, it is hard. Even the food today is already more than 5 times the cost compared with 30 years ago.

Recommendation is new parts. I've picked i3-10105 instead of Pentium G6405 because Pentium is currently ridiculously overpriced. Around RM320 for 2 cores, 4 threads. Pay RM60 more for Core i3-10105 that comes with additional 2 cores.

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Asrock A320M-HDV - 199
Kingston 8GB DDR4-3200 X2 - 180

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post Mar 8 2024, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(PepegaMan @ Mar 7 2024, 10:04 PM)
Hi all, i'm looking for a mATX motherboard for around RM600++ (RM700 MAX) to accommodate these components:

1) Intel i5-14500 CPU (NEW)
2) NVIDIA 4070 Super (NEW)
3) 32GB of DDR4 RAM (currently on 16GB, planning on adding another 16GB. Not sure if I should go dual channel (2 x 16GB) or quad channel (4 x 8GB)...)
4) Samsung 860 EVO (carried over from existing PC)
5) WD SATA SSD (carried over from existing PC)
6) WD Blue HDD (carried over from existing PC)
7) A Cooler Master PSU (carried over from existing PC)

I've shortlisted these motherboards:

1) ASROCK B760M PG LIGHTNING
2) GIGABYTE B760M H DDR4
3) MSI PRO B760M-G DDR4

Not entirely sure which one i should opt for. To me it seems the ASROCK is the most feature/ports packed. It's the only one on the list with 4 RAM slots too.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!
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1. Always dual channel
2. B760m MSI a WiFi
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Mar 8 2024, 09:36 AM)
1. Always dual channel
2. B760m MSI a WiFi
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Thanks sir!

Just found out running four slots is also called dual channel 😅

You mean 2 x 16GB right?
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QUOTE(PepegaMan @ Mar 8 2024, 10:08 AM)
Thanks sir!

Just found out running four slots is also called dual channel 😅

You mean 2 x 16GB right?
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I would advise avoiding 4 sticks of RAM. Compatibility is lower.
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QUOTE(Ichitech @ Mar 8 2024, 02:47 AM)
Any other suggestion.... I was looking around garage sales section and found some legacy P45 or X58.. wondering if these chipset can works with W10
My objective to upgrade to Win 10 was due to recently our bank PBE had updated requirement for browser which leads to old (Windows 7) browser failed to work with their banking app.. so we need to get the OS updated....
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Win10 will only get supported for the next 1.5 years before its obsoleted unless your Enterprise customer, when they do alot of business platforms will deprecate Win10 support as well so better to shoot for a Win11 capable system to upgrade at least.

Also iinm, Win11 requires hardware TPM so older systems will not do.

Try target something from 10th Gen Cometlake /11th Gen Rocketlake series as these has protection from all the infamous security holes in past Intel CPUs. These will also get supported way into Windows12

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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Mar 8 2024, 12:24 AM)
Quite annoying that AM5 ITX Mobos are so expensive ...
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You ady paying AM5 tax then on top you add ITX tax as well, and if you go ROG then you tambah Asus tax. On top this you now have to add on 2% extra Madani SST tax and taxation from our shitty Madani currency. lol.gif

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QUOTE(PepegaMan @ Mar 8 2024, 10:08 AM)
Thanks sir!

Just found out running four slots is also called dual channel 😅

You mean 2 x 16GB right?
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Most consumer PC mobo are only setup for dual channel whether its 2 or 4 RAM slots you see. Only Threadripper /Xeon will have quad channel RAM config.

Running 2x16GB sticks is more stable than 4x8GB but only slightly as the rank config for both is the same so chances to have problems getting up to XMP speed is lebih kurang sama. If want hassle free get 2x8GB as 8GB DDR4 sticks nearly always is single rank.

Do you really need 32GB? If yes, then 2x16GB and it doesnt matter whether the mobo has 2 or 4 slots coz be warned that your likely to have stability issues if you try add another 2x16GB sticks (for 64GB). So dont go waste your money later.
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Mar 8 2024, 10:49 AM)
You ady paying AM5 tax then on top you add ITX tax as well, and if you go ROG then you tambah Asus tax. On top this you now have to add on 2% extra Madani SST tax and taxation from our shitty Madani currency.  lol.gif
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DDR5 tax also LUL
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QUOTE(PepegaMan @ Mar 8 2024, 10:08 AM)
Thanks sir!

Just found out running four slots is also called dual channel 😅

You mean 2 x 16GB right?
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had u bought the 14500 n other new parts?

dual channel in layman means 2 stick la.. haha.. yes i means 2 x 16.. 4 x ram just make the latency higher
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Mar 8 2024, 11:05 AM)
Most consumer PC mobo are only setup for dual channel whether its 2 or 4 RAM slots you see. Only Threadripper /Xeon will have quad channel RAM config.

Running 2x16GB sticks is more stable than 4x8GB but only slightly as the rank config for both is the same so chances to have problems getting up to XMP speed is lebih kurang sama. If want hassle free get 2x8GB as 8GB DDR4 sticks nearly always is single rank.

Do you really need 32GB? If yes, then 2x16GB and it doesnt matter whether the mobo has 2 or 4 slots coz be warned that your likely to have stability issues if you try add another 2x16GB sticks (for 64GB). So dont go waste your money later.
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Thanks for the detailed explanation.

Since i changing most of the parts thought sekali gus get 32GB RAM, since most AAA games also need 16GB minimum these days. Futureproof a bit.

QUOTE(myway1985 @ Mar 8 2024, 01:46 PM)
had u bought the 14500 n other new parts?

dual channel in layman means 2 stick la.. haha.. yes i means 2 x 16.. 4 x ram just make the latency higher
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14500 on the way, mobo, GPU and RAM not yet. Rest of the parts carrying over from existing system hehe.

Sorry sorry that day i read you letak 4 sticks pun considered dual channel hahahaha so i clarify a bit 🫢
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QUOTE(PepegaMan @ Mar 8 2024, 02:19 PM)
Thanks for the detailed explanation.

Since i changing most of the parts thought sekali gus get 32GB RAM, since most AAA games also need 16GB minimum these days. Futureproof a bit.
14500 on the way, mobo, GPU and RAM not yet. Rest of the parts carrying over from existing system hehe.

Sorry sorry that day i read you letak 4 sticks pun considered dual channel hahahaha so i clarify a bit 🫢
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Mobo GPU n ram.. pm me Ur budget.. I korek stock
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Mar 8 2024, 02:51 PM)
Mobo GPU n ram.. pm me Ur budget.. I korek stock
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MSI PRO B760M-A
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Sorry i dont lurk here often, you got your own kedai?

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