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myway1985
post Mar 8 2024, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(PepegaMan @ Mar 8 2024, 03:19 PM)
I looking for

MSI PRO B760M-A
ZOTAC 4070 Super Twin Edge OC
16GB KVR (3200MHz) x 2

Sorry i dont lurk here often, you got your own kedai?
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I got company...no kedai.. biasa I only deal business to business...when free time Baru lurk here.. my company link in the signature...

Later balik time quote u .. kvr ram boh cheap oso.. almost 360 some big brand
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post Mar 8 2024, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Mar 8 2024, 12:52 PM)
DDR5 tax also LUL
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Lucky you DDR5 tax ady added into the AM5 tax so you buy 1 tax 2. Haha lol.gif

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post Mar 8 2024, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(PepegaMan @ Mar 8 2024, 03:19 PM)
I looking for

MSI PRO B760M-A
ZOTAC 4070 Super Twin Edge OC
16GB KVR (3200MHz) x 2

Sorry i dont lurk here often, you got your own kedai?
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Spec in a good CPU cooler too, Thermalright PA120/SE or PS120/SE. Then you can draw max CPU performance with PL2 unlimited.

myway1985 your gonna bring in new PA120 MINI? Can do review when you get it?
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post Mar 8 2024, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 8 2024, 09:34 AM)
If you cannot accept the reality of crappy ringgit and inflation, it is hard. Even the food today is already more than 5 times the cost compared with 30 years ago.

Recommendation is new parts. I've picked i3-10105 instead of Pentium G6405 because Pentium is currently ridiculously overpriced. Around RM320 for 2 cores, 4 threads. Pay RM60 more for Core i3-10105 that comes with additional 2 cores.

AMD?

Athlon 3000G. - 235
Asrock A320M-HDV - 199
Kingston 8GB DDR4-3200 X2 - 180
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Wow.. looking at the spec still as of today.. Price for AMD vs Intel still the same as before so huge difference even I put G6405 in the line for 2 core vs 2 core.... Missed those time so much when u can get a decent CPU + MOBO + RAM for RM400 10 years back..
By the way where do u get all the pricelist and the product available? Seems like those pricelist website all already gone

Last time we used to have hardwarezone, lowyat net front page, navotech, thundermatch at least with hardware price list available.. without this I can't even got idea to match
PepegaMan
post Mar 8 2024, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Mar 8 2024, 05:16 PM)
Spec in a good CPU cooler too, Thermalright PA120/SE or PS120/SE. Then you can draw max CPU performance with PL2 unlimited.

myway1985 your gonna bring in new PA120 MINI? Can do review when you get it?
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Forgot to mention i have an existing bequiet pure rock 2 cooler to bring over.

Checked on their website shouldn't have any fitting/compatibility issues touchwood
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post Mar 8 2024, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(Ichitech @ Mar 8 2024, 05:25 PM)
Wow.. looking at the spec still as of today.. Price for AMD vs Intel still the same as before so huge difference even I put G6405 in the line for 2 core vs 2 core.... Missed those time so much when u can get a decent CPU + MOBO + RAM for RM400 10 years back..
By the way where do u get all the pricelist and the product available? Seems like those pricelist website all already gone

Last time we used to have hardwarezone, lowyat net front page, navotech, thundermatch at least with hardware price list available.. without this I can't even got idea to match
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Usually Shopee & Lazada. If you have a decent budget, Sifu Myway above can quote to build for you too
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QUOTE(PepegaMan @ Mar 8 2024, 05:32 PM)
Forgot to mention i have an existing bequiet pure rock 2 cooler to bring over.

Checked on their website shouldn't have any fitting/compatibility issues touchwood
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AFAIK i5 14500 has max TDP of 154W and PR2 has a cooling TDP up to 150W so its gonna cut very close if you unlimit PL2 sweat.gif

If you cap PL2 boost limit to 150W then it should be fine. If you do see thermal throttle, try adding 2nd fan.
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post Mar 8 2024, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(Ichitech @ Mar 8 2024, 05:25 PM)
Wow.. looking at the spec still as of today.. Price for AMD vs Intel still the same as before so huge difference even I put G6405 in the line for 2 core vs 2 core.... Missed those time so much when u can get a decent CPU + MOBO + RAM for RM400 10 years back..
By the way where do u get all the pricelist and the product available? Seems like those pricelist website all already gone

Last time we used to have hardwarezone, lowyat net front page, navotech, thundermatch at least with hardware price list available.. without this I can't even got idea to match
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Yeah, can't do anything about it. Latest motherboards costs even more. Depends on the performance level. AMD not always cheaper.

You can check prices from Shopee. Buy part by part and assemble yourself. C-Zone and Viewnet puts their price list on their website.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/16jhw4M-jRG...kISGkazBA-/view

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_6j...feUULTGxIjPEFpo
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post Mar 8 2024, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Mar 8 2024, 05:42 PM)
AFAIK i5 14500 has max TDP of 154W and PR2 has a cooling TDP up to 150W so its gonna cut very close if you unlimit PL2  sweat.gif

If you cap PL2 boost limit to 150W then it should be fine. If you do see thermal throttle, try adding 2nd fan.
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This is where we keep our fingers crossed and pray laugh.gif

Thanks for the heads up!
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post Mar 8 2024, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(PepegaMan @ Mar 8 2024, 09:30 PM)
This is where we keep our fingers crossed and pray  laugh.gif

Thanks for the heads up!
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14500 at least need pa120 se..
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post Mar 8 2024, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Mar 8 2024, 10:04 PM)
14500 at least need pa120 se..
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Lai lai give good bundle price we talk lo tongue.gif
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Mar 8 2024, 10:04 PM)
14500 at least need pa120 se..
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PA outdate already! Phantom Spirit!
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post Mar 8 2024, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(PepegaMan @ Mar 8 2024, 10:18 PM)
Lai lai give good bundle price we talk lo  tongue.gif
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Colorful 4070 super ok boh .. zotac PCB thinner.. scare PCB board overheat
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post Mar 9 2024, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 8 2024, 06:11 PM)
Yeah, can't do anything about it. Latest motherboards costs even more. Depends on the performance level. AMD not always cheaper.

You can check prices from Shopee. Buy part by part and assemble yourself. C-Zone and Viewnet puts their price list on their website.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/16jhw4M-jRG...kISGkazBA-/view

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_6j...feUULTGxIjPEFpo
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So while lurking on shopee looking for my AMD 3200 build.. I suddenly found this
https://shp.ee/cf6if6f
Seems like the whole PC only at 880 (w/out RAM and SSD) spec is better then i310100 and AMD 3200 I guess? Is this kind of PC a better bet since this is just for office use PC...
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post Mar 9 2024, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(Ichitech @ Mar 9 2024, 12:33 AM)
So while lurking on shopee looking for my AMD 3200 build.. I suddenly found this
https://shp.ee/cf6if6f
Seems like the whole PC only at 880 (w/out RAM and SSD) spec is better then i310100 and AMD 3200 I guess? Is this kind of PC a better bet since this is just for office use PC...
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Nice find. Thats cheap. I wonder if the cooling could keep up or not. User reviews looks good though.

Do not buy the SSD. I smell crap ones from that store. Avoid any SSD that doesn't come with DRAM. Unless you like stutterfest.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B27...2gT4/edit#gid=0

RAM probably DDR4 SO-DIMM. Also, do not buy if that seller doesn't specify what he'll give. Ryzen loves RAM speed. I would advise a pair of DDR4-3200 SODIMM.

The con will be upgradeability. You have to buy entire set again when you need it.

This post has been edited by TristanX: Mar 9 2024, 01:49 AM
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post Mar 9 2024, 07:37 AM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Mar 8 2024, 05:42 PM)
AFAIK i5 14500 has max TDP of 154W and PR2 has a cooling TDP up to 150W so its gonna cut very close if you unlimit PL2  sweat.gif

If you cap PL2 boost limit to 150W then it should be fine. If you do see thermal throttle, try adding 2nd fan.
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Do you seriously need to uncork the CPU though sweat.gif
If TS is only gaming then there's not much point doing that icon_idea.gif
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post Mar 9 2024, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 8 2024, 10:25 PM)
PA outdate already! Phantom Spirit!
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If boss myway1985 ada carry and price difference from PA not night and day can consider la haha.

QUOTE(myway1985 @ Mar 8 2024, 11:22 PM)
Colorful 4070 super ok boh .. zotac PCB thinner.. scare PCB board overheat
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Sorry boss, have been using zotac and *touchwood* no problems, quite happy with the brand actually.

If you dont mind can quote me the other parts je.

QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Mar 9 2024, 07:37 AM)
Do you seriously need to uncork the CPU though sweat.gif
If TS is only gaming then there's not much point doing that icon_idea.gif
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My goal is to install the CPU and forget about it 😂 no idea how to OC or tinker with it
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post Mar 9 2024, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(Ichitech @ Mar 9 2024, 12:33 AM)
So while lurking on shopee looking for my AMD 3200 build.. I suddenly found this
https://shp.ee/cf6if6f
Seems like the whole PC only at 880 (w/out RAM and SSD) spec is better then i310100 and AMD 3200 I guess? Is this kind of PC a better bet since this is just for office use PC...
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Probably, but build quality can be dodgy and if something related to the system board/SoC fails you'll have to resort to component level board repair which itself may not be a good idea icon_idea.gif

If your budget is tight you might want to look at prebuilt machines from office liquidation/second hand stores (like those Dell Optiplexes/HP Elite Mini/Desk/Lenovo ThinkCentre) instead - note that you may need to pay a bit more for a SSD as most of them are only equipped with a HDD icon_idea.gif
Note: look for such machines with an 8th gen Intel CPU and above, as those machines are officially supported for Windows 11 (Windows 10 support is ending in about a year) icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(PepegaMan @ Mar 9 2024, 10:32 AM)
If boss myway1985 ada carry and price difference from PA not night and day can consider la haha.
Sorry boss, have been using zotac and *touchwood* no problems, quite happy with the brand actually.

If you dont mind can quote me the other parts je.
My goal is to install the CPU and forget about it 😂 no idea how to OC or tinker with it
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Then you can easily go for a lower end board (gaming doesn't stress the CPU VRMs much) icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 9 2024, 01:42 AM)
Nice find. Thats cheap. I wonder if the cooling could keep up or not. User reviews looks good though.

Do not buy the SSD. I smell crap ones from that store. Avoid any SSD that doesn't come with DRAM. Unless you like stutterfest.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B27...2gT4/edit#gid=0

RAM probably DDR4 SO-DIMM. Also, do not buy if that seller doesn't specify what he'll give. Ryzen loves RAM speed. I would advise a pair of DDR4-3200 SODIMM.

The con will be upgradeability. You have to buy entire set again when you need it.
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TBH I think even cheap DDR4 2666 would be plenty fast for TS usage anyway icon_idea.gif

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