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post Feb 19 2017, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 18 2017, 10:38 PM)
yr box is android 6, uses google android tv, not the normal android, right?

just curious.. r u able to sideload any app u want?

what app do u use to copy, delete, move files between this box and usb drive(s)?
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Hmmmm....Nexus player is on android 7.1 and Mibox is on android 6.0. Yeah both boxes are on google android tv and not normal android.

Yes, i am able to sideload apps via ES file explorer which is available from Playstore and I mainly uses this file explorer to manage files between the box and usb drives.

I notices some issues where some app for mobile that i side load could not work, as they would not turn landscape automatically on google android TV.
But if I installed these same mobile apps on normal android boxes they will auto turn to landscape mode making them workable (but need to have mouse or touchpad).

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How about Evpad Pro/Unblock Tech3?

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post Feb 19 2017, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(gwong @ Feb 19 2017, 09:57 AM)
Hmmmm....Nexus player is on android 7.1 and Mibox is on android 6.0. Yeah both boxes are on google android tv and not normal android.

Yes, i am able to sideload apps via ES file explorer which is available from Playstore and I mainly uses this file explorer to manage files between the box and usb drives.

I notices some issues where some app for mobile that i side load could not work, as they would not turn landscape automatically on google android TV.
But if I installed these same mobile apps on normal android boxes they will auto turn to landscape mode making them workable (but need to have mouse or touchpad).
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Ok, i follow.
I asked u that to confirm my experience with my smart android tv.
Looks like the same... as same platform, same google rules n restrictions.

The problem with es file explorer is starting android5, it prohibits certain functions like deleting a file on usb or copying from internal to usb. Delete internal and copy from usb to internal is ok. That is, one way only. Same with other file managers. Android box has same issue with es file exp but other file managers work fine.

But i do find some apps actually work better on androidtv compared to android box, e.g. kodi, popcorntime... besides netflix and youtube. And the voice search feature is very useful!

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Feb 19 2017, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(ttkyy @ Feb 19 2017, 10:21 AM)
How about Evpad Pro/Unblock Tech3?
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Based on HW specs, I estimate these to be RM110-150 boxes.
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Feb 19 2017, 12:20 AM)
Thanks for your feedback. thumbup.gif  Yeah, the groups ended up appearing like high to low per price & AV quality...not the intention. I'll add some comments to the Mi box.
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Not a big issue.

Over time, a user will get smart, converge on the right device for his/her needs.

Like everything, good things no cheap, cheap things no good.

But there can be human errors... paying too much for a box but not using the best features or paying too little for a box that don't have or can't do what is actually required by user.

It is for this reason that it makes no sense to respond to a question like "tell me which best box to buy".

Like buying a tv, a car or an apartment, there must be some reading and thinking process done first.
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So the nvidia shield is just usd 200 for a basic 2/16 box?
Hmm let's see if got friends going to US or not


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post Feb 19 2017, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Feb 19 2017, 11:42 AM)
Based on HW specs, I estimate these to be RM110-150 boxes.
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The box with foc lifetime 1000++ channels will cost RM5xx~RM6xx.


Actually worth to get it ?


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The box with foc lifetime? Really can FOC forever?

QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Feb 19 2017, 01:34 PM)
The box with foc lifetime 1000++ channels will cost RM5xx~RM6xx.
Actually worth to get it ?
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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Feb 19 2017, 01:34 PM)
The box with foc lifetime...RM5xx~RM6xx.
Actually worth to get it ?
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IMHO...really not worth. I haven't run out of things to watch yet...plus I don't want to support illegal business.

Temptation is strong smile.gif I know...don't succumb to the dark side...

What is good is not cheap; what is cheap is no good; what is free is best.

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QUOTE(Lurker @ Feb 19 2017, 12:56 PM)
So the nvidia shield is just usd 200 for a basic 2/16 box?
Hmm let's see if got friends going to US or not
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if willing to give up warranty, it's a good price.

u probably know all else about it, but there may be one thing u should be aware - this box works on google androidtv, i.e. it is not like most other android boxes with their own launcher, settings, etc.

i do not know for sure but i think it works just like the androidtv in premium smart tv's.

it has its own playstore, own rules, not as comprehensive as the normal playstore.

some apps like hulu and amazon will probably not appear in playstore once it detects non-US user.

u can sideload apps but it does not like certain types of apps, e.g. will reject certain apps deemed a security threat; some apps, it gives portrait view rather than landscape.

on the plus side, it gives netflix 4k, youtube 4k (useful if yr tv is 4k but has no androidtv). some apps actually work better becos they are designed specifically for android tv use.



too bad that we do not have enough nvidia shieldtv users here to provide a good review for local usage.

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Feb 19 2017, 01:34 PM)
The box with foc lifetime 1000++ channels will cost RM5xx~RM6xx.
Actually worth to get it ?
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that box w/ahem iptv is sold in pasar malam and coffeeshops.

we should not discuss illegal stuff here.
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QUOTE(gwong @ Feb 19 2017, 10:57 AM)
Hmmmm....Nexus player is on android 7.1 and Mibox is on android 6.0. Yeah both boxes are on google android tv and not normal android.

Yes, i am able to sideload apps via ES file explorer which is available from Playstore and I mainly uses this file explorer to manage files between the box and usb drives.

I notices some issues where some app for mobile that i side load could not work, as they would not turn landscape automatically on google android TV.
But if I installed these same mobile apps on normal android boxes they will auto turn to landscape mode making them workable (but need to have mouse or touchpad).
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i would prefer not use andriod 6 above as not much app support now. maybe later when all people moving to new andriod it should work. my minix still stuck with andriod 4 kitkat. hahaha
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QUOTE(NyOx @ Feb 19 2017, 02:23 PM)
i would prefer not use andriod  6 above as not much app support now. maybe later when all people moving to new andriod it should work. my minix still stuck with andriod 4 kitkat. hahaha
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I think so far it's okay, most apps that I use on android 6.0 is also working on android 7.1 but my experience is only limited to android tv.

Not sure if there are any boxes that have got the normal android 7.0 or above.
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Feb 19 2017, 12:20 AM)
Thanks for your feedback. thumbup.gif  Yeah, the groups ended up appearing like high to low per price & AV quality...not the intention. I'll add some comments to the Mi box.
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QUOTE(Lurker @ Feb 19 2017, 12:56 PM)
So the nvidia shield is just usd 200 for a basic 2/16 box?
Hmm let's see if got friends going to US or not
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Basic? shocking.gif shocking.gif shakehead.gif Have to meet em to know em. Enuf said.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(gwong @ Feb 19 2017, 02:32 PM)
I think so far it's okay, most apps that I use on android 6.0 is also working on android 7.1 but my experience is only limited to android tv.

Not sure if there are any boxes that have got the normal android 7.0 or above.
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I have android 4.4.2, 5.1, 6.0, 7.0. laugh.gif

I think 6 is most problematic.

7, all apps i have working on 4 and5, works good, no problem.
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 19 2017, 03:39 PM)
I have android 4.4.2, 5.1, 6.0, 7.0. laugh.gif

I think 6 is most problematic.

7, all apps i have working on 4 and5, works good, no problem.
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agree with you. i am having app compatibility issues using andriod 6 above. andriod 4 & 5 work like charm. meanwhile i will stick with it.
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 19 2017, 02:03 PM)
if willing to give up warranty, it's a good price.

u probably know all else about it, but there may be one thing u should be aware - this box works on google androidtv, i.e. it is not like most other android boxes with their own launcher, settings, etc.

i do not know for sure but i think it works just like the androidtv in premium smart tv's.

it has its own playstore, own rules, not as comprehensive as the normal playstore.

some apps like hulu and amazon will probably not appear in playstore once it detects non-US user.

u can sideload apps but it does not like certain types of apps, e.g. will reject certain apps deemed a security threat; some apps, it gives portrait view rather than landscape.

on the plus side, it gives netflix 4k, youtube 4k (useful if yr tv is 4k but has no androidtv). some apps actually work better becos they are designed specifically for android tv use.
too bad that we do not have enough nvidia shieldtv users here to provide a good review for local usage.
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Probably not many here are using it since we can substitute to a cheaper box with decent hardware and use ehem2 stuffs than paying for subscription like Netflix and so on.

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 19 2017, 02:03 PM)
if willing to give up warranty, it's a good price.

u probably know all else about it, but there may be one thing u should be aware - this box works on google androidtv, i.e. it is not like most other android boxes with their own launcher, settings, etc.

i do not know for sure but i think it works just like the androidtv in premium smart tv's.

it has its own playstore, own rules, not as comprehensive as the normal playstore.

some apps like hulu and amazon will probably not appear in playstore once it detects non-US user.

u can sideload apps but it does not like certain types of apps, e.g. will reject certain apps deemed a security threat; some apps, it gives portrait view rather than landscape.

on the plus side, it gives netflix 4k, youtube 4k (useful if yr tv is 4k but has no androidtv). some apps actually work better becos they are designed specifically for android tv use.
too bad that we do not have enough nvidia shieldtv users here to provide a good review for local usage.
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You want to check out "TV App Repo" apk? This to help sideloading on leanback launcher. I don't have smart TV to try.

There's also apk to force landscape.

We just need one shield user smile.gif there's a thread in the hardware section...

Amazon ships it free to Singapore...there are more users there...

This post has been edited by dwRK: Feb 19 2017, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(jhleo1 @ Feb 19 2017, 01:51 PM)
The box with foc lifetime? Really can FOC forever?
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As long as their business running ...the service will continue..

QUOTE(dwRK @ Feb 19 2017, 01:51 PM)
IMHO...really not worth. I haven't run out of things to watch yet...plus I don't want to support illegal business.

Temptation is strong smile.gif  I know...don't succumb to the dark side...

What is good is not cheap; what is cheap is no good; what is free is best.

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Those free apps always buffering, not loading.. very frustrated when watching movie...
Paid apps have people take care the server.. anything down.. they will service..


QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 19 2017, 02:05 PM)
that box w/ahem iptv is sold in pasar malam and coffeeshops.

we should not discuss illegal stuff here.

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Ok...

This post has been edited by sgpdsmss: Feb 19 2017, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Feb 19 2017, 04:41 PM)
Those free apps always buffering, not loading.. very frustrated when watching movie...
Paid apps have people take care the server.. anything down.. they will service...
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I can stream 3 YouTube channels & 1 TV/movie at 720p without buffering on Unifi vip5...

I guess you need to find better sources...

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