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 FundSuperMart v18 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

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post Oct 19 2017, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Oct 19 2017, 11:35 AM)
Am I seeing this but Titanic Fund is not really moving much when US market keeps on hitting or breaking all time high?
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Yklooi will say Algozen™ ver four did not recommend Titanic but instead said to buy TA Tech cool2.gif bruce.gif
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post Oct 22 2017, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(Kokman @ Oct 22 2017, 11:19 AM)
Of all statements I have read, this statement made by Neoh is what I like most:

Neoh says the most important principle in investment is to be well diversified because a single good choice can compensate for several poor choices. “The mathematical principle that most ­investors don’t understand is this: What is the biggest loss you can suffer in one share? 100%, right? But what is the biggest gain you can make from one share? It can be infinite.”
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Who is this Merrs Neoh?
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post Oct 22 2017, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(Kokman @ Oct 22 2017, 11:41 AM)
Legendary value investor in Malaysia Dr. Neoh Soon Kean, he runs http://www.dynaquest.com.my/ company

Quote:

Dynaquest provides boutique investment advisory services to a number of large to very large investment institutions including insurance companies, mutual funds and investment companies as well as individuals.

At present Dynaquest provides investment advisory services to portfolios with total market value exceeding RM600 million.
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Oh! Him notworthy.gif

I knew about Dynaquest, but I do not know who the founder is. Yeah! I totally agree that Dynaquest is totally legit and has built their street - cred.

Long long time ago, when I was still a stock player, Dynaquest was definitely one of my playbook. That, coipled with the knowledge of fundamental analysis such as DCF model & PER etc that I used them to help me pick my counters.

Nonetheless that was before I became friend with Harry Markowitz and his MPT. Thereafter, I use only HM - MPT to do my investment. Now, I uesd tools such as CAPM, std - dev, corr-coeff et al to do my portfolio modelling.

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post Oct 26 2017, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(Streetrat @ Oct 26 2017, 12:32 PM)
Hi, i would like to ask for suggestions and comments on my funds.

1. Affin Hwang Select Bond Fund 10%
2. RHB Asian Income Fund 5%
3. CIMB Principal Global Titan Fund 20%
4. CIMB Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund 20%
5. CIMB Principal Greater China Equity Fund 10%
6. Kenanga Growth Fund 10%
7. TA Global Technology Fund 10%
8. Affin Hwang Select Asia (ex Japan) Quantum Fund 5%
9. Manulife India Equity Fund 10%

Thank you.
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post Oct 26 2017, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(Streetrat @ Oct 26 2017, 02:31 PM)
Can i know which funds are overlapping?
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Go to Morningstar website, key in your UTF in the X-Ray my port function, check out the correlation matrix. See how many have values greater than 0.8. You will then realize what I am talking about.

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post Oct 26 2017, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(2387581 @ Oct 26 2017, 07:34 PM)
They obviously do not know about FSM nor eUT.

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post Oct 27 2017, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(howszat @ Oct 26 2017, 09:49 PM)
Yes true, if qualified by "if you want to retire rich and young". UTF will not give you that.

One would need to go for higher returns investments to"retire rich and young".

Higher returns, higher risks, and you could lose your pants.
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The video presenter suggested two alternatives to UTF for growing wealth:

1) Set up your own business. doh.gif Duh! Then that would not be classified as passive income. That would be active income.

2) Buy ETF. If ETF is available and accessible easily like across the causeway, sudah lama gua cabut beli ETF loh! When I say accessible, it include easy availability of essential comparison tools such as Std-Dev, ROI, corr-coeff, easy switching bla bla bla. Not what we have here in Malaysia, that is, the ETFs are all stand alone units.

Hence, these presenter are typically blurting out info that they hear, read or seen elsewhere in a foreign context without taking into the local context. So typical of
"know little bit, act like a pro" mentality.

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post Oct 27 2017, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(Streetrat @ Oct 27 2017, 02:09 PM)
After much though, Is this a better combination?

1. Eastspring Investments Dynamic 15%
2. Affin Hwang Select Asia (ex Jpn) Quantum 15%
3. Affin Hwang Select Bond (RM) 10%
4. CIMB-Principal Greater China Equity 10%
5. CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Inc 20%
6. Kenanga Growth 10%
7. CIMB-Principal Global Titans 20%

Suggestions and comments are welcome, thank you.
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QUOTE(T231H @ Oct 27 2017, 02:22 PM)
Unknown to yr risk appetite n objectives....i simply tembak.....
Try cut down on asia pac (include china, hk)...get some india.tech.reits for diversification?
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QUOTE(funnyface @ Oct 27 2017, 02:44 PM)
I also simply tembak  devil.gif
Cut down CIMB APDI by 5%, remove Quantum (Yet to prove its worthiness after the new strategy)
Put 5% into India, 5% into TA GTF and 10% into REITs  devil.gif
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With so many tembak(s).... yer gotta ask yerself, are you feelin' lucky? Well, do ya? Punk!
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Is it safer to play Pokémon style? Gotta catch em' al?
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post Oct 27 2017, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(Kokman @ Oct 27 2017, 10:58 AM)
Fully agree.

A thing to mention here is: UT investing is a means to build wealth, we either sustain our wealth level (if we can catch up with the inflation rate) or becomes wealthier than what we have now (if we can outperform the inflation rate). This is very important, if we cannot achieve it, how can we become rich? So UT investing is an important thing to retire rich and well. No doubt.

Then is the leverage, if we want to be rich we need to use leverage (properly!). That's the phase that comes after the stage we know how to build wealth with confidence. There comes also home buyer, or business at scale that loans are used properly. Those are some example for getting rich (before retirement?)

I do not agree what the reporter said either. He must not belittle UT investing, especially on a platform where funds of broad markets could be easily accessed, and at a substantially low front loading fees.

Happy investing!
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I blame nowadays the internet for perpetuating a lie that everyone can or must be rich. Or that everyone should do business or some sort of entrepreneur endeavour. What the internet conveniently left out is that rich people is like a pyramid, only a few are rich and the majority are poor with the middle group simply being middle income people.

If you are not rich, I mean, so be it... it is not a crime nor a death knell. Unlike what Jack Ma said, you do not have to be rich to live comfortably. I am certainly rich compared to the majority below me demographically and I am certainly poor compared to the few very rich above me in the pyramid scheme of things.

Am I an entrepreneur? Am I a business man? No, I am neither. I am just a salary man who build wealth the old fashion way... that is I spend less than what I earn and invest the rest. Can I be a business man? I doubt so. Can I be an entrepreneur? No way. Do I need to buy the BMW or live in a large mansion to be happy? No. Be contented and be happy.

To me, UTF is a good tool for regular Joe like me to accumulate wealth in a safe and easily accessible way in a sense I do not need to come out with a large capital outlay. I can invest in sum that I am comfortable with. I can certainly stop at anytime I want without penalty. And I can liquidate the fund at anytime I want. What sort of investment tool can you think off that can offer such freedom or flexibility?

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post Oct 28 2017, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 28 2017, 09:17 PM)
Theoretically can. But last time when I tried opening, told me to get a SG bank account first. That's how I got my POEMS SG account. SG bank account > POEMS SG.  Best to contact their customer service and see. Email them talktophillip@phillip.com.sg
Application is by post/walk in.

Yes. It's call Phillip SMART Portfolio.  Also 0.5%/year platform fees. This is different from FSM SG as FSM SG uses only UT. This use combination of UT and ETFs.

For real ETF automated managed portfolio, can considered the following.

- Stashaway
- Autowealth
- Smartly

Geez.  People are so touchy.  Reported mad.gif
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 28 2017, 09:17 PM)
Theoretically can. But last time when I tried opening, told me to get a SG bank account first. That's how I got my POEMS SG account. SG bank account > POEMS SG.  Best to contact their customer service and see. Email them talktophillip@phillip.com.sg
Application is by post/walk in.

Yes. It's call Phillip SMART Portfolio.  Also 0.5%/year platform fees. This is different from FSM SG as FSM SG uses only UT. This use combination of UT and ETFs.

For real ETF automated managed portfolio, can considered the following.

- Stashaway
- Autowealth
- Smartly

Geez.  People are so touchy.  Reported mad.gif
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LOL, why you so famous wan?
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post Nov 1 2017, 09:20 PM

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Another month passes....

Oct 2017 is a happy - happy month right? All your ports went up-up-up. Syiok boh?

Time for another tok-kok-sing-song-blow-water post. "My daddy is bigger than your daddy" type post.

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Port did a 2% M-o-M gain. That translates to one of my best M-o-M ROI for the past 12-mths rolling tracking. To give an idea, a 2% monthly gain is like 50% of my gross salary.

In the precceding 12 months rolling, only one month gave a negative return. The other eleven months are green.

Overall port ROI is 8% p.a. Risk to reward ratio is 1.17, Distribution of ROI is positively skewed with negative kurtosis. This means that my expected value have more tendency to cluster around the mean value. In this sense, it means it is more predictable than positive kurtosis value. Large positive value kurtosis means that extreme outlier outcomes are more prevalent.

Forecasted future ROI is exponential with respect to time.

The port's alpha is generated by TA Tech and China fund. Manureits and Esther bond meanwhile made my beta small which meant that the overall port does not swing up and down too much (maintain low volatility). RHB EMB & IDS meanwhile are there as wildcard (pure diversification) as sometimes they do provide pleasant surprises. My IDS exposure is mainly because of the PRU - 14 narrative.

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post Nov 2 2017, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(spiderman17 @ Nov 2 2017, 03:59 AM)
your port is approximately your 2yr salary hmm.gif
do you have other significant investment outside of this port? how does the investment size compares?
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Yah, thereabout.... slightly bigger, 2.5 Yr.

The other significant asset is my KWSP port which is double than this cash port.

I don't have properties, I don't flip prop. My wealth comes purely from salary in which I spend less than I earn, then invest the rest.

I save, then invest using DCA, i.e., the regular Joe method. I still have 20 more years thereabout till retirement.

If I have started much younger, in my twenties, I would be in a much better position now. I only started to be financially savvy in my mid 30's. I wasted ten years of time in my twenties. Having said this, I do notice some of these people who join the forum are much younger. Kudos to them to be financially savvy at such a young age. Let me tell you young people, it is worth it.... Delayed gratification is worth it! Watch your risk, let the return take care of itself....

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QUOTE(frankzane @ Nov 2 2017, 02:01 PM)
I'm still considering to get a REIT fund but doesn't seems to get much encouragement...

Any alternatives?
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What sort of support you want?

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post Nov 3 2017, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(walkman660 @ Nov 2 2017, 11:35 PM)
FSM Managed Portfolio <Moderately Aggresive>

With less than 5 months time , ROI 6.12% IRR 16.5 % . the team are doing pretty good right now i guess  rclxms.gif
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Ding ding ding!!!

In the blue corner weighing 180 lbs, known as the crystal -ball of LYN - FSM, we have Algozen™ ver four.....

In the red corner, weighing in at 200 lbs, new kid on the block, introducing FSM managed balanced portfolio....

Who shall come be the winner?

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Word of caution to those who seems to get a hard - on each time the word IRR is being used....

IRR is a useless measure when your data is short and only have less than one year. In this instance, it gives you only a pure " shiok " sendiri feelin' , nothing more.

You want IRR, it becomes more meaningful when you have 2 years or more... I prefer three years or more.

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p/s a little bit more on IRR. IRR is a statistical measurement that is classified as inferential statistic. For inferential stats to be meaningful, you need a large data, n. If you only have a handful of data and you use them, you risk it being a biased measurement. For example, since beginning of this year until now, the market has been on an uptrend, and if you only start to use data that is recently, you will sure get a " shiok " sendiri IRR value. Be warned.


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QUOTE(yklooi @ Nov 3 2017, 12:04 PM)
cry.gif my IRR had been impotent  cry.gif  cry.gif  brows.gif
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See what I mean? When you use large data set, now you will not be so " shiok " sendiri....

Newbies, be warned.

Because I see these noobs, like only five mths or six months data set, get IRR double digit = so high = shiok sendiri. Have to bring them down to reality a bit.

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QUOTE(thesnake @ Nov 4 2017, 12:18 PM)
master Xuxen, you and a few other forumers here inspire me to start saving and investing in FSM and others. I started in late 20s (28) with about almost 150k and have never looked back since. my next aim is of course to reach a portfolio of 2 years worth of salary and hopefully + kwsp will reach a comfortable amount by the time i'm 35.
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Good man,

Since you have benefited, it means one more soul will have less probability to go into financial distress.

Good man,

Do not forget to always give back to the society in any form of charity in the future.

Good man,

May you have the opportunity to teach others how to have financial savvy.

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QUOTE(stark4431 @ Nov 3 2017, 11:30 PM)
hi... my cc bank called up and offer this 3.88% p.a. interest for cash advance from 12 months up to 60 months repayment period... with no any other hidden fees, or penalty for early settlement.

is it advisable to take this leverage and invest in UT? all opinions and experience are welcome, thanks in advance.
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3.88% personal loan, assuming you take the 60 months option will yield an annual effective rate of 7.21% p.a.

Hence your hurdle rate or your IRR must at least be above 7.21%.

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Maybe you want to go all aggresive and get lucky.

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QUOTE(ruben7389 @ Nov 7 2017, 10:14 AM)
hi guys

would like some advise on my EPf funds

bought into Eastspring Small Cap fund about 3 years ago and got about 35% so far

Would like to add more EPF investments and also possibly switch my current EISCAP to something else within Eastspring since no switching fee? or possibly a partial switch ?

Should I switch this or keep this? if switch was looking at EASTSPRING INVESTMENTS DINASTI EQUITY FUND  looks like they have been on a roll quite consistently

Also, if I buy into a new fund, what shall I buy? KGF? or something else? (new purchase will be about 30% of EPF portfolio in FSM

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I sold my ESISC in Jan 2017 and masuk Dinasti.... look at the diverging gap btw the two. Sometimes I think I betul - betul have a crystal - ball.

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P/s ESISC was the darling of ES for the last two years [ from 2015 - 2016 ]. If you were in it, congrats rclxms.gif She made you some real money!



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