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post Aug 17 2017, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(killdavid @ Aug 17 2017, 08:27 AM)
Here is your darling fund manager
Lim Tze Cheng
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“We see things very differently,” he said. “I’m shut off to the market in a sense. If you ask me what is the level of the KLCI, I don’t even know.”

He definitely can think very differently, and his stock picks are very unique. That's the reason inter-pac fund can have extraordinary YTD return.

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post Aug 17 2017, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Aug 17 2017, 12:00 PM)
nod.gif yes,...looking at his previous records of RHB Smart Treasure...ave > 23% pa for 5 yrs....
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Are u sure or not? from when to when? 23% pa for 5 years = 181.5% ROI, I didn't see that high return in 5yrs graph of RHB Smart Tresure...

Btw, i don't think it is an apple to apple comparison, to predict future performance of Inter pac funds with pass performance of RHB Smart Tresure. Because, RHB Smart Treasure limited by its investment strategies, such as certain % in IPO, certain % in stock with <RM2, certain % in stock with price RM2-5, certain % in top 50 stocks. Very hard to manage this kind of funds. While, for Inter pac funds, they are flexi fund, can be 100% in stock (big/mid/small cap) or 100% in cash. They are very different.
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post Aug 17 2017, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Aug 17 2017, 01:05 PM)
I thought someone said that he picks the thinly traded counters and then gradually beat up the price, that's the reason for him to be able to achieve higher return ?
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Actually, most of small cap stocks are tiny traded counters, quite often no volume for the whole day.

Btw, stock is a zero sum game. If he want to buy certain stock (to jack up his stocks' price), he have to match the price with seller. If nobody want to sell the stock, he cannot buy, then cannot jack up the price.

Unless he offer a very high price with a few lots (compare to its holding) . if the bid match, can jack up the price significantly without jack up average buy in price significantly.

But, I didn't see this trend in the volume of Visdynamic/ techfast. The volume is consistent. EPS is growing qtq. they are healthy companies IMO.
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post Aug 18 2017, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Aug 17 2017, 06:05 PM)
KLCI is the index of a group of the largest companies in the country's stock exchange, alike Dow Jones, STI (Singapore) or HSI (Hong Kong). Good as a barometer to gauge the state of economy in general.

I don't think the incdex would be any help in picking stocks - especially those listed outside of the main board, in the ACE market.

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As an investor in UT funds, I think it is advisable to read the fund's prospectus to know what sort of stocks it can have. For example, for a small-cap fund, its prospectus would define what are the permissible stocks it can invest in - like being a component in the bursa small-cap index, capitalisation from 300 million to 1.2 billion. etc. etc.

If the fund is picking stocks in ACE, then it should not be compared to another small-cap fund holding stcoks in the small-cap index and compare only their returns without taking other factors into consideration. The risk is not the same. Extraodinary returns, extraodinary risk.
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Agree. thumbsup.gif
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post Aug 19 2017, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 19 2017, 03:25 PM)


In case you didn't notice, i took the following opportunity
- Sell down of reits after trump, pump in for manulife AP reits (this was a big drop)
- Pump in money during india "removal of currency"
- Pump in money into asia pacific when sell down after trump



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The drops in all 3 examples above were not exceed or even close to 20%. Y u pumped money leh? Not match ur theory worh. brows.gif
The money u pumped in 3 events above should gave u 20% return by now. If u waited for 20% drops at those time, u loss 20% profit currently in ur pocket now.

It is so called opportunities cost, understand?
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post Aug 19 2017, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 19 2017, 07:28 PM)
Boleh. Why not. Summary:
- Timing is important. If you buy in 2007 (height of bull market) vs buy in 2009 (max of bear market) your returns today is very different (if you don't chicken out and sell and just hold)

- Opportunity present itself once every few years. If you topup small amount, your gain is insignificant. If you topup big amount, your gain is very significant. Hence save up for this opportunity. Old people have shown their proof of waiting pays handsomely so why as young people we cannot wait?

- Our beloved RM is dropping 1-2% a year. Compound this over long time, the drop become significant. That's why a 10% return in RM terms is not the same with a 10% return if we use other currency (over few years).
Investing using RM at average 10%p.a  (10/4/2008-13/8/2017)
Initial cost = RM10000
Final returns = RM28531.16

Investing using SGD at average 10% p a
(10/8/2008-13/8/2017)
Initial cost = SGD4341.88 (RM10k/2.30315)
Final returns = SGD12387.89 = RM39041.05 (SGD12387.89/3.15155)

Numbers don't lie.

- Because the RM drops, drops, parents sending kids overseas need to find more RM to pay. They may suddenly find themselves needing to fork out 20-30% extra (USD from 3.8-4.x). Now had the parent invest say using SGD to finance the kids edu, they need not need to fork out so much as the SGD really did appreciate againat the USD.
Eg. RM-USD (2008-2017) data is taken from XE.com
- 10/4/2008-> 13/8/2017
- 3.18990 becomes 4.29778
- 34% decrease vs the USD.
Eg. SGD-USD (2008-2017) data taken from XE.com
- 10/4/2008-> 13/8/2017
- 1.379 becomes 1.36438
- Holy!!! SGD appreciated 1.06% vs the USD.

Parents who funded kid's edu using RM need to earn/find more RM so that kid can remain in school. whistling.gif whistling.gif Where are they suddenly going to find extra 30%?

Now who need to work harder for their kids edu? Someone who earns RM from their investment or someone who earns SGD from their investment?

- You don't need to be HNWI to invest overseas. A small amount is enough to start.

- All platforms are provided by myself after through research. If I don't invest in SG, how do I know all those platform?

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END OF SUMMARY

Maybe time to be a silent reader??? ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
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shakehead.gif You are totally dont understand what the unit trust is!
By investing ponzi 2 or nikko am spore equity etc , we r investing overseas, the investment r held as usd, sgd, hkd etc, not myr. Only we redeem, it will convert back to myr. Not only invest sgx, asx is called oversea investment. shakehead.gif

Do u know we can buy diiferent currency (usd, sgd) class of particular fund in Fsm msia? For eg, Nikko am spore can be bought using myr, sgd or usd. The total asset of each currency class are the SAME everyday, every moment, the currency is just work as unit. 100cm, 1000mm, 1m are all the same.
If u bought using usd, u ll receive usd in ur foreign currency account when u sell ur unit.

This way is more simple than investing in overseas' stocks directly. Unless u think u have more knowledge n resource than fund house research team, then u can do buy directly urself lo.

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post Aug 19 2017, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(estherkon @ Aug 19 2017, 08:35 PM)
So in the example above, is it better to invest in the non-myr class? What are the advantages and disadvantages of doing so considering that the RM is so weak?
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Depend on u. For me, it is too troublesome buying into non myr class. U have to tt, and transfer that non myr to fsm msia foreign currency account, not using fpx.

Dont be mislead by others. Currency is just an unit. All currency class on a SAME fund r holding the SAME investment. 1m 100cm n 1000mm are all the same. I am talking about n comparing nikko am myr class, sgd class n usd class.

Cannot compare master fund by united in spore n feeder fund managed by rhb in malaysia. It is different things.
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post Aug 27 2017, 09:32 PM

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For this time, i believe no significant rally before and after the GE.

Before GE, currently, gov dont have money to give many candies to market, in 2018 budget.
After GE, if no change gov, market will remain the same. If change gov, market will drop immy afte GE.
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post Aug 29 2017, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Aug 29 2017, 06:39 PM)
Not long time ago, there were queries, discussion, argument and self analysis assumption about why the sudden non performing Ponzi 1.0 over the past few months.....

they hear you, they go and find it out and now here it is......

"Affin Hwang Select Asia ex-Japan Quantum Fund :-  the fund has been underperforming its benchmark (MSCI Asia ex-Japan Small Cap Index) since April after the soft closure of the fund.
On our opinion, we think that the poor performance of this fund is partially due to the substantial inflow of funds during February to April of 2017 (before the fund soft closed).
By looking at the figure 1, one might notice that the cash holdings for the fund stood above 20% during February to April this year.
Hence, the relatively higher level of cash and cash equivalent instruments during that period might be one of the factor that dragged the returns of the fund (cash drag).
On top of that, the fund also suffered from a sharp plunge in one of its top holdings – Best-Pacific Int Holdings Ltd as the company had issued profit warning on the back of a challenging business outlook.
However, after communicating with the fund house, we understand that the fund manager had trimmed their holdings in that particular stock.
At this juncture, the fund manager has taken a more defensive position with higher allocation (about 20%) into higher yielding companies given the increasing market volatility.
Meanwhile, they still maintain a nimble position in order to grab the opportunity to rotate into more growth-centric names once market stabilises.

https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...und-Choice-8782

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TAGTF holds 40% in money market lah... many funds holding ~20% cash lah, includes KGF ...

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post Aug 30 2017, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Aug 30 2017, 05:14 PM)
The "E" is up.....

so the drop of -5.21% is most probably due to that too

no announcement of Manulife Greater China fund distribution in FSM maybe was due to FSM did not carry it....
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QUOTE(funnyface @ Aug 30 2017, 05:48 PM)
ah...make sense  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Aug 30 2017, 05:53 PM)
The date is out of sync, as the drop was on 28th, but the E appears on 29th. Same goes to Manulife Reits.

Do they do this as an exercise for the investors heart ?  rolleyes.gif
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As stated in Bloomberg, distribution 0.021 was given on 28/08. The big drop was on 28/08 also, so everything seems make sense.

LAST DIVIDEND (ON 08/28/2017)
0.021


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post Sep 4 2017, 07:51 PM

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Procedure of Transfer In:
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Please be informed that you are not able to transfer your holdings (Cash/EPF) from eunittrust.com.my into Fundsupermart.com as they do not have transfer out facility. Nonetheless, you may consider to redeem the funds in eunittrust.com.my and thereafter purchase other fund in our platform at 0% sales charge up to your redemption amount with the previous distributor.

You may follow the steps below :

1. First, you are required send us the redemption slip as supporting document for record purpose.
2. We will offer you 0% sales charge for the same redemption amount.
3. We will offer you 1 month buffer period (from the redemption date) to move in the funds.
4. This offer is applicable to all funds except for All Affin Hwang Asset Management Berhad wholesales funds.
5. When you want to utilize the offer, kindly send email to notify us to adjust sales charge manually after placing order online before 2:30pm.

Please be reminded that your final units may be different (less or more) depends on your selling price and buying price in different days.

We hope this clarifies.

Please feel free to contact us should you need further assistance.

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post Sep 4 2017, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(wonghs @ Sep 4 2017, 07:59 PM)
Thanks Hui Ching,
You mentioned holdings from eunittrust.com.my. Can it be eligible for funds redeemed from Public Mutual?  notworthy.gif
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It is reply from FSM CIS, received after I asked FSM about Transfer In from Eunittrust.
Anyway, the same procedure is applied to Public Mutual too.

I am not Hui Ching. She is one of the friendly FSM CIS. You may email/ call FSM CIS anytime anywhere, regarding ur question. They will reply u within 24 hours working time.


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post Sep 4 2017, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Sep 4 2017, 12:01 PM)
Then i am pretty sure FSM  will advise people with queries abt FSM's related products to get the info and replies  thru their official channel and not in lyn😄
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I have same feeling with you...

But, nonetheless, FSM purposely assign one of his employee to open FSM thread at Chinese Cari, to answer all question on behalf of FSM. The feedback are not frequent but all are very professional those u cannot find at this thread.

But, in lyn, FSM spy is always asking ppl with queries going to get the official answers from official channel. Not helpful, not as friendly as Hui Ching, Mark etc. brows.gif .


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post Sep 5 2017, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Sep 5 2017, 02:58 PM)
Out of curiosity, why do you want to transfer from philip to FSM? Eunittrust cheap cheap ma

To redeem and re-purchase may result in losses during the "transfer"
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Depends on situations, there are many reasons:
1. For easier management. Save time of browsing.
2. Save cost. Since this April Fool, I seldom put fresh money into FSM. Because i can buy at eUT with 0% sc. My monthly topup is always >5K. By "transferring", i can buy FSM Eq fund with 0% sc indirectly.
3. Limited fund choice at eUT. So i purchase Affin Hwang Select Bond at eUT with 0% sc, then use this facility to "transfer" n buy let say CIMB Greater China (not available in eUT) in FSM with 0% sc.
4. "Manual" Transfer seldom result a losses (unless u r transferring a bond fund), because
- Eq fund up n down, i can choose when to sell (when market is green) and when to buy (within 1 month) (when market is red).
- Moreover, i can buy any FSM funds with 0% sc not only 1 single fund.
- i even can split the purchase into a few smaller one that purchase at a few different dates to reduce the risk.

This post has been edited by i1899: Sep 5 2017, 11:06 PM
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post Sep 6 2017, 03:38 AM

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QUOTE(skynode @ Sep 5 2017, 11:08 PM)
Wow, great idea.  What a sophisticated investor.
So, to complete a transaction from e-unit trust purchase till purchase of FSM fund at 0% SC, how many days does it usually take for you?  2 weeks?
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y need rush rush to sell the funds with eUT, just for buying back from FSM with 0% sc? rclxub.gif
sell only when need $/ at right time and use the existing facility to buy back/ buy other fund without additional cost.

Looking back my record, this year, i used this facility 2 times only, all done within 1 month counted from the day i sold out the fund.
1. Precious Metal , sold after holding 1 month with ROI 6.5%. Used 0% token to top up CIMB greater China with FSM.
2. Nikko Am Spore, sold within 1 month with 4.9% ROI. Used 0% token to top up Manulife India by splitting into a few injections.


I sold the above funds because the ROI in the first month was ~5%, IRR was ~60%.

I still holding Nikko Spore & Affin Hwang Select Income with eUT, that I will keep them at eUT for long long time.
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Oct 5 2017, 11:33 PM)
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Lai, lai, you come teach me....

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Ponzi 2 in this thread is CIMB-PRINCIPAL ASIA PACIFIC DYNAMIC INCOME FUND - MYR, not Dynamic Growth.
CIMB-PRINCIPAL ASIA PACIFIC DYNAMIC Growth FUND is different fund under CIMB, with <3 years history.

This post has been edited by i1899: Oct 5 2017, 11:44 PM
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post Oct 13 2017, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(walkman660 @ Oct 13 2017, 05:32 PM)
https://ufile.io/cco0j

anyone need simple version of excel file can download from the link above , pm me if have any doubt
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Thanks for sharing. Highly appreciated, especially for the Managed Portfolio.

Have you updated IRR of managed portfolio today?
If yes, then, IRR of my DIY 60-40 portfolio (17.3%, counted from 01/01/17) is still higher than Managed Portfolio IRR (13.1%, counted from 13/06/17). But, i think it is worth to pay the difference for more time for other things.

I would like to understand more about managed portfolio before jump in. Appreciated if you can sharing this kind of info.
1. Normally, how many switching were performed in a month.
2. The switching is for re-balancing (bond to Equity/ equity to bond) or restructure (Global EQ to Global EQ of other fund house)?



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post Oct 23 2017, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Oct 23 2017, 09:29 PM)
How long does it take to receive money for selling a fund? I know it says T+4, but any chance it comes in earlier? I submit application at 1pm Monday, I assume by Friday it should be settled? Will they bank in direct to my bank account? Will that take an additional day?

Long story short, submitted a sell request on Monday 1pm, when should I receive the redeemed funds in my bank account?
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When u submit sale order, u ll receive a mail titled 'sale of unit trust xxx', it shows u the settlement date.
U will recive the money on the settlement date.
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post Oct 23 2017, 11:05 PM

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post Oct 24 2017, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(Kokman @ Oct 24 2017, 08:37 PM)
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You can use this CNBC world heat map to get a feel of how your broadly diversified equity portfolio is moving now.
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This one nice, thanks for sharing.

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