Quick price grab from viewnet, c-zone, jayacom;
Ryzen 3 1200 - 499~519
Ryzen 3 1300x - 599

They're all 4core 4threads. They all overclock (unlocked). I'd put it in a cheap B350 mobo.

I agree but I also think the Ryzen 3s only really shine once overclocked.
Can't clearly recall but have to revisit some benchmarks showing performance relative to i3 and i5.

If I were you I'd look at it from core count/performance/price perspective. Your investment for a R5 1600 processor and a B350 or even X370 motherboard is substantially lower than 8700K + Z370 combo. You still get 6 cores and 12 threads, very very decent multi-threaded performance and alright single-threaded. You lose out at single-threaded performance to the 8700K. Weigh the pros and cons. In terms of gaming, you'll see a larger fps difference when gaming at 1080p resolution. If you're gaming at 1440p and beyond, the difference is so negligible its not worth mentioning as it will be more GPU bound rather than CPU bound. I think I recall seeing benchmarks where a 3.9~4.0ghz clocked R5 1600 is doing almost as good as a 4.6~4.7ghz clocked 7700K at 1440p gaming (and many would say a 8700K is basically a 7700K with extra 2 cores and 4 threads). Please do correct me if I'm stating anything incorrectly here, long day.

Yes correct.

Check your intended purchase motherboard's memory QVL. Ideally because of the Infinity Fabric and how it works, you want to run your ram at between 3000 and higher.

However, even memory not on the mobo's QVL can run at rated speeds. At current time, Ryzen still favours RAM kits that come with Samsung B-die memory chips. These has been known to easily clock at 3200 and even higher (check out the Ryzen Overclocking thread on the forums), we have successfully oc/post at 3333 and 3466 speeds.

CPU OC only available on B350 and X370 mobos bro
If don't need sli/crossfire, and can make do with some less USB connectivity on the back I/O panel, then B350 is fine.

I think I've seen some good solid reviews on the B350 MSI Tomahawk but the M2 slot placement and top-facing SATA connectors a bit slack.
B350 ASUS ROG Strix imho best looking B350 ATX board.

Even RAM modules that use Samsung B-die that works great mostly only running at rated speed when its 8gb x 2 module.
Mileage will vary when its 16gb x 2 module or 8gb x 4 module (ie your RAM will still run but maybe not at rated speed, my 3466c16 Samsung B kit runs great when its 8gb x 2, when I bought an extra kit to run 4 module, max I managed to get it at was 2666).



This post has been edited by raydenex: Sep 29 2017, 03:18 AM

If based on your mobo QVL, it does not list that it officially supports 2 sticks of 32gb for a total of 64gb.
However since you already have those sticks of RAM, just put it in la?!! Worst case scenario PC doesn't boot.

This post has been edited by raydenex: Oct 3 2017, 05:21 PM

This is the best advise. With a few friends following suite after me and moving to Ryzen in past 1-2 months, that's the constant. I point them to the costlier Samsung B-die RAM kits (ie Vengeance RGB 3466C16 kit, Flare-X 3200C14 kit etc) for the ones who want uncompromising RAM for their Ryzen or to the cheaper 2400 kits for the ones who focus more on keeping to their budgets. Affordability is key. You don't want to break the bank unnecessarily.

Imagine Ryzens that can clock to 4.5~4.8ghz +/-
It's already doing more than decent at the usual 3.8/3.9 most people able to get, vs 4.5~5.0ghz 7700k systems.
I'd say Ryzen IPC is competitive, only currently lacking in clock speed. The fact that AM4 will be viable for next two zen iterations was one of the deciding factors for me.

That's my plan. Switch to 12nm Ryzen 7 next year on my existing Crosshair VI Hero. Then garage sale my current R7 1700, plenty of people with R5 or R3's now would snag it.

A 600~650w 80+ Silver or Gold rated perhaps? Up your budget to within 350~400 for a PSU that is more dependable and decent.

Scenario : AMD somehow falls way behind again
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It is the year 2027..
Intel releases the 18700K mainstream platform 'flagship'..
6 core 12 thread, again.

God help us, no thanks. So yes. I won't take away from Intel the fact that the 8700K is a hell of a processor. But I'll reiterate the following;

1. AM4 platform commitment, allowing me to drop in a Zen+ 12nm in 2018 and the next iteration of Zen in 2019 is a major selling point to me. Over the next 2-3 years the only changes on mobo features/design that would make me change a board as well would be DDR5 memory support and PCIE 4.0, and I like that it'll be an option rather than a requirement.

2. The success of Zen architecture is what made Intel even try to be competitive again. Regardless of which camp we're from the logical consumer thing to do is to root for both. God forbid we see 4c8t mainstream flagship 10 years from now, at least now the future for Intel mainstream platform flagship is minimum 6c12t and we have Zen to thank for that. If the next 2 Zen iterations are as competitive as Summit Ridge, you might see the 9700K or 10700K mainstream flagship being 8c16t too We all win. The way things were going before Zen, your 8700K would have also been 4c8t with maybe a 10% IPC improvement over the 7700K and about the same clock speeds. And knowing Intel, you would have STILL had to change new motherboard

This post has been edited by raydenex: Oct 17 2017, 08:23 AM

B350 can OC.

ALL ryzens are unlocked = can OC.

You just need a motherboard with either x370 or b350 chipset.

Yes can.

There was no need of any unlocking for these.. the affected 1600 and 1600x processors with batch number 1736PGT were pretty much Ryzen 7's in Ryzen 5 clothing

Most BIOS across different Ryzen motherboards at this stage would be able to run 3000-rated DDR4 kits at dohp/xmp profiles, or 2933/2800/etc via manual settings. I still recommend RAM kits with Samsung B-die for best result.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/62vp2...onfusion_eg_on/

Lots of AIO coolers to choose from, 120 radiator, 240 radiator etc.
If air cooler, hyper 212 is a good budget one. Add a little bit more can get cryorig H7 which performs better also.

Easy enough I suppose, you can youtube some Cryorig H7 review/installation videos.

I'd use either one of these ;

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-X370-I-GAMING/
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-B350-I-GAMING/

both were announced only last month so hopefully land here soon.