i'll need to reset the CPU block again then. good experience to understand the behavior of this new build.
one thing i regret. normal reservoir > water distribution block 

resetting bios to default now has a much normal behavior. but i agree my  temp has def smth wrong there.
i read the ppt max is also 127 on tristan, unless i read it wrong?

Shoot, I used PEA size on 5950x paired with Dark Rock Pro 4. How did you apply it? Cross?

lol am I the only guy spreading his paste in a very thin layer manually before slapping the block on?! or do you all have extremely convex or concave heatspreaders?

More is better than less right? 

revert to 3401 no longer hit 90C during steam/origin download. 
thanks alot to all sifu that gave advice as well. now i really need to open up as temp is not to my liking or ryzen 5900X is just that hot/warm even under water 70C+ is a norm??

all 3 methods ok je…janji can cover the die area.



simplest and cleanest way still center 1 drop

Thanks! Try using the Ram Turbo n see what changes.
https://zentimings.protonrom.com/ use this to check.

So worthwhile upgrades would be 1) a cheap B550 board and 2) a better cooler.
Potentially a 3) new RAM Kit for some who need a higher capacity/speed(depending on the IC on your current kit)
Still fine value right now with that 3070 (with a nice 12 pin connector btw)

I've got a B550M A-PRO here which I got with a bundle, which I might use for a Cezanne that will probably be running somewhere between 35-65W PPT and will be cooled by a Fuma 2.
Can't wait to try that then. Let's see how high I can push RAM on that shitty board ... endgame on RL already and bored.

Will do, I hope early August AMD MY will release them in time. Will be interesting to see how well cheap boards work with it n not a 1k myr board like the B550i Strix that I used last time (great board btw).
Latency should be (well?) below 50ns. But I doubt this will absorb the cache disadvantage.

When you guys are talking about temps, which monitor are you looking at?
There's a big discrepancy between Ryzen Master and HWinfo, at least 6-7C, and I'm not sure which is more accurate.

Gaming temps at 85C (HWinfo reading) on my 5900X are kinda worrying me, not sure if I need a better cooler.

Thanks for the tips and feedback!
I'm currently running an Arctic Freezer 34 with push/pull fans in a Meshify C case.
Thanks to the great advice in this thread, I've got the 5900X tuned with PBO, CO -25 on most cores, Auto OC +200 and stock power limits.
I'm pretty sure I'm bouncing off the 90C thermal limit, as max temps are 89.9C.

I've been struggling to decide between a Noctua D15S + additional 120mm fan (case clearance issues) or a 240mm top-mounted AIO, because that's all I room for.

Which would give better overall cooling performance in a mesh case?

For those who know Mandarin, 5900X delided by China Youtuber, temp improvement after delided not impressive.

Video guy was expecting better results than der8auer's results (he still used the IHS), ended up just matching it after all that effort. Ouch.

Then again, Ryzen CPUs that use solder since the first gen was always proven to be not worth the delid effort, no surprise it's not any different now.

5600X > 5600G. Explains the lower cost to the main Zen3 CPU.

Also, as a comparison with the 11400, 5600G has a faster GPU but performs worse overall when using a discrete card. It doesn't make it a worthy buy for gaming systems where folks are holding on to integrated graphics while waiting for RTX prices to drop.

Renoir isn't even that competitive in gaming benchmarks versus Zen2 desktop CPUs.

My thoughts - the fat L3 cache on the 5600X makes most of the difference in gaming.

To be fair though if you need to game while waiting for a proper GPU, the 5600G isn't too bad, and depending on the motherboard you can move to a proper Zen 3 chip like the 5600X or the 5800X in the future with a BIOS update and a CPU swap (along with a cooler upgrade)

If we are lucky enough we might even see the big cached Zen3s to be the last line of CPUs for the AM4 platform

While the 11400 is good, the somewhat limited upgradeability and the fact that you need a decent B560 (which isn't cheap by any means compared to B550) just to make proper use of the chip itself (otherwise you'll end up getting 30% less performance) is going to sway some people away from Rocket Lake

It's fine though if someone isn't going to upgrade their systems for a long time

Thats what i thought too.
What AIO you recommend that have RGB sync?

Noticed that those Asus, Msi, Gigabye AIO all very expensive. Do they really good for the price or just branding? 😅😅

Lian Li Galahad 360-X ARGB 360MM
ID-Cooling Zoomflow 360X ARGB
Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML360R RGB

Seems like NZXT and Corsair dont support motherboard ARGB Sync, so I only can choose from the 3 above. 

man i wanted to get Ryzen, was hyped when it first announced but waited pass Zen 1 and Zen 2 for more stable Zen+ platform. but then 3600 price rose to RM900+ and it was hard to get these with forced motherboard bundles, maybe easier now idk. B550 motherboards (good ones) is also RM600+, not that far off from a comparable B560 with good VRMs/features.

a lot of folks on B450 also ended up upgrading to B550 anyway due to bundled mobo, better B550 features / VRM and stability (no reason not to since bundled), that would defeat the purpose of same socket upgradability if you have to rebuy motherboard or change motherboard.

some people don't mind, but it makes me uncomfortable to buy tray AMD CPUs (and rely on seller for warranty instead of AMD) or used ones since pins can be so easily bent and fixed by previous user or damaged during shipping leading to possible random instability one day, a pain to troubleshoot when you are in the middle of something.

From the link

will try this.

wtf, from constant 80C to 88C in BFV, this 1% drop instantly coz it to stabilize at 60C in the same game with same settings  :confused:

This one come with Hyper M.2 x16 Gen 4 Card which can house additional 4 M.2 drive, so basically solve my concern.

yea…the pcie config we discussed before…not sure is in this thread or nvidia thread. those who are interested can find back.

i saw some ppl reported the usb disconnected intermittently after raise the flck above 1900.

I've tried every FCLK strap from 1600mhz to 2000mhz over the last 6 months on Zen 3, not a single time USB has dropped. Don't only read the bad news, because the bad news are always the ones that make the most noise.

Yes this is normal practice, no need to pray, even my Giga Aorus Master on Intel platform did that so is not AMD only.