My 5900X with 29C ambient. Nothing running on the background.

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Youtube now only use VP9/AV1, older GPU without VP9 hardware assisted GPU decoding are GGed, cpu does all the work and toasty warm~~~

the only fix is force youtube streaming in AVC/H264 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/h264ify/
no more noisy fan noise accompany you after that lol

power plan at high performance mode?

Is that your workstation or gaming pc? Try to reduce the amount of background process, don't let too much game client running on background.
Window 10 optimization or maybe the cpu scheduler need another fix, it's a shitty os anyway

I tried to use hwinfo, it is just sucking the CPU power only polling the data every 2 second?...
Anyway unless Ryzen Master is bugged , my CPU only use 10w + 8w SoC, and running at 37c at idle. your reply become increasingly biased because you had bad experience with AMD.

AMD is way much smaller company compare to Intel, software wise much improvement is needed, and they are still hiring Linux software engineers, GPU department they are pretty well done already.
Also i work as lab instrument tester, i deal with Windows 10 everyday, occasionally linux machine too,
for me Windows 10 stability is a nightmare and slow as snail,
1. instrument that running linux is much more robust than Windows, i dont have to shutdown the linux powered instrument, sudden power loss on it has zero impact, while Windows counterpart will greet you with bluescreen, the only way to access it is reinstall Windows.
2. Windows defender realtime scanning, you can only turn if off temporary, the antimalware scanner will run everytime you execute some program.
i mean, the program does not even cache the scanned executable nor memorize the program im running everyday, i can make a coffee and back to my cell in time while i waiting the testing program ready to be used,
The windows antimalware scanner is just another power virus to me.
3. boot up time is another win for Linux, while a watered down Windows 10, a paid OS is booting 3 time slower on same hardware.

Mission critical OS dont use Windows servers, nobody want to use Windows on a life support instrument anyway.

thx man, nice info there, it expand my radius of option here. i nvr heard of this brand name, thinking want to go for the LED for "presentation"
and plus is this silicon brand ok? thinking want to go for 970 evo.

Earlier, there's much discussion on Ryzen's idle voltage. I just saw this video. Ryzen was supposed to idle or lower load at highest voltage?
From 13:05 minutes

omg its not RYZEN idle. its how all cpu are

loadline loadline loadline

high vcore idle > temp is false
its current.

1amp 0.8v vs 1amp 1.4v

not gonna be 29c vs 45c ya.

Bonchi, what's your new intel's idle ya? Curious, if say just open chrome and spotify in background or maybe something else.

ANyone got any idea why my 5600x randomly BLUE screen when on MS Teams?

Never happened on Google Meet ; when gaming (4-5 hrs direct)

But when on MS Teams.. sometimes in less than half hour.. crashed..blue screen

The only O/C is RAM from 3200 to 3600.. but if really RAM .. why other program doesnt crash?

you'd be surprised to see how well their cool&quiet, cstates, etc. working once you slot a renoir or probably cezanne into your board.
but since those are plagued by low cache this is also no solution (apart from the availability)

yeah I think so, the io die seems to be the main factor. the monolithic renoir really not too bad. can build a massively energy efficient system with that.
I've seen ppl having idle system! draw of sub 10W with a pico psu and renoir.

Price still high... Maybe better wait it to go down first.

Hi guys, has anyone purchased a tray processor before? First time buying tray processors for cost saving. I Can't test it out yet as I'm waiting for the gpu.. Hopefully it's all fine..

The other option would be top up rm200 and get the 3600x as the retailer is out of 3600 chips..

Rocket lake coming. Ryzen demand drop, price also will drop.

Some folks here had their points on what was wrong with AMD beginning with Zen 2 and now Zen 3. Bonchi and gang is not wrong for what they raised. But you keep harping on it over and over and over again, bitter A F, it gets tiring for the rest of us. You throw shade at the AMD fanboys, defending AMD blindly. But your constant hating has put you on the other extreme end of that spectrum now.

Was I being too optimistic to expect you guys to graciously accept someone pointing out that the constant banging on AMD has gone a little too far here? Your points are all valid, and most, if not all people here digested it many many pages ago. There is really no need to keep throwing shade.

I'm not speaking in response to that. I have no issue with that at all. That's between you and whoever it was you're squabbling with.

Heck I use a 5800x myself. What 5900x master race? I'm making a general statement in this thread, banging on AMD over and over is not different than the fanboys who blindly defend AMD.

That's equally as bad, just on different ends of the spectrum. The point has been driven to everyone. Don't have to take opportunity once or twice every Thread page to insert a negative comment towards AMD, how you moved on to Intel and life is great now, how AMD this, how AMD that. Many people see it. We don't speak up and now when someone does, don't get triggered please. Just cut it out already. Your points were ALL VALID. Can you not see I am agreeing with you, Targon, whoever else on your camp. I am. You guys just have to ease up on the negativity towards AMD already. We get it. We do. Chill out lah.

When I finally posted just now its my general comment on all the past hate many pages back, that went on for quite a bit. You said it yourself, it was rather harsh. I'm happy you've found peace with your i5 10400 now on a stable that meets your standards platform. I am genuinely glad you don't face issues anymore. However I would like to just kindly remind us all, there would be no 6c12t i5 if it weren't for AMD. Nor a 8c16t i7. i9 would be HEDT segment only. As much as we MUST raise issues when AMD falters, we must also give credit where credit is due. Peace.

CPU need a mobo, it's not simply can just switch to Intel unless building a new rig. If someone buying CPU and mobo I also advice to get Intel since they now give same performance as AMD and price are not marked up.

I failed to see how I am the one that butt hurt when it's you that post hateful message about AMD buyers.

Would love to get my hands on a Renoir as well. Hopefully we see some new retail APUs out in near future.