Should've done this right from the start instead of resorting to cloak and dagger BS with the userbase. Their rep is sullied now.

Asus responds!
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-resp...ound-am5-issues

But only sold in stores in US

Starfield bundle:
https://www.amd.com/en/promotions/starfield-bundle

Why no Malaysia?

Only gaming really as my work is not that performance dependent. I game on a 4K TV (with DLSS) with a 3070, 16GB RAM and a 650W PSU.  Planning to buy for Starfield but will also likely use it for Spiderman and Diablo.

Budget wise I can afford the 5800x3d + a cooler like AK600, but 'worthiness' also matters to me la since the price is 3x the 5600.

You can try these as well.
https://shopee.com.my/search?keyword=lga%201700%20scythe

amazing ASRock A620M Pro RS. hope it will reach malaysia.
https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/A620M%20Pro%20RS/index.asp
goldfries

Yes correct, but seriously it's only the CPU and TCO la.

AM5 board and DDR5 are available at good price point already but TCO .............

Exactly like your 2nd point - 6 cores 12 threads for RM 1K? 8 core 12 threads for RM 1.5k?

People see that and factoring the price of other stuff like MB and DDR5, in the end most people who game would go on with combo like 5600 (6/12) / 5700X (8/16), get a good used B450 / B550 MB and with DDR4 prices so low now.

Less spent on CPU / MB / DDR can channel to higher spec graphics card.

I'm thinking to get something like 5800X3D but will it be safe to use Scythe Mugen 5 Rev. B to cool this CPU? I mean it must be one hot CPU and air cooler may not be enough for this.

I see, so it seems I need to do a push-pull configuration to increase my cooler's performance. Apart from that, getting something like 5700X might be a viable option since it has lower TDP.

Wah no one talking about the new threadripper 7000 HEDT??

Qualcomm is come for x86 laptop, if they can improve the realtime x86 to arm64 translation performance in the future, there will be no more Intel and duopoly
https://www.theverge.com/24107331/qualcomm-...n-windows-games

they need a push, like promote from big game studio Cognoverse, their native x86 anticheat of course wont work, rewrite kernel driver and native launcher and binary should not be an issue for them
the same for steam deck, they push the gaming on linux rather relies on windows, the push from valve will make the linux gaming become viable in future for casual user.

traditional x86 is good because less compatibility issue like driver and software, but the hardware duopoly from amd and intel performance progression is slow as heck, Qualcomm need to kick them form the high horse.

a few % of slowdown probably unnoticeable for casual user, as if we have time to measure fps and loading time difference
we only want affordable hardware and ease of use to play.

X86 has many legacy stuff they keep in silicon to ensure the old software wont break but it come with a cost, power consumption
it's growing too complex and many of the software didnt fully utilize the cpu, like those instructions set, they add a new every new architecture released,

like why many of the game and software you run max ghz and it runs like a space heater, but performance still shit because part of "brain" did not get used, what they use is just raw power. the smart part of the cpu just take a back seat.

and to make sure the software run at optimal performance you have to optimize your software, preferably using the instruction set that available in the latest CPU,
sounds like easy? noooo
https://www.amd.com/en/search/documentation...factor=Desktops
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/dev.../intel-sdm.html

those are the pdfs they need to read if the game developer want their game runs with butterlysmooth FPS while no need top end hardware, so why many newly released games runs like dogshit? the upper management just want the game faster out, means the game devs has less time to optimize,
collect money first, release patch later, remember cyberpunk 2077?

cpu developer guide arent just the stuff they need to understand, there are SDK for graphic renderer/game engine, Directx 12, Vulkan, then you want more platform support? IOS, Android then Playstation...

newer cpu architecture like RISC-V and ARM surely will replace the archaic x86 if they could not keep up with the performance.

My first build after 20 years. My last build was in the Athlon AYHJA & swiftech era
Ryzen 7600 non-X (rm8xx)
Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE (rm12x)
Thermalright TL-S12 fans
AsRock B650 Pro RS (rm9xx)
Acer Predator Pallas II 6000 2x16 (rm4xx)
Kingston KC3000 1TB (rm2xx)
Corsair 4000D (rm300)
FSP Hydro-G 750W Full Modular (rm4xx)

all items were purchased online (shopee) with discounts during sales.

only part missing is the GPU.. might go with either 7900 GRE/4070 Super/4070 Ti Super.

initially planned to go for 7800X3D, but Ryzen 9000 is just around the corner so decided to shave about RM700 and will use it on a better gpu instead. 7600 is fast enough for gaming.

PC boots up fast and fine out of the box, mostly default settings except for EXPO on RAM (will optimize later).
My only regret is I didn't buy 2TB KC3000 when the price was like RM400++

Gutted that ATX3.1 psu appeared a few days after I got the FSP, but no biggie since FSP bundled in 12vhpwr native cable.
So why AM5?
this rig is intended for 90% gaming. prices after discount are not much diff compared to AM4 build. good efficiency too.
i have a quadro & i7 workstation for works, so i wanted something new and different.

i do believe deals for 2TB will come (and go) haha.

on gpu, i'm ok to spend around rm4k. i don't build pc so often so looking for a good gpu with long warranty. also eyeing miniLED 1440p moniter in the future

deals will come and go. some shops will give good discount vouchers. i'm a bargain hunter lol.

the 7900 XT is tasty, but radeon pricing in malaysia is cacat one.. cheapest (with discount) i saw is around 4.1k for nitro+ vapor (not Pulse!). can get 4070 ti super lower than that.