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Andrewtst
post Nov 26 2020, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Nov 26 2020, 09:14 AM)
I goes vertical GPU purely for looks  biggrin.gif 
ID cooling zoomflow 360 AIO water cooler
I replaced the fans with ID cooling fans also.

I think casing ( lian li O11 dynamic ) helps also, 6 total fans exhaust.
Room temperature 24" only but case placement have cold air flowing towards it.
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Yup very nice thus I ask, haha!
Andrewtst
post Nov 30 2020, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(nodeffect @ Nov 30 2020, 12:05 AM)
do u guys know when will the ryzen 5000 series out in Malaysia.?
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Already out but mostly shop now selling bundle with PC instead of processor itself only.

Quite some Lowyat members here already using it.

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post Dec 5 2020, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(Xirality @ Dec 5 2020, 05:44 PM)
This lack of stock issue makes me considering 5950X as the final option
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QUOTE(nill @ Dec 5 2020, 06:06 PM)
Does 5950x exists?
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I think 5950X event difficult to get.
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post Dec 19 2020, 09:57 AM

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I am using AMD Ryzen 9 5900X, with Gigabyte X570 AORUS Elite WIFI MB. Memory is HyperX FURY DDR4 RGB and I also facing random crash previously when I put my system idle. I know something is happen as my Edge browser open tab is crash. I did not overclock my system except the RAM XMP is on.

So far it is ok now after update / do following.
  • Bios update, now in latest F31o
  • Disable Fast reboot (I don't see the needs as I cannot feel the differences at all in this new machine, probably already too fast to notice).
  • EasyTune app update, I think this had nothing to do with the crash but at least now this is working, in previous version I cannot open as it keep showing my CPU is not support overclock. lol. I just want all apps able to open, I did not use it capability of overclock. Haha!
  • RGBFusion app update, finally the RAM RGB is function in proper when XMP is enable.
  • Disable Internal onboard Sound - I not sure this onboard sound is one of the culprit or not, but I do face before the system crash and restart when I set monitor auto sleep. Now using SoundBlaster AE-9 and never face this issue anymore. I not plan to enable back to test as I no need it anymore.
I think Gigabyte apps is quite buggy and it did not solved it before release a new product (not so new also that motherboard) to market.

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post Dec 19 2020, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(nrw @ Dec 19 2020, 12:21 PM)
Gigabyte wink.gif
Go disable C-States in your BIOS to prevent specific idle states of your CPU.
Fast Reboot and Internal Sound you can enable back, these are just symptoms. Easy Tune I would not use but that's up to you.

If you still have crashes in idle after C-States are disabled use this: https://zentimings.protonrom.com/ and post a screenshot here.
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Oh! Thanks a lot, I will check it out the C-States. Appreciate much. smile.gif
I will try again the Fast Reboot.

For on board sound I not plan to turn on back anymore since I won't use it anymore.

Easy Tune I not using, just highlight until this Dec update it just working for 5000 series CPU.
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post Dec 19 2020, 12:56 PM

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nrw Just change C-States from Auto to Disable and turn on Fast boot, will monitor now, hope this solved the idle crash issue. smile.gif

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post Dec 19 2020, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Dec 19 2020, 01:26 PM)
What is your XMP RAM speed?
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I use profile 1 and it is around 3200 Mhz and set it at Bios.
Before this I disable XMP but also same facing idle crash issue.

Below is information from Aorus EasyTune.

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post Dec 19 2020, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Dec 19 2020, 02:11 PM)
Uninstall all Gigabyte software. They could cause stability issues.
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Oh, but none is running at background, I think should be ok. I choose all not auto run when PC start except RGBFusion as that one I need it.

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post Dec 19 2020, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(Jedi @ Dec 19 2020, 05:05 PM)
Hehehehe. I saw u bought same monitor as me left review on shopee. Hehehehe. Hope u like your system. Did the 3080 handle UW version of CP well with dlss and rtx full ultra? I am considering if UW texture 3080 cant handle..... Go higher
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Haha! oh is it, later I go check check.

CP can still handle very well with UW version of CP with dlss and RTX Full Ultra up to Psycho preset. Not 100fps but very playable 60 to 70 fps.

But if 4K then not very well.
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post Dec 19 2020, 05:26 PM

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sign0006.gif Jedi You bought on 2020-07-31 right? Haha! I haven't check my manufacture date yet. Haha!
How much you bought that time?

Actually your comment with photo is one of the reason I decide to purchase from them, second reason is that seller is mentioned at LG Malaysia website as well.

I love the seller, very responsive and great packaging and fast delivery.

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post Dec 19 2020, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(Jedi @ Dec 19 2020, 05:46 PM)
I bought 4.9k with free gifts rog mouse and rog broad mouse pad. After that they raise price d.. Gt a few lyn forumers pm me and then i recommend them and it sold out after 24 hrs i put my review here on monitor thread (4 units) thats why
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Wow! Lucky you all, free mouse some more, awesome!

But I no regret getting this monitor, it is the best monitor I ever own. smile.gif
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post Dec 20 2020, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(Jedi @ Dec 20 2020, 04:30 PM)
compared with the new asus PG 329q 175Hz 32 inch 1440p which sells at RM 5199 yes it is!
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Asus normally is out from my target, Asus often selling over price. Haha!

and LG is my preferable brand for Display. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 20 2020, 09:05 PM

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I think I had fixed the crash issue. the culprit is the RAM setting.
The crash even happen when I play 4K HDR movie and enlarge it using MPV player.

Before in XMP profile 1 Auto detect value.
tCL - 16
tRCD - 18
tRP - 18
tRAS - 36
tRC - 74

After all set manually but change value of tRC.
tCL - 16
tRCD - 18
tRP - 18
tRAS - 36
tRC - 56

I hope this is correct value and no more crash, haizz...

In between anyone using value generate from DRAM Calculation for Ryzen? The value is very far different, thus I didn't try.
I Google around, some said not recommended, thus I didn't try also. I don't want later cannot boot and need clear CMOS.

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post Dec 20 2020, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(Cold|Drawn @ Dec 20 2020, 09:16 PM)
tried memtest86 see if it generates any error?
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Completed the test. So far so good, touch wood. biggrin.gif

Thanks for this little memory test tools. smile.gif

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post Dec 20 2020, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(nrw @ Dec 20 2020, 11:16 PM)
even 3200c14 a waste of money if you don't oc properly

Andrewtst sorry to disappoint you but lowering tRC surely wasn't the culprit. more likely a setting tied to XMP itself. But as it is working now, be happy  laugh.gif
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As long it wont crash and not impact much of the performance. I am ok.

So far seems ok. biggrin.gif

Just please no more crashing for no reason. smile.gif
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post Dec 21 2020, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Dec 21 2020, 12:20 AM)
Hmmm . . . . since I start my holiday now, will try see if I can solve my issue also. My TridentZ Neo 3600 not stable at all, and IIRC I only tested A-XMP profile.
Maybe I'll replicate the timing of A-XMP manually  hmm.gif
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Replicate XMP from auto to manual do solve the issue for me. I Google around and this was some Reddit member solution.

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post Dec 21 2020, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Dec 21 2020, 08:01 AM)
what's the advantage of X570 over cheaper B550 when only 1 PCI-E x16 and 1 PCI-E M.2 is available? laugh.gif
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Aorus Pro is 2x PCI-E M.2
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post Dec 21 2020, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Dec 21 2020, 08:15 AM)
Sorry bro, baru nampak.

underneath Cooler is 2 slots, not 1.....  sweat.gif
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Haha yaya, it is ok. 😊
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post Dec 26 2020, 01:24 PM

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I think I should consider very lucky.

I manage to grab last unit of Ryzen 9 5900X at price lowered little than MSRP at RM 2,450.00 on 13 Nov 2020.

Of course need to bundle with full set, this time was ok to me as I need buy new PC.

Future proof or not is not that important to me as I never change my CPU before, the only change is added more RAM or change GPU.

The time when need to change CPU time is already a time for build new PC. That is probably another 5 years thing.

Previously I said my PC crash issue, I change RAM setting still not 100% solve.

Now I can ensure it is software issue, I use MPV player at my old laptop and never had issue crash when playing 4K HDR content to SDR, but it keep crashing and PC restart when playing 4K HDR in HDR. After more test by off my windows HDR, no more crashing issue.

Later I try others player in HDR play in HDR and no issue. So that playback crash system is MPV player issue.

I had uninstall the association with MPV and remove entirely the application.

Now using JRiver Media center. I love this apps as easier to get best quality setting of MadVR. Awesome quality and playback was freaking smooth.

Another alternative is VLC Player.

MPC-HC MPC-BP is a great choice for people prefer manually tunes MadVR.

Important no more of restart issue.

https://jriver.com/

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post Dec 26 2020, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Dec 26 2020, 01:41 PM)
It’s not software issue. It is the ryzen issue. Software are written base on x86 instruction set that the cpu should support entirely. Same goes to r3000 series where it had a missing rng causing certain linux distro not able to run on ryzens. Till today there’s tonnes of this sort lf small issues that makes a ryzen platform unstable...

This is kinda like a Car wont start when you pump shell’s ron95 but no issues with petronas ron95. lolol.
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Because I test others player no issue, include Windows 10 media player, VLC Player, J River Media Center, and MPC-HC player, all instant switch to HDR, instant switch within Windows and full screen, instant play and no crash and no windows restart.

But this only happen in MPV player where HDR movie stuck during full screen switching, sometimes it will make my pc restart. The MPV Player not facing such issue when playback in SDR include HDR movie convert to SDR output. I can't test at my laptop as my laptop GPU not support HDR output to HDR monitor

So I conclude this is software bugs also as none of others player I test had this issue. Total 5 player test, only 1 player crash my PC.

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