Price won’t drop already. That’s kind of the new revised MSRP.

with so many anti intel and rise of ryzen fanboys... you think demand will drop? so many are willing to wait and pay for 5600X eventho it cost more than a 10700 (and generally slower because of fewer cores). 

kena cucuk by scalpers until longgar also still willing to pay for AMD Brand and hype matters nowadays.

The thing is, it's no longer the crown in price to performance anymore and the hate for intel is more apparent to the point that many people are lead to pay more for less performance or waited for months due to stock shortage and even succumb to scalpers, even though there is a much better option.

And did you ever see any of my recent post complaining about the AMD bugs anymore? no right? In fact has been more constructive at providing tips on how I solved my AMD issues rather than praising AMD as the perfect system like all these fanboys. (Which is why i left AMD cuz im sick of these fanboys "AMD is perfect, i got no issues" not giving any troubleshooting advise.... in fact i got most of the working solution from nrw and ctskl who doesnt worship AMD)  like with john's, about working with power settings and solving his sudden whea which is worth discussing.

Right now im just stating facts that price will not drop so i am advising the forumer to go ahead with the 5800x because he could get it right now instead of waiting dunno till when for a 5900x to get cheaper. And this xboxx fella butt hurt.

with so many anti intel and rise of ryzen fanboys... you think demand will drop? so many are willing to wait and pay for 5600X eventho it cost more than a 10700 (and generally slower because of fewer cores). 

kena cucuk by scalpers until longgar also still willing to pay for AMD Brand and hype matters nowadays.

Did i tell him to buy intel? I was hinting him to go for 5800x  instead of 5900x because 5900x will never drop down to his budget. Even malaysia's original msrp is out of his budget, so where is this hateful message?. 

Butt hurt then butt hurt la. So butt hurt until instantly assume Im telling the forumer to go for intel and say im spreading AMD hate lmao.

Intel is always widely available, price slashed but it is still not being sold, why? mainly due to the false reputation of "running hot and power hungry" and like a very famous guy said, waste of sand.

AMD fanboys and scalpers have successfully brainwash everyone.. to the point so many are paying up to 1.6k for a 5600x even as a full bundle set in viewnet/czone... while the 10900F is rm 1.5k but still mostly sitting there.

That's the fact you have to live with in this AMD dominated era. Best not to give false hope and advices like price and demand will drop. Even more so on 5900x which doesnt have an immediate competition.

can advise where should I start tweaking with? currently my 5800x with custom waterloop dual 360 rads idle at 50C+

For fans, just set an update delay like 2-5 seconds in the bios. As the temps usually spikes and drop very quickly, so this delay will work the curve a little smoother.

Also make sure c-state is not disabled if you want lower idles.

checked it's active, issue is my Unifans having drivers issue so the pwm not working, now fixed at 1570rpm

Each bios got this feature. Take msi and asus for example:

Step up and step down time is that delay so put a value long enough so the fan speed will react slower to the temp changes.. then wont keep ramping up and down aggressively.

Will try it later on..
I think already over tighten. Scared might "cracked" the mounting 
Currently using the PBO, need to tune abit since the temp going and down but not much. Still satisfied with slight decrease temp
Previously using intel so same using 360 aio and the temp much lower than the AMD. Less than 70 deg. Just abit weird i thought it getting better when switching to 5800x

Just the temp makes me "nervous" when seeing it..haha

Just a quick question, does Zen2 3950x on latest win10 20H2 still require the "Ryzen Balanced Power Plan"?

Or I can just simply use the Win10 default "Balanced"?

Doesn't seem to have any difference between those two plans.
Sure, the ancient news/threads around the internet mentioned the 1ms frequency ramping when "Ryzen B.P.P." is used, but I saw the same when Win10 default "Balanced"  is selected as well via HWINFO graph.

Anyone can verify?

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-shows...ing-improvement

Possible Zen 3+ (with huge 3D stacked L3 cache) to fight Alder Lake?

I also don't know or understand how FLAC causes your system to boost all out 4ghz, 88w PPT and melting itself at 80c lol. 

Here is my typical usage when I'm using the PC, 9 tabs, split between Chrome and FF, FLAC playing on musicbee, mining from GPU -

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50c idle is spot on. But as you can see, idle power on CPU and SOC isn't THAT bad.
No special power plan, just using Windows balanced default.

*EDIT - someone may or may not be streaming from my Plex server also which is causing the spike in max temps.

It doesn't look like you're pushing the SoC that much with your RAM speeds. I see higher SoC power usage on my 5800X using RAM at 3733 speeds and 1:1 IF clock, even at idle. Even Rocket Lake capped at 65W can show a disparity when running Gear 1 speeds at 3200+ due to power pulled away from the cores.

Ryzen likes faster RAM though

in term of sound? no difference vs foobar2k or musicbee. (i don't want to include placebo factor )

i recommend it just because easy to setup, one click to select WASAPI or ASIO (if your sound card or dac got such driver) output and auto disable EQ and bypass in-app volume control when select those output.

i also recommend musicbee more than foobar2k because musicbee is simple and easy too.

you can just try it…it's free.

have you tried musicbee?

Different people have different tastes, I had one point using just MPlayer with batch file as front-end to play my music.
MPlayer doesn't have graphical interface and I prefer to compile the program myself 🤔😹

create  your own themes with these 3: columns_UI, el_playlist, wsh panel mod. Can go online copy paste themes and modify and eventually you will know how to configure one haha last time deviantart alot.


mine I made it pretty lightweight. Only uses 6mb ram when it's not buffering any song files.

Mine..lol

will try this.

wtf, from constant 80C to 88C in BFV, this 1% drop instantly coz it to stabilize at 60C in the same game with same settings 

Update: So I did the same thing as you did with my Ryzen 5 3600; turns out that 1% is not 1%; My temps fell from 88-92 (Thermal Throttling Basically) to 64°C

BUT my frequency fell down from 4GHz all core (4.2GHz single core) to 3.5GHz all core; that's a significant performance drop; I'm guessing when you change it from 100 to anything lower, it actually limits it more than it should; like it disables boost clocks or something and then applies the 99% to the limited frequency

To simplify my theory: The CPU itself naturally will have a base clock that is functional for everybody; in my case (Ryzen 5 3600) it's 3.6GHz. But it also has Boost clocks and it allows it to go higher than that (like 4GHz in my case). When you edit the power plan and go anything below 100%, it completely disables the BOOST clocks and applies 99% to the 3.6GHz BASE clock; so I get 3.5GHz; if I do 98% it goes down to about 3.4GHz

So you didn't actually go down by 1%, you also disable boost clocks which doesn't allow your CPU to go high as it could be otherwise going. but you won't notice it in a daily usage like browsing the internet or gaming because they never utilize 100% of the CPU anyway

If you do anything CPU intensive and you want fast speeds you shouldn't edit the power plan and leave it at 100%. Because I saw 12% score drop in Cinebench R23; which is significantly slower

So I recenty got myself 4 sticks of ddr 3600 replacing 2 sticks of ddr 3200.

After installing 4 sticks speed was at 3200. I tried to manually put 3600 which made the system go haywire and it reverted back to a 2400.

I then finally used DOCP(something like XMP)to get the RAM running at the advertised speed as per spec. In the long run there wouldn't be any side effects, right? The only issue I presume I will face in the future is during bios upgrades as it will knock it back to 2400.